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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: ddaryl on April 25, 2001, 04:36:49 PM
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Who\'s a fan of who here
I\'m orignally from Buffalo NY so the Sabres are my team
anyone else here into hockey
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Senators fan here, living in Toronto. Yes, I am in hell.
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Im a Detroit Red Wings fan (dont laugh), but I live in Erie, PA
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I was going to ask this in the other thread but since this is the official hockey thread;
Question for Pittsburgh fans (or anyone else); where do you think Jagr will be traded in the off-season, and for whom. Or do you think he\'ll be traded at all?
He thinks he\'s going to go because they have to resign Straka, Lang and Kovalev to new deals, and it makes sense to have those three players on your team (who make, IMO, the best second line in the NHL), rather than one Jagr. I think he\'ll go to the Rangers for Manny Malhotra, Tomas Kloucek, draft picks and cash - that\'s my call, unless the Rangers make a move for Yashin, then I have no idea where Jaromir will end up.
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Jagr isn\'t going anywhere, he\'s a franchise player and Mario\'s friend. Look for Straka and/or Lang to go instead. I sure hope they keep Kovalev, he\'s the best player on their team! They also need some defense... something always lacking in Pburg hockey besides goaltending.
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Im ashamed to say it but im a blackhawks fan, mainly because my grandpa played for them. But i have been a fan of them since i became a fan of hockey so i thought why change. they will win one of these years.
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Originally posted by ps2gamer_59
Im ashamed to say it but im a blackhawks fan, mainly because my grandpa played for them. But i have been a fan of them since i became a fan of hockey so i thought why change. they will win one of these years.
Your a true blue fan then
Sticking with your team even though they traded Dumont and Gilmour and paid 1/2 of Gilmours Salay to the Sabres for a player they traded a few months later
Boy did we stick it to Chicago big time on that trade
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Detroit wants Joe Sakic and John Laclair, Fedarov is most likely leaving becase he sucks now that he has his tennis player girlfriend
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Detroit needs a new coach not new players.
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I\'m a Blackhawks fan. It is a tough time for us right now but I\'m sure Mike Smith will lead us to glory once again. YEAH RIGHT!
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Dolbytone,
Detroit doesn\'t need a new coach, Scotty Bowman is the winningest coach in NHL history, no one has more Stanley Cup wins than Scotty.
As for Pitsburgh, I think it would be really silly of them to keep Jagr, while letting Straka and/or Lang go, or even Kovalev go. For the price of keeping Jagr they could instead resign and improve the contracts of that one line which provides more goals and assists than Jagr himself. They also have to resign Kasparitis.
The Pens\' franchise player is now their owner. :)
ddaryl,
that wasn\'t Buffalo\'s best trade with Chigago, no that would be Hasek for Stephane Beauregard and a fourth rounder ROFL LMAO!!!! (Even if that 4th rounder turned out to be Eric Daze)
ps2gamer_59,
Don\'t be ashamed, that\'s what being a true fan is all about - staying true to your team through the bad times will make the good times so much more sweeter. At least you can still laugh at Chris \'I\'m leaving to win a Cup\' Chelios.
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I\'m a Senators fan. Stupid lucky Toronto! ARGH!! Don\'t get me started...
I\'m rooting (however grudgingly) for Toronto though for the rest of the playoffs (even though I don\'t think they have a chance... though I thought that in round one), cause they\'re the last Canadian team, and cause if they win the cup, it\'s kind of vindication for the Sens.
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Originally posted by Lavan
ddaryl,
that wasn\'t Buffalo\'s best trade with Chigago, no that would be Hasek for Stephane Beauregard and a fourth rounder ROFL LMAO!!!! (Even if that 4th rounder turned out to be Eric Daze)
God I love the Blackhawks
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Lavan, I know Scotty\'s record and I\'m just going to have to disagree with you. Based on the team\'s performance in the playoffs for the past couple years I think Bowman has reached a point where he needs to reinvent himself in order to win again. He certainly has the team to do it with right now, so why do they choke in the playoffs? Really, since he\'s taken over (since he left Pburg right?) they\'ve only won 1 cup (unless I\'m not remembering correctly) and have had arguably a dominant team in the league the entire time. He\'s been knocked out of the playoffs with this team by San Jose, whom at the time had a much weaker team than they do now, and by the Kings this year... two playoff series\' in which Detroit should have won easily.
We\'ll just have to see how the Pburg thing pans out, but I agree that they need to keep Kovalev and Kasparitis. I just don\'t think they\'ll give up Jagr, Mario needs his help.
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Your a true blue fan then
Sticking with your team even though they traded Dumont and Gilmour and paid 1/2 of Gilmours Salay to the Sabres for a player they traded a few months later
Boy did we stick it to Chicago big time on that trade
yes truly a bad desicion but what the hell! when we traded belfour he was doing horrible! all of a sudden he starts to do awesome on dallas then we trade gilmour and he starts to pick it up. And by far a horrible trade roenick to winipeg/phoenix for Zhamnov. sure he\'s good but not as good as Roenick.
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ddaryl,
that wasn\'t Buffalo\'s best trade with Chigago, no that would be Hasek for Stephane Beauregard and a fourth rounder ROFL LMAO!!!! (Even if that 4th rounder turned out to be Eric Daze)
ps2gamer_59,
Don\'t be ashamed, that\'s what being a true fan is all about - staying true to your team through the bad times will make the good times so much more sweeter. At least you can still laugh at Chris \'I\'m leaving to win a Cup\' Chelios.
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**** i forgot about that one ( how could i) Chicago sure has been generous to the Sabres. Yes eric Daze is good but he is no where near the Vallue of having a good golie( Hasek at that!!)
Hehe it does feel good to laugh at Chelios because of his loss but he was my favourite player so i\'ll go easy on him.
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Dolbytone,
I fully agree with you on Kovalev - he\'s the man.
As for the Red Wings, did they win two cups back to back? I can\'t remember.
Anyway, I think the Red Wing\'s biggest problem is the team - too old, not enough depth, and the fact that their aging defensive corps cannot hide the fact that Chris Osgood is, and always will be, mediocre at best.
They were missing two of their three best players in Yzerman and Shanahan (the third being Lidstrom), and they flopped against LA. Fedorov is a flake - he\'s so inconsistent, and beyond Stevie Y and Shanny who else do they have? Chelios is an old man, so\'s Larry Murphy, and in terms of scoring they have such mediocre players - Lapointe, Holmstrom, Draper, Kozlov - that\'s not premier depth.
Look at Colorado or Dallas, remove Forsberg and Sakic from the Avs and you still have Dury, Hedjuk, Borque, Blake, Tanguay etc. Same thing if you remove two of the top players from any of the teams left in the playoffs (except for Toronto) and you\'d still have a great team.
Perhaps Scotty should shoulder some of the blame they didn\'t put up more of a fight in the last two games of the series against LA, but with Shanahan and Yzerman out this RedWings team doesn\'t have much left in the tank. Even with those two fit, they\'d still be crushed by Dallas, Colorado and perhaps even St. Louis (who have great depth, but like Detroit, no premier goaltender).
Just my opinion though. :) I think they\'ll splash the cash this summer on some free-agents.
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Originally posted by Dolbytone
Detroit needs a new coach not new players.
I disagree, I think scotty is a fine coach. Detroit as a team is just so old and slow sometimes in the playoffs experience isn\'t all u need speed is a big factor.
Lots of people thought that dallas would sweep the oilers but because of Dallas\' average age of almost 30 the oilers speed made them have to work for it ( all of the games were decided by one goal)
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Maybe they did win two in a row... yup, in \'97 and \'98. Scotty\'s won 8 Stanley Cups, 5 with the Montreal Canadiens, 1 with the Pens and 2 with the Wings. Also, he\'s lost in the finals 4 times, once with the Wings (\'95)and 3 times with St. Louis (\'68-\'70) making his total trips to the big show a whopping 12. 14 seems to be the most any coach has gone, a title held by **** Irvin who went SEVEN times with the Habs (3 wins) and six times with the Leafs (0 wins).
There\'s another coach with 8 cups. Hector Blake, who won all of his cups with Montreal including a five year run from \'56 to \'60, went to the show a total of 9 times (88.89% win ratio!). I\'d say this guy is the winningest coach in Stanley Cup playoff history, though I believe Bowman has the most wins total since he\'s gone more times.
Anyway, Bowman\'s been coaching since at least the late \'60s and I think it\'s time for his old ass to retire! We\'ll see what he does. I\'ll bet he either does retire, or finds another team to coach. Either way, I think the Wings will be better off without him.
Also, you mentioned Fedorov being a spotty player... did you notice that all of the players like him that were drafted around the same time, all excellent players are spotty as well? Selanne and Bure come to mind.