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Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bozco on April 25, 2001, 12:46:33 PM
i got it in the mail today, it slows down sometimes during the game but blowing everything up is awesome
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: soundifound on April 25, 2001, 12:53:33 PM
Seeing as you live in Ohio, as do I and you got it today and I didn\'t it MUST COME TOMORROW!!
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: EThugg on April 25, 2001, 02:31:48 PM
Blowing up everything? The best part should be blowing up the people. And then nothing. They just lay there. I was dissapointed.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: ajoh432 on April 25, 2001, 02:37:29 PM
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Originally posted by EThugg
Blowing up everything? The best part should be blowing up the people. And then nothing. They just lay there. I was dissapointed.
is this a joke? :laughing: if it is it\'s very funny :laughing:
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: EThugg on April 25, 2001, 02:47:33 PM
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Originally posted by ajoh432
is this a joke? :laughing: if it is it\'s very funny :laughing:


Why do you think thats a joke? I want limbs flying!
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Animal Mother on April 25, 2001, 03:06:45 PM
God damn you Joe Lieberman!!! One time he had a taped video game, and he was showing it to a few senators and he was like "uhhh uhhh huhu It was so grusome I had to turn away ugugugu" (you know how he talks) But they couldn\'t get the VCR working
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Kimahri on April 25, 2001, 03:31:46 PM
stop talking about it, i remeber the day that post was posted about the demo........... lousy us residents only............. stupid canada
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: ddaryl on April 25, 2001, 03:48:57 PM
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Originally posted by EThugg
Blowing up everything? The best part should be blowing up the people. And then nothing. They just lay there. I was dissapointed.



You need help

Blowing up people is yeaterday. GeoMod is today

I never can understand you Ethugg
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Seraphim Pride on April 25, 2001, 04:22:33 PM
I want the demo it hasn\'t come yet:(  I want to blow stuff up too.  I just hope the controls aren\'t like TimeSplitters because that game has horrible controls IMO
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bozco on April 25, 2001, 04:39:08 PM
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Originally posted by KrillinX
I want the demo it hasn\'t come yet:(  I want to blow stuff up too.  I just hope the controls aren\'t like TimeSplitters because that game has horrible controls IMO


for one thing they are like the timesplitters control and im happy because timesplitters control is awesome its perfected, how can you not like it i like it more than the bond game for N64\'s controls
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Terry Bogard on April 25, 2001, 04:42:39 PM
Seeing as i have the demo sitting in my room.


The game is just great, and the controls are a ***** to get used to at first. I love the Geomod things, and i am going to pre order this one real soon.


Graphics are also GREAT:D

To much slowdown in it though.:(
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: ddaryl on April 25, 2001, 04:45:07 PM
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Originally posted by DaRkGaMeR


To much slowdown in it though.:(



I won\'t pre-order this game because of this

If its not fixed in the final version I\'m done with Volition and there PC port games

Obviously Volition is using solid chunks of there PC code in there PS2 games and there PS2 games will always suffer because of this
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Seraphim Pride on April 25, 2001, 06:52:46 PM
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Originally posted by Bozco


for one thing they are like the timesplitters control and im happy because timesplitters control is awesome its perfected, how can you not like it i like it more than the bond game for N64\'s controls


Even though I love the Dual Shock I have to say that N64 had one of the best if not the best controler for 3d games.  expecially first person shoots.  I mean what other controller could you play goldeneye with one had while eating a slice of pizza in the other.   I just didn\'t like how Time Splitters didn\'t allow you a custom  set up for controls.  Well when the demo comes I\'ll try to make the best of it:(
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: IronFist on April 25, 2001, 07:17:46 PM
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Originally posted by KrillinX
Even though I love the Dual Shock I have to say that N64 had one of the best if not the best controler for 3d games.  expecially first person shoots.  I mean what other controller could you play goldeneye with one had while eating a slice of pizza in the other.   I just didn\'t like how Time Splitters didn\'t allow you a custom  set up for controls.  Well when the demo comes I\'ll try to make the best of it:(

Timesplitters does let you change your controls.  Just pause the game and go over to preferences.  I\'ve always hated the N64 controller because of how crappy the analog was (IMO :)).  I love the PS2 controller setup.  It\'s perfect for FPS games (it might take some time to get used to it, especially if you are used to using the N64 controller, but it\'s great once you\'re used to it)

And I think they could have done better than this on Red Faction.  Like ddaryl said, they were not using the PS2 how it was meant to be used.  They were just porting it from the PC.  Big mistake.  Slowdown on the PS2 (or any next gen console for that matter) is a sign that the developers don\'t know what they\'re doing.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on April 25, 2001, 07:22:03 PM
Hmm, haven\'t gotten mine yet...
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: unknown on April 25, 2001, 07:36:00 PM
i got the demo today, well i got 2 demo\'s today :) and i played it, first of all i must say it is very short demo,but the geo mod kicks ass, and the controls are hard to get sed 2, but work smooth after a few minutes, i wish people would blow up as well, but not in this game, i dont mind, you get to drive the sub vehicle, its pretty sweet, im still trying to find the freaking rocket launch, anyomne find it yet, im pretty sure you gotta blow something up to find it

and ddaryl, i will buy this game the day it comes out, i hope they take care of the slowdown,a nd they should, i mean if ther is slowodown, this game will flop.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Sublimesjg on April 25, 2001, 07:42:12 PM
well i hope i get my demo but i think i registered pretty late though - oh well

i hope they fix the slowdown or there is no way i will buy it - if there is slowdown i oneplayer mode - iamgine four player mode
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Darth Joyda on April 25, 2001, 08:28:22 PM
You lucky people... I just wonder that if just maybe the demo would come with the OP2M next month?

I just want to try that geo-mod feature... I REALLY DO... :)
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: THE EYE on April 25, 2001, 08:37:44 PM
Those are my fears: The release is so near and I don´t think, that they will able to fix those slowdowns in time...
IF they are really so bad, like ppl say, then it´s a shame ! Does anybody know if the real think will suffer from slowdowns ??!
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: 182Ways on April 25, 2001, 08:45:31 PM
The demos that all of you are receiving:  Aren\'t they early builds from quite a while back?  If that\'s the case, then I see no reason why Volition wouldn\'t have time to smooth out the framerate for the upcoming release of the final game.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: ddaryl on April 25, 2001, 08:46:43 PM
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Originally posted by THE EYE
Does anybody know if the real think will suffer from slowdowns ??!



The real think ???


Its to hard to tel, but I\'m already stirring things up at the Red Faction BBS. There\'s afew guys there trying to tell me that SLow down is to be expected but not a game playing at 30FPS on a PS2.


This is why I won\'t buy it on day 1. I gave Volition the benefit of the doubt on the Summoner but c\'mon twice no way.

Time to make a statement, Slowdown is annoying. I can live with it, but with games like GT3 MGS2, ZOE, Onimusha and others running smoothly at 60FPS why should I
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: MeTaL=DeaTh on April 25, 2001, 10:05:58 PM
i agree with most every comment of this game (demo),it is very cool but has some questionable things about it too. i\'m glad that every (free) copy i ordered showed up (for myself / friends) today,it was a nice break in the day to recieve it. i\'ll find out what my friends have to say about it tomorrow. i hope more companies release free demos of new games,i like this type of trend :)
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: THE EYE on April 25, 2001, 11:07:53 PM
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Originally posted by ddaryl



The real think ???


 


UPS... Sorry, it was early in the morning...  :D     "THING" was the word...

Yes ddaryl, I´ve read this Topic at this "RF Forum" also !!!
They are idiots... I wanted to post a comment, but then I decided not to waste time on them !

Your statement was right !!!
If they only can program PC Games, then they should stop messup things on the PS2...
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Byatch on April 26, 2001, 04:05:48 AM
There is no excuse for lazy-ass programming. Just as ddaryl said, when you have games like MGS2, GT3, ZOE etc showing off what the PS2 can produce in terms of visuals, there should be very little reason a second-gen game produced by a developer with one PS2 game under their belt to be running this choppy.

It`s not like the machine can`t handle the game, sloppy programming is the worst sin a developer can commit. Porting code wholesale from the PC version is typical of lazy, overpaid PC programmers. Volition better stop using YABASIC and learn how to code in asm if they want this game running any better.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: unknown on April 26, 2001, 04:42:55 AM
man you guys talk about this game like the frame rate is instant death...

when i played the demo i noticed tha there was slowdown, but not the god forsaken hell spawn slowdown you guys are talk about, and im sure they improved the slowdown if not all at least a little, and the multi player, i mean if they leave the game with s/d then imagine how multi player will run, like UT? all framey well i think they have fixed the problem, when they added this feature, its been 6 weeks since i ordered the demo, so they had more than 6 weeks, about 8 or more, to fix this problem, i think you guys expectations are so high now that you have seen MGS2 in action, i can tell you no game will meet those expectations this year like MGS2 did, we got more than we expected, so i think every ones expectations are reallly high for up coming games now, im my opinion, so it has a little slowdown, so what!? im getting this game one day 1 and everyone that didnt cause of the possible slowdown will recieve a review on it from me, so you can find out if it still does or doesnt :)
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bozco on April 26, 2001, 05:05:58 AM
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Originally posted by KrillinX


Even though I love the Dual Shock I have to say that N64 had one of the best if not the best controler for 3d games.  expecially first person shoots.  I mean what other controller could you play goldeneye with one had while eating a slice of pizza in the other.   I just didn\'t like how Time Splitters didn\'t allow you a custom  set up for controls.  Well when the demo comes I\'ll try to make the best of it:(


actually you can custom setup the controls in timesplitters
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: RichG on April 26, 2001, 09:11:53 AM
Some interesting points raised.

My first comment is, isn\'t this the demo that we all know has slowdown already ? And thus theres no need to talk about it ? I mean isn\'t this the preview code IGN got there hands on months ago and commented on the slowdown ?

Secondly I completely agree that slowdown is unaccepatable but i\'ve always preeched that.

Also I do think our expectations are high but without due cause. We have all bought the hype even though some of us wouldn\'t want to admit it, thats why we got the console quickly rather than waited, but after seeing some of the stuff out so far theres no need for dodgee slow down titles.

Im still keeping my fingers crossed but I can see the final release being a flop, although I hope it doesn\'t cause this game could be really good.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: JerginsSoft on April 26, 2001, 12:56:23 PM
Just received mine as well.

Slowdown is not too bad.  It should be better, yes, but it isn\'t all that bad.  It IS just a demo remember.

I am eagerly awaiting this game, and I am glad to see it coming along very well.  It was a little too dark for my tastes, but, yeah... I\'m gonna get it when it comes out.

Again, with the slowdown, several reviewers have talked to THQ about it and they have stated that they will address the issue.

Fear not, this game will be good when it comes out.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bozco on April 26, 2001, 01:19:43 PM
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Originally posted by RichGUK
Some interesting points raised.

My first comment is, isn\'t this the demo that we all know has slowdown already ? And thus theres no need to talk about it ? I mean isn\'t this the preview code IGN got there hands on months ago and commented on the slowdown ?

Secondly I completely agree that slowdown is unaccepatable but i\'ve always preeched that.

Also I do think our expectations are high but without due cause. We have all bought the hype even though some of us wouldn\'t want to admit it, thats why we got the console quickly rather than waited, but after seeing some of the stuff out so far theres no need for dodgee slow down titles.

Im still keeping my fingers crossed but I can see the final release being a flop, although I hope it doesn\'t cause this game could be really good.


Some people like a second point of view and i was telling all of us americans that i got mine and they should get theres soon,the game has barely any slowdown so dont cry deal with it a game isnt ruined cause of it
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Claypool 2001 on April 26, 2001, 02:34:30 PM
yeah, the slowdown in minimal, only like in big open spaces and when theres alot of explosions, doesnt ruin the game at all, i dont know what these people are smoking. I love it, i\'m buying it the second it comes out, Good Game!!!
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bozco on April 26, 2001, 02:37:27 PM
I already preordered it
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Majin Prince on April 26, 2001, 02:58:23 PM
i just got the demo in today. i love it. :D i love blowing up walls and stuff, i never got to do that before.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: RichG on April 26, 2001, 03:05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Bozco


Some people like a second point of view and i was telling all of us americans that i got mine and they should get theres soon,the game has barely any slowdown so dont cry deal with it a game isnt ruined cause of it


:crying: of course it is. Games with slowdown are crap. ;)
Title: to the people who finished the demo....
Post by: samanvahedi on April 26, 2001, 04:21:07 PM
what code did you get at the end? i got 18181

i just wanna know if the game generates the code or it\'s just in the game......
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: ddaryl on April 26, 2001, 04:23:37 PM
I got the same code

I cant find where to input it online though
Title: thought so
Post by: samanvahedi on April 26, 2001, 04:29:10 PM
yeah... its crap...

oh and about that slowing down thing... its not so bad... it would be better if there was no slowing own but the game is pretty good.... i, like everybody else, love blowing stuff up....

oh and one more thing.... does that big fish in the water ever die? i hit it like 10 times with a torpedo and nothing happened... hmm... oh well.... good demo anyways...
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Claypool 2001 on April 26, 2001, 04:53:34 PM
the big fish takes three direct torpedos!!
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bozco on April 27, 2001, 05:27:46 AM
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Originally posted by RichGUK


:crying: of course it is. Games with slowdown are crap. ;)


NO, a game isnt ruined because of a little slow down, what are you thinking
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: EThugg on April 27, 2001, 05:33:15 AM
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Originally posted by Bozco


NO, a game isnt ruined because of a little slow down, what are you thinking


A \'game\' might not be ruined by it, but the experience is marred.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: unknown on April 27, 2001, 06:02:18 AM
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Originally posted by ddaryl
I got the same code

I cant find where to input it online though


ok... i also got the same code 18181, thats not good, maybe hey havent started the contest? or maybe its just a sham
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: kopking on April 27, 2001, 08:55:34 AM
you guys are lucky, i wish i could moan about the slowdown, etc. but i cant, just be glad you can get a demo. Its a old demo, the slowdown will be gone by the time it comes out. come on, think positively
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: RichG on April 27, 2001, 09:04:38 AM
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Originally posted by Bozco


NO, a game isnt ruined because of a little slow down, what are you thinking


Haha.

Take a look at my emoticons you will then relise that I was prehaps being sarcastic or just trying to wind up slowdown fan boys. ;)

- Nah seriously for a second, im really againest slowdown, it in my opinion ruins a game, I couldn\'t get into the swing of things with SSX for the constant slowdown everytime you went around a corner.

That is just me though. Its just my opinion which im not saying is correct, im just saying that its me. :)
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Ratlad on April 27, 2001, 04:10:47 PM
Well, it\'s good to hear comments on this game since I\'ve been waiting for it to come out. Unfortunately, my copy of the demo still hasn\'t shown up. Hopefully I will get it soon. I would really like to jusge for myself if the slowdown is really that bad.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: ddaryl on April 27, 2001, 04:15:38 PM
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Originally posted by RichGUK



- Nah seriously for a second, im really againest slowdown, it in my opinion ruins a game, I couldn\'t get into the swing of things with SSX for the constant slowdown everytime you went around a corner.

That is just me though. Its just my opinion which im not saying is correct, im just saying that its me. :)



SSX never bothered me cause it never slowed down under 50FPS for me

I hear some people complain but SSX plays very smooth


Red Faction starts off at 30FPS so when it slows down we\'re  down to 15-20 FPS and thats chop chop chop
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: KillaX on April 27, 2001, 05:22:26 PM
I still havent got mine....like I would have time to play it with all the OT I am getting this week...atleast I\'ll have more $$$$ to buy PS2 games and maybe a new car.



Your friendly neighborhood ScottyJ
Title: Red Faction Demo
Post by: ChuckDees on April 27, 2001, 07:19:22 PM
I live in Dayton OH and still nothing.  I guess there is a snowball\'s chance in hell it could show up on tomorrow (Saturday) but I am not crossing my fingers.
Title: Re: Red Faction Demo
Post by: Bozco on April 28, 2001, 06:59:03 PM
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Originally posted by ChuckDees
I live in Dayton OH and still nothing.  I guess there is a snowball\'s chance in hell it could show up on tomorrow (Saturday) but I am not crossing my fingers.


ouch i live in ohio and i got it a couple of days ago
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: RichG on April 29, 2001, 01:03:36 AM
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Originally posted by ddaryl



SSX never bothered me cause it never slowed down under 50FPS for me

I hear some people complain but SSX plays very smooth


Red Faction starts off at 30FPS so when it slows down we\'re  down to 15-20 FPS and thats chop chop chop


Im glad to hear that. In the UK however we have PAL, i.e slower games and you could literally see the screen go choppy when going round corners. Also the intro to the tracks was very choppy. It wasn\'t too bad but not for me.

I know what you mean about Red Faction. Lets hope it is locked at 30 FPS.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bombastic on April 29, 2001, 10:36:55 AM
How long did it take you guys to get it? I have been waiting for a while. I signed up about one or two months ago. Can\'t remember. All I can do is sit and wait...
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bombastic on April 29, 2001, 10:44:47 AM
What does living in Ohio have anything to do with this? Just asking. I still haven\'t got my demo!!
Title: Well, two people here signed up for the demo. Both live in the same city.
Post by: Simchoy on April 29, 2001, 12:36:24 PM
Yet only one recieved his so far. So the shipping of these demoes do not appear to be by city. My guess is, its by the time you signed up for it. But I\'m not sure of the latter either.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: KillaX on April 29, 2001, 01:41:29 PM
I still havent got mine.....
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: METALGEAR007 on April 29, 2001, 02:35:28 PM
how long is this demo guys
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Claypool 2001 on April 29, 2001, 02:37:41 PM
about 45-1 Hour, if you like to look around and experiment with things. You could run through it in about 15-20 mins if you didnt do anything but kill.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: KillaX on May 03, 2001, 02:16:22 PM
I finally got it today! havent played it yet.....I will have a review later tonight or tomorrow....I hope


Your Friendly Neighborhood ScottyJ
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: ddaryl on May 03, 2001, 02:52:44 PM
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Originally posted by METALGEAR007
how long is this demo guys



more like 15 - 25 minutes

its very short
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: KillaX on May 03, 2001, 04:20:58 PM
I got into the sub and couldnt manuver to fight back and got destroyed! overall so far a cool game.....blasting things is cool!
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bozco on May 03, 2001, 04:25:10 PM
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Originally posted by Bombastic
What does living in Ohio have anything to do with this? Just asking. I still haven\'t got my demo!!


I was talking to another ohioan who hadnt got his yet
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: KillaX on May 03, 2001, 06:18:04 PM
I just got mine today and I am from Ohio



Your friendly Neighborhood ScottyJ
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: w1ngman on May 03, 2001, 06:41:47 PM
Yeah I got that demo two days ago.  Played around with it some.  Like others, couldn\'t manuver the sub easy enough to keep from getting blasted.  Very cool effect/ability in being able to "blast around" problematic areas.  

However, I feel I must ask (and someone is welcome to say "its altogether different") how come if Saddam can use PS2s for talemetry ballistics we can\'t have a 2nd gen FPS on the PS2 that rivals Counter-Strike.  The AI isn\'t so particularly bad (well, except for the droans that run right up to your kneecaps to squat & shoot at you...WTF is that all about??!!), but I have a problem with the mottled scenery.  I mean, where you first start out???...that does not look (to me) much better than the environments in PSX\'s game ONE (if anyone remembers that game).  Sorry, but the graphics on this machine can flat out SCREAM...so THQ I think you missed the boat on that one a bit.  Controller scheme is kinda "eh".  I mean, even *I* like a joystick over a mouse (and I know how much FPS purists tout mouse siting)...but the looking with this game\'s analog stick is like discombobulated molassas.  I\'ll pass for something else more worthy of my $50 beans...
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: ChuckDees on May 04, 2001, 12:27:20 PM
All you damn Ohioians that have your copy.  I signed up for mine the day it was posted and still nothing.  I live in Dayton OH, which is a fairly big city in the state.  I just don\'t get why I don\'t have my copy yet.
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Faithdies on May 04, 2001, 12:31:59 PM
I wish people would stop bustin on the graphics.
Personally, I think the game is rockin.
I got it in and played it, and right now its installed on the Circuit City demo unit at my work.
I have gotten quite a few people to look into buying it.
I love how you can blow anything up.
I made a passage way that was like 30 feet deep before.
It was awesome.
Title: Sounds cool...
Post by: Simchoy on May 04, 2001, 12:40:40 PM
But I\'m still waiting for my copy. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...I have a feeling that by the time I get the demo, the game will be out! :(
Title: Re: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bozco on May 04, 2001, 01:30:06 PM
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Originally posted by ChuckDees
All you damn Ohioians that have your copy.  I signed up for mine the day it was posted and still nothing.  I live in Dayton OH, which is a fairly big city in the state.  I just don\'t get why I don\'t have my copy yet.


I think i got mine before anyone else on the forum
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: KillaX on May 04, 2001, 02:24:18 PM
Might be when you e-mailed them to get it or when they made enough to get one to you.


Your friendly neighborhood ScottyJ
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: Bozco on May 04, 2001, 05:39:49 PM
soon enough this game will be out i already reserved it
Title: Red Faction demo
Post by: MBigD011 on May 04, 2001, 10:31:36 PM
where is my copy damn it !!!