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Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: ##RaCeR## on April 18, 2001, 02:31:42 PM
I thought it looked amazing, why do you all think it is an old build?

WHATS IT GONNA BE LIKE IN THE FINAL VERSION!!!

Whats missing in the demo? It doesn\'t look 9 months old.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: Majin Prince on April 18, 2001, 03:09:58 PM
what r u talking about? i thought the demo looked amazing too.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: ##RaCeR## on April 18, 2001, 03:33:09 PM
If you dont recall, there were alot of folks here wingeing about how old the build was.

What is missing from the demo?
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: DarkchimP on April 18, 2001, 03:47:40 PM
I only heard good comments about it..... I don\'t know who you were talking to..
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: videoholic on April 18, 2001, 03:54:01 PM
I think Racer needs to put the bong down.  I don\'t remember a single negative comment about it from anyone.  Maybe you are thinking of another board.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: on April 18, 2001, 05:01:58 PM
The demo is quite old.  The cars look sharp and detailed but the backgrounds are a bit low res and aliased.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: Bozco on April 18, 2001, 07:05:30 PM
i heard from a couple people on this forum that the demo sucked, i dont know because i never played it
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: ##RaCeR## on April 18, 2001, 07:20:04 PM
Does the demo contain full scene anti aliassing? Like the final game does?

THe cars look jaggy
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: MeTaL=DeaTh on April 18, 2001, 07:20:51 PM
i wish i could complain,but since US gamers haven\'t got it,i cannot...how wrong is that!? actually why would anyone gripe about a free game demo of one of the most anticipated games coming out on the PS2??!! we had to pay $50 for our MGS2 demo (ok,so some of us wanted ZOE too :D ) and i haven\'t seen barely a complaint with it,but a free demo,ok maybe it cost a little extra for the magazine too...hmmmm...one word for them....Loooosssseerr! :)
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: ##RaCeR## on April 18, 2001, 08:14:27 PM
I love the demo, though the 150 sec limit is a little tight...

I don\'t think the demo contains anti aliasing though...
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: ddaryl on April 18, 2001, 08:17:57 PM
##RaCeR##


500 posts bud are you gonna PM MM for a picture added to you name
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: mclarenman on April 18, 2001, 08:18:41 PM
I got it yesterday abd i love it. That Pagani Zonda C12 is the most beautiful car i have ever seen.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: StAnZo on April 19, 2001, 12:17:33 AM
I Believe that the final build of GT3 doesn\'t use AA, it\'s supposed to use CRC filtering.
Also i thought that the demo Rocked. I can\'t wait much longer for this to reach the UK. Damn
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: EThugg on April 19, 2001, 12:25:43 AM
I said the demo sucked and it did. Barely a step above GT2 graphics wise. Very dissapointing IMO. If the final looks like that, I won\'t be buying it.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: ooseven on April 19, 2001, 12:34:30 AM
I think the Demo is great, in fact my mate still has it better get to back of him :(.

the only bad thing is the time limit 150 seconds is far to short to enjoy it.

oh and EThugg what the hell where you expecting graphic wise if GT3 dissapointed you ?
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: ##RaCeR## on April 19, 2001, 12:45:04 AM
I just hate the jaggies

What is CRC Filtering?
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: EThugg on April 19, 2001, 12:46:51 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven

oh and EThugg what the hell where you expecting graphic wise if GT3 dissapointed you ?


Something more than a semi-upgraded GT2 graphics engine. Jaggies galore. It\'s pitiful. I can see ppl defending the gameplay if that\'s their bag, but the graphics are unacceptable to me. It doesn\'t look any better than RR5. Since it\'s been delayed so many times I hope it looks better upon release, or I\'m not getting it.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: mclarenman on April 19, 2001, 12:54:04 AM
EThugg, how can you say the graphics are barely any better than GT2. Are you sure you have been playing the same GT3 demo as everyone else has? The graphics are simply amazing and its not the final build. No pop up extremely detailed cars just take a look at the rims on the cars.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: EThugg on April 19, 2001, 01:04:52 AM
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Originally posted by mclarenman
EThugg, how can you say the graphics are barely any better than GT2. Are you sure you have been playing the same GT3 demo as everyone else has? The graphics are simply amazing and its not the final build. No pop up extremely detailed cars just take a look at the rims on the cars.


I don\'t care about those small details if it\'s still jaggie city (it is). I hope your right, that it\'s not the final build.

My demo said GT3:A-Spec at the title screen. It had the monkey in the tree. It had the light coming down through the trees (which was the only decent effect that I saw). I imagine that is the same demo.
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Post by: Hawke on April 19, 2001, 01:23:02 AM
Actually, there was some quite horrible pop-up, at least at Laguna Seca. When you come to the final straight, you can see 2 trees popping out of nowhere. There were some other moments of pop-up too, but this was the most noticeable.

I think the game looks gorgeous, jaggies or not (I sure as heck didn\'t pay attention to any).
Title: : )
Post by: Ethan_Hunt on April 19, 2001, 02:43:13 AM
Ethugg put the demo disk in,and read the nice long message that comes up first,and what does it say?That there will be big enchancements in the final build,the backgrounds did look a bit low res,and will be much better,have you seen the movie of the cars in the rain?
Also i am not starting anything Ethugg,but all i wanted to know was,what games have you got that do impress you for the PS2?
Title: APE
Post by: STROKE on April 19, 2001, 03:50:00 AM
I love the Ape in Trial Mountain on the wood
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: neostarsX on April 19, 2001, 05:22:21 AM
Ethugg is blind everyone, ignore him.
Title: : )
Post by: Ethan_Hunt on April 19, 2001, 05:31:03 AM
Do you know what i am going to go and play the demo now,driveing fun!!!!!!!
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: StAnZo on April 19, 2001, 05:38:47 AM
I think i\'ll join ya Ethan. @:0)
Title: : )
Post by: Ethan_Hunt on April 19, 2001, 05:43:02 AM
Hey StAnZo it will be good when we can play online,i carnt wait for that day.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: fastson on April 19, 2001, 09:09:16 AM
EThugg: DAMN!
CS has jaggies on my computer!
I cant play it! Its unacceptable!
My EYES are bleeding! ARGH! And its only 16-bits colours!

See how stupid it looks??
GT3 is the 3rd best looking game.

1. FFX
2. MGS2
3. GT3


GT3 RULEZ!

/FAST
Title: Check please...
Post by: Sygma on April 20, 2001, 12:36:54 PM
WHAT!! GT3, 3rd?? Okay, FFX does look better, but c\'mon, GT3 is almost as blinding beautiful as Square\'s RPG!!! Metal Gear S2 is okay, but somehow I think the best looking games on a console are almost always the racing games, right? And GT3 is the racer among racers!! Please, more justice to the \'ware!!

Oh, and did I mention I also hate Square for rejecting an idea I had for FFX? Well, almost hate them, but still, I sent them a letter, and they only said "Sorry", so I\'m a little resented about FFX...Just wanted to vent that off my head. Damn you accursed conglomerate Square!!(You make nice games, though)
Title: : )
Post by: Ethan_Hunt on April 20, 2001, 12:44:54 PM
Alot of games companies wont use peoples ideas,because some people will then use that agianst them,and probably try a sue them(spell check that).
I heard alittle while ago something happening like that.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: EThugg on April 20, 2001, 09:00:04 PM
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Originally posted by Ethan_Hunt
Ethugg put the demo disk in,and read the nice long message that comes up first,and what does it say?That there will be big enchancements in the final build,the backgrounds did look a bit low res,and will be much better,have you seen the movie of the cars in the rain?
Also i am not starting anything Ethugg,but all i wanted to know was,what games have you got that do impress you for the PS2?


Onimusha(both graphics and gameplay), Timesplitters (for fun when I have only a little time) RR5 (graphics are as good/better than GT# demo, and it was a launch title, gameplay), Shadows of Destiny (gameplay) Bouncer (graphics), Smugglers Run (gameplay) Summoner, Winback, Oni, (all are average in both, but are kinda fun), Klonoa (great in both respects), MGS2 Demo (both are good), DMC demo (great graphics but the action oriented gameplay has me weary now). Theres more that I like, but I seriously dont like the graphics in the GT3 demo.


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Originally posted by neostarsX
Ethugg is blind everyone, ignore him.


No, I\'m just not a mainstream ****sucker whose wowed like a child over a sub-par demo.


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Originally posted by faston
EThugg: DAMN!
CS has jaggies on my computer!
I cant play it! Its unacceptable!
My EYES are bleeding! ARGH! And its only 16-bits colours!

See how stupid it looks??


What you said does look stupid. What I said doesnt.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: RichG on April 21, 2001, 01:12:57 AM
Sorry im going to have to stick up for EThugg, when he gives his opinions he is critical and a lot of the fan boys on this forum who think sun shines out of Sony\'s a**e don\'t like it.

I personally like the GT3 demo but theres been other posts where people have claimed EThugg doesn\'t like any games, so what... he is entitled to his opinion and most of the time he does point things out which the forum fan boys simply try and pretend isn\'t there.

Also I agree with EThugg in some extend, we have all bought an expensive console, all wanting the best in gaming technology and admittinly in my opinion the games so far have been poor with only some good exceptions. Least EThugg is willing to admit that.

Keep up the good unbiased opinions, thats what I say! :D
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Post by: Ethan_Hunt on April 21, 2001, 01:57:12 AM
As i said Ethugg i wasnt have a go at you,i just wanted to know what you thought was a good game,or the type of games you like,but i do agree that the backgrounds didnt look too good,but i think it will have been improved alot.
I spoke to someone at EB today, well the manager,and he said each time he has seen GT3 it has looked better and better,so i guess all we can do is wait and see,but i really dont think we will be dissapointed.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: RichG on April 21, 2001, 02:13:16 AM
Yeah GT3 will rock, well thats pretty obvious cause if you look at the PSW footage it looks better than what was seen in the demo (accept of couse the Rally Levels which I didn\'t like in my opinion). Also the rain level I think only has two cars, I hope that isn\'t because it wouldn\'t run quickly with all cars on screen because the rain level sure does look cool.

In short the graphics in GT3 will be outstanding. I mean look at the PSW footage of the Seattle level where they drive to that stadium type building and then a few corners later they are right next to it with it over towering the cars, it just looks cool.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: neostarsX on April 21, 2001, 05:09:54 AM
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Originally posted by RichGUK
Sorry im going to have to stick up for EThugg, when he gives his opinions he is critical and a lot of the fan boys on this forum who think sun shines out of Sony\'s a**e don\'t like it.

I personally like the GT3 demo but theres been other posts where people have claimed EThugg doesn\'t like any games, so what... he is entitled to his opinion and most of the time he does point things out which the forum fan boys simply try and pretend isn\'t there.

Also I agree with EThugg in some extend, we have all bought an expensive console, all wanting the best in gaming technology and admittinly in my opinion the games so far have been poor with only some good exceptions. Least EThugg is willing to admit that.

Keep up the good unbiased opinions, thats what I say! :D


WTF are u talking about, Ethugg is entitled to his opinion. Well yeah he is, but when he say sh*t like RRV looks the same as GT3 demo, than he most be a blind f*ck. Nothing personal but u are a blind f*ck Ethugg.



RRV doesnt even come close to the GT3 demo, RRV is a jaggies thon and he is no good lighting or reflection on the cars on RRV.
Where in the GT3 demo u get to see all the awesome reflection and lighting, esp the part where u drive under the tree and the light is beaming in, that awesome.

Enuff said, Ethugg if u are not impress with the GT3 demo, u better just sell ur PS2 (i be happy), the final GT3 wont improved that much from the demo, because the demo look awesome already.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: Bozco on April 21, 2001, 06:46:44 AM
your comparing a demo to a completed game, GT3 is going to look great, dont cry ETHUGG
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: RichG on April 21, 2001, 09:41:16 AM
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Originally posted by neostarsX


WTF are u talking about, Ethugg is entitled to his opinion. Well yeah he is, but when he say sh*t like RRV looks the same as GT3 demo, than he most be a blind f*ck. Nothing personal but u are a blind f*ck Ethugg.



Interesting.

4 swear words within 4 lines of text = an average of a swear word per line were you raised on the streets or something ?

Seriously chill! Why are you getting so worked up over someones opinion of a game ? Just because its different to yours ?
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: Evi on April 21, 2001, 09:56:08 AM
The demo was amazing, but is was old. The cars looked awesome, but you can tell that the improvemnets that were made for the final version aren\'t there. The wheels look better in the final one. I particularly didn\'t like the level that you play on in the demo. There really is a vast improvement in the final version compared to the demo. I was a little disappointed...but this game is gonna rock...:)
Title: Thanks EThugg
Post by: w1ngman on April 21, 2001, 07:15:34 PM
To EThugg\'s earlier complaint of GT3: "Since it\'s been delayed so many times I hope it looks better upon release, or I\'m not getting it....  I\'ll thank you now for letting me purchase *your* copy my good man! ;)
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: JC-21 on April 21, 2001, 11:04:11 PM
According to ign they said that it would be the best racer out there once released. At TGS they said it was great nothing wrong with the graphics. From the gameplay movies I saw it looks amazing mabye it was that demo? Cause obviously the movie I seen could not of been taken from that demo the way you describe it.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: EThugg on April 22, 2001, 12:47:08 AM
RichGUK-Thanx.

Ethan_Hunt-I assumed it was going to look better upon release, then everyone started arguing with me cause I wasn\'t dazzled by the demo.

neostarsX- RR5 and the GT3 demo both are \'jaggie thon\'... whatever that means... and a little lighting and reflection tweaking doesn\'t change that. The GT3 demo looks poor. And I\'m not blind.

Bozco- Don\'t worry, my eyes are dry. And if everyones going on about how this is the best looking racer ever, I have to correct their ignorance. Like I do so often with you... :p

w1ngman- Slow down there fella, I\'ll probably get it, sinse, as I\'ve maintained all along, the final version will probably look much better.
Title: Why do ya\'ll hate the GT3 demo?
Post by: RichG on April 22, 2001, 04:01:11 AM
Yeah this game is going to be amazing.

I can\'t wait to play that midnight rain level set in Japan. :)
Title: YES
Post by: STROKE on April 22, 2001, 08:40:41 AM
YEAH, the rain levels are the greatest levels I\'ve ever seen, I hope the framerate will not suck.