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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: MeTaL=DeaTh on May 02, 2001, 06:50:29 PM
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Xbox hardware finalised
In an article on Xbox.com, Jeff Henshaw, executive producer of Xbox development kits, has announced that Xbox hardware is now complete and heading into the hands of eager game-makers
At last month’s Gamestock in Seattle, Xbox was on show in a still incomplete form, with the final version of the nVidia graphics chip waiting to arrive. It would now seem, however, that all obstacles have been overcome, and the final hardware is ready and waiting for E3. Jeff Henshaw explains his relief at reaching the goal:
“For some time, we\'ve been promising to get the first hardware into developers\' hands before the Electronics Entertainment Expo (E3) in May. Making sure that happens has been our collective purpose in life ever since. It has meant having Xbox engineers work around the clock on pre-production units, bringing up software, testing hardware, and flying constantly between Redmond and our development partners\' sites. It was rough going for a while, but light at the end of the tunnel appeared.”
This coupled with news of an exclusive deal on The Matrix today paints a very different picture of the way Xbox will be percieved at E3. We\'ll have full updates from the showfloor.
Johnny Minkley
Wednesday, 02 May 2001
guess we won\'t have to hear / read anymore excuses from now on,if a pic shown on this forum isn\'t up to snuff i sure don\'t want to hear "well,x-box hardware is only 50 % complete" crap again! :laughing: :bounce:
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Welp Ya figure it will take a few months to really optomize code to take full advantage of the new found power
I\'m excited, if XBox blows me away graphically I\'ll excercise my pre-order for sure
Hopefully there will be a taste at E3
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ya\' i\'m sure there will be some sweet game pics (over time for sure,just like all consoles),but i was taking a light-hearted approach (stabbing if i may) about the whole thing...no doubt E3 will show some good stuff,but i\'m not jumping on no friggin band wagon (ahem like some are doing way before things are even finalized) because it has a stamp saying it\'s 3 times the power..hehe..but now if a game looks like it sux,there is no more excuses,it sux!! ok,maybe it just isn\'t as good as should be (for the "be kind to X-box fans because they could erupt in tears" people in this forum :D ) lol
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First off don\'t expect the dev to have enough time to take advantage of the new hardware for E3. Second it will be months before the developers really begin to show what the NV2A is all about.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
First off don\'t expect the dev to have enough time to take advantage of the new hardware for E3. Second it will be months before the developers really begin to show what the NV2A is all about.
Wow there\'s an echo
I believe I sad the same thing
it don\'t matter though, Until XBox is firing on all cylinders people are gonna nit pick
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
It will be months before the developers really begin to show what the NV2A is all about.
Odd. I thought the Xbox made developing easy... my bad I guess.
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For some time, we\'ve been promising to get the first hardware into developers\' hands before the Electronics Entertainment Expo (E3) in May.
Funny how this article said first hardware into developers hands I wonder what is meant by that?
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Odd. I thought the Xbox made developing easy... my bad I guess.
Odd i thought you actually had a brain, i\'m not even going to bother to try explain this one to you, cause i know i\'ll just be waisting my time. Maybe Dr Yassam, Ethugg, or someone else will take the time to explain this to you.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Odd i thought you actually had a brain, i\'m not even going to bother to try explain this one to you, cause i know i\'ll just be waisting my time. Maybe Dr Yassam, Ethugg, or someone else will take the time to explain this to you.
Hmmm.. seems kinda harsh to me.. unless you think I was being sarcastic. I was under the impression, however, that the xbox\'s \'close to PC\' architecture made designing for it much easier than most consoles.
Newho, you really should avoid fanboyism. I have stated that I\'m a PS2 owner for the simple reason that it was out first. Had the box and PS2 come out at the same time, and the box been better, well, I\'m not a sony fanboy (though I do think they\'re a better company than microsoft), so I would have gone with the better console.
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though I do think they\'re a better company than microsoft
Your kidding me right, SONY this generation didn\'t give two SHlT\'s about us gamers, ONLY our money. (don\'t get me wrong MS, and Nintendo want our money as well)
Just look at the psx2
-2 controller ports
-no HD built in
-No ethernet buitl in
-same S***ty controller(and don\'t give this **** about how the psx controller is so good it didn\'t need to get changed)
-They made it a BlTCH to program for
-it\'s GS is nothing impressive, SONY could have done alot better(although some might argue, only time will tell
-it\'s sound processor is utter crap compared to XBOX\'s
-No hardware AA
etc.....
MS has put 10 times more effort into making the ultimate game console, as SONY it seems had gotten lazy.
Sony at this point in time is just like Sega when they made the saturn, in the sense that they got C0cky, thinking that they were the best, and that they owned the console market, as SEGA thought with the saturn. You can ***** about GT3, MGS2 and so forth all you want but XBOX will be a better console with better games. The HD alone will take gaming to a whole new level
You say your not a fanboy, that you just bought PSX2 cause it came out first( you should of bought a DC) well i\'m not a MS fanboy, I owned the orginal PSX, cause it was a good console(as for PSX2 which is another story)
Now comes this generation and i see XBOX where psx was in the beginning. I see an amazing console, a Company that has put everything they got into this machine to win the gamers over, therefore I choose the XBOX, cause this time round MS is the better company, not SONY. Now i\'m sure those arrogant assholes over at sony have learned a lesson from the psx2, and when PSX3 comes out, It may very well be the SHlT, and maybe MS get\'s C0cky like sony, and gives us a half ass console XBOX2. WHO knows.
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Originally posted by FatalXception
Odd. I thought the Xbox made developing easy... my bad I guess.
It is. But optimizing code, let alone writing it, always takes time. Xbox can\'t do wonders, it can only aid developers with an easy-to-program backbone.
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Actually, I was refering to sony as an overall company. In all my dealings with MS products I\'ve been dissapointed.. I absolutely hate their customer support.
I signed up for their beta of IE6 (big mistake), since I generally sign up for betas and try to help out. The first thing it did was totally %#!@ up my address book, so I lost about 100 email addresses. I reported it, got a reply back 2 weeks later stating that they had known about this bug BEFORE release! Had they warned me, I woulda backed-up!
With sony, however, they have always treated me well. I returned a 300 dollar set of headphones over 2.5 months after Xmas ("policy" says 30 days), and all it took was 30 seconds with the manager to get a full MONEY refund (I ended up spending 180 right away in the store). When I didn\'t get my demo disk, I talked online to a sony rep, and though she said she couldn\'t do anything, she took my personal info - I got it less than a week later...
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Let me tell you something about SONY. Here is what they make good.
-Camcorders
-Portable players [minidisc, discman, walkman]
-headphones are nothing speacial, considering alot of them are over priced, go with sennheiser or Grado. But sony makes good cheap headphones like the street style, or ear buds. Also there MDR700dJ phones are priced fairly.
-TV\'s are good, but not the best. Panasonic TAU is alot better than the WEGA, and when it comes to HDTV sony is nothing special.
-They make AWESOME PC MONITORS
On a side note, when is comes to AUDIO like receivers, cd players, DVD players, speakers, blank cd\'s etc... they are piss ****ty. Have you ever heard a sony reciever, they sound like ****. There home audio is garabage. This is what sony\'s does with there receivers and other not so good products. They design them very well, cause they know the average consumer dosen\'t know F**K all about electronics, and are always won over by looks
Don\'t get me wrong SONY does make a few good products here and there, like the ones i listed above, but as an overall company for consumer products they are NOTHING SPECIAL.
As for MS windows, and the pereprials, i couldn\'t care less. Alothough MS does make a good flight simulator joystick, with forcefeed back
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Sony is really losing quality controll. Have you guys bought anything from them lately?
I bought headphones and there was a short in them (100 dollar headphones), home CD 5 disk changer, had to take back once, second time had to take back again, I had to pay 600 us dollars for the better model to get anything to work. Look at all the PS2 returns and PS2\'s that are being fixed.
About downloading IE 6... Well anyone that downloads an Alpha or beta software and has issues and expects not to have any problems is really not that bright anyway.
Not to mention that Sony makes anything and everything electronic including Alarm Clocks, VCR\'s, DVD players, monitors, headphones, video game software, computer software, tv\'s, calculators, music, movies, and I am not even going to keep naming stuff because its too long to keep on going, but clearly, Sony is into a lot more things than Microsoft.
Somehow Sony can\'t do anything wrong, they can rip people off, but because people like Sony because even though they are worse than Microsoft, at least they have the "quality myth"...
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Concerning the controllers...
(1) They are actually an excellent design, GC controller starting to look like it.
(2) PSXers don\'t have to dole out $100 to get 3 more controllers
(3) What would we do about backwards compatability if controllers were different huh?
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Just look at the psx2
-2 controller ports
-no HD built in
-No ethernet buitl in
-same S***ty controller(and don\'t give this **** about how the psx controller is so good it didn\'t need to get changed)
-They made it a BlTCH to program for
-it\'s GS is nothing impressive, SONY could have done alot better(although some might argue, only time will tell
-it\'s sound processor is utter crap compared to XBOX\'s
-No hardware AA
etc.....
How pathetic!
1. I dont want to play extra for something Ill never use!
2. We\'ll get OUR HDD. And if you think the HDD in Xbox is free, you stupid!
3. We\'ll get our Enthernet.
4. WHY WOULD THEY CHANGE IT??? ITs the best controller out there!
And I dont want a fricking BIG TOAD controller like the XBOX one! HAHAH
5. Oh I wonder why?
Maybe its because they dont want to have technolegy from the 70es in it.
PS2 hardware is the future!
And do you program games?
If not SHUT UP!
6. Really? How come it won a prise over the Pentium 3 or 4 and the GeForce 2???
Huh, huh?? I cant hear yoù?
Speak up son!
7. Oh well. Hmm PS2 kicks my computers arse when it comes to sound. No static crap!
PS2 has awesome sound!
8. So whats the problem? Do you program the gamez?
No LET THE DEVELOPERS LEAR FOR GODS SAKE!
And please stop sucking Bills willy!
/FAST
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Your kidding me right, SONY this generation didn\'t give two SHlT\'s about us gamers, ONLY our money. (don\'t get me wrong MS, and Nintendo want our money as well)
Just look at the psx2
-2 controller ports
-no HD built in
-No ethernet buitl in
-same S***ty controller(and don\'t give this **** about how the psx controller is so good it didn\'t need to get changed)
-They made it a BlTCH to program for
-it\'s GS is nothing impressive, SONY could have done alot better(although some might argue, only time will tell
-it\'s sound processor is utter crap compared to XBOX\'s
-No hardware AA
etc.....
MS has put 10 times more effort into making the ultimate game console, as SONY it seems had gotten lazy.
Sony at this point in time is just like Sega when they made the saturn, in the sense that they got C0cky, thinking that they were the best, and that they owned the console market, as SEGA thought with the saturn. You can ***** about GT3, MGS2 and so forth all you want but XBOX will be a better console with better games. The HD alone will take gaming to a whole new level
You say your not a fanboy, that you just bought PSX2 cause it came out first( you should of bought a DC) well i\'m not a MS fanboy, I owned the orginal PSX, cause it was a good console(as for PSX2 which is another story)
Now comes this generation and i see XBOX where psx was in the beginning. I see an amazing console, a Company that has put everything they got into this machine to win the gamers over, therefore I choose the XBOX, cause this time round MS is the better company, not SONY. Now i\'m sure those arrogant assholes over at sony have learned a lesson from the psx2, and when PSX3 comes out, It may very well be the SHlT, and maybe MS get\'s C0cky like sony, and gives us a half ass console XBOX2. WHO knows.
how the hell can you say X-BOX will be better its not like you played any of the games, thats just all speculation, how do you figure it will have better games when you havent even seen any microsoft console games yet on the market
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Ill be laughing my ass of then GC crushes tinky winky Xbox with its 3 impressive game list!
PS2 is going to win.
Have you seen the lame support Xbox has right now?
Its even lamer than a lama!
:laughing:
Oh, I cant wait to see Project Y, the latest build of Dropship, Tekken 4, Ace Combat 4, Getaway, Stuntman Driver, Metal Gear Solid 2, Silent Hill2 and 3, VF4, Dark Cloud 1 and 2, Online plans, SSX 2 (maybe!), PlanetSide (hopefully, cuz SOEI has invested in the developers making PS!), Commandos 2, Black & White, Pase Pharadox, Half-Life, FFX, Devil May Cry, Run Like Hell, AvsP2, Agent Under Fire ect. ect!
NICEEEEEE!
/FAST
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Originally posted by fastson
How pathetic!
1. I dont want to play extra for something Ill never use!
2. We\'ll get OUR HDD. And if you think the HDD in Xbox is free, you stupid!
3. We\'ll get our Enthernet.
4. WHY WOULD THEY CHANGE IT??? ITs the best controller out there!
And I dont want a fricking BIG TOAD controller like the XBOX one! HAHAH
5. Oh I wonder why?
Maybe its because they dont want to have technolegy from the 70es in it.
PS2 hardware is the future!
And do you program games?
If not SHUT UP!
6. Really? How come it won a prise over the Pentium 3 or 4 and the GeForce 2???
Huh, huh?? I cant hear yoù?
Speak up son!
7. Oh well. Hmm PS2 kicks my computers arse when it comes to sound. No static crap!
PS2 has awesome sound!
8. So whats the problem? Do you program the gamez?
No LET THE DEVELOPERS LEAR FOR GODS SAKE!
And please stop sucking Bills willy!
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Yes! How pathetic!
1.It saves money. Sony didn\'t include 4 ports so they could make extra money on the multi-tap.
2.If you don\'t see that the XB HDD\'s free, your a moron. It\'s free, Free, FREE!
3.Yes, you will, along with the HDD. And it\'ll cost you, and it\'ll be undersupported for that reason.
4.You\'ve played with the XB controller? \'Cause the press that has said it\'s a pretty good one. And the DS2 controller isn\'t perfect.
5.The future? Poorly designed game systems are the future? Thank you Sony! :rolleyes: Watch and see in 3 years how many smaller 3rd parties are even bothering with PS2. And I dont think any Nvidia chips are from the 70\'s....
6.It won something? Oh yes, that new award that means nothing in the industry, yes that one. :rolleyes: Hey, if it makes the Sony fanboys like you happy....
7.Your PC\'s sound has what to do with XB\'s? Oh yes, that\'s right, nothing.
8.I believe many developers have complained:
-About no hardware AA on PS2
-Difficulty in development on PS2
And complimented:
-XB\'s ease of development
-More powerful hardware
-Hardware FSAA
Please, get $onys **** out of your ass. I\'ve held back until I\'ve read enough with you, and now I have. Your a 100% Sony fanboy fastson.
Bozco!! Booooozzzzcccoooo!!!!!!! We can\'t tell that the games are better, we can tell that some of them are AAA games though. I didn\'t need to play Mario 64 to know what I was getting. I didn\'t need to play Soul Calibur or Sonic Adv. to know what I was getting. I knew they were AAA games before trying them, and I feel the same about quite a few XB titles. In fact, waaaay back, I wanted TWINE and Dark Cloud for PS2 launch (before they were delayed). Had those 2 games shipped, I wouldn\'t have been dissapointed with PS2\'s launch. Here\'s a clue: Developer you like+genre you like+great graphics= usually a game you can feel safe in buying before you try. IMO there\'s 0% chance Munch will dissapoint me at XB\'s launch, unless it\'s delayed, and it\'s more interesting to me than anything out for PS2. In fact the only games announced that interest me as much, is Blood Omen 2 and MGS2. Now if I cared about say a dozen XB games as much as Munch, I could easily say XB will have better games. I\'m not saying that though.... I just could.
Originally posted by fastson
Ill be laughing my ass of then GC crushes tinky winky Xbox with its 3 impressive game list!
PS2 is going to win.
Have you seen the lame support Xbox has right now?
Its even lamer than a lama!
Oh, I cant wait to see Project Y, the latest build of Dropship, Tekken 4, Ace Combat 4, Getaway, Stuntman Driver, Metal Gear Solid 2, Silent Hill2 and 3, VF4, Dark Cloud 1 and 2, Online plans, SSX 2 (maybe!), PlanetSide (hopefully, cuz SOEI has invested in the developers making PS!), Commandos 2, Black & White, Pase Pharadox, Half-Life, FFX, Devil May Cry, Run Like Hell, AvsP2, Agent Under Fire ect. ect!
NICEEEEEE!
/FAST
That\'s the most ignorant **** I\'ve ever heard. A 3rd of those (at least) will be on XB, a 3rd just suck, and a 3rd will be cancelled or were never announced. Thanks for proveing what a fanboy you are.
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ToBG, the DS cannot be used on many new PS2 games, and I dont think it will be able to be used at all in a couple years. The analog buttons on some games (like Bouncer) will not allow the DS to be used.
Eric Jacob
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LOL this topic here is pure JOKEs, just look at these SONY fanboys squirming, LOL.
You tell them ETHUGG, it\'s so clear which one is the superiour console. PSX2 is as good as my SEGA SATURN(hell i liked the SATURN better than the psx2)
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Originally posted by EThugg
That\'s the most ignorant **** I\'ve ever heard. A 3rd of those (at least) will be on XB, a 3rd just suck, and a 3rd will be cancelled or were never announced. Thanks for proveing what a fanboy you are.
HAHAHAHAH!!
A 3rd of them on Xbox? Nope
Suck?
Oh well, 90% of the Xbox games that has been announced are ****ty PC ports!
3rd Cancelled? HHAHA
LMAO!
Oh yes, I cant belive how stupid you are!
Please take Bills nut out of your mouth before you talk!
EThugg: Go back where you came from! (yo mama!)
Xbox hasnt impressed me yet, and prob. never will.
PS2 is the only system with a AWESOME lineup of games.
PS2 is even more than I was expecting!
Cant wait to see how Project Y will relovutionise PS2 programming,..
Ahhhhh, I look forward to E3!
I wont reply in this thread anymore. Cant stand to read such retarded posts!
I feel a slight dissapiontment in Xbox... (Face it! It aint all that! What makes a console goood????? GAMEZZZZZZZZZZ!)
/FAST
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Surely most of the games under development now for xbox will have already been programed to take advantage of the proposed hardware specs, no? Isn\'t it similar to plugging in an updated video card on your PC and having old games look improved? I don\'t know, just asking. Yeah, I guess there would be program tweaking to get the best results but from the announcement quote it sounds like the speaker thinks the hardware is out in time for devs to provide a much closer resemblance to the final product than was shown at TGS. Anyone else pick up on that?
And yes, I\'ll grant it will be at least a year or so after xbox is out before we see games make close to the maximum use of the hardware, though I don\'t expect the improvements would be considerable over what\'s seen on launch day.
One more thing. I would request the x-men prone to over using the term "fanboy" as a would-be slap in the face and homo erotic phrases as insults, please don\'t answer these questions. There seems a tendency for them to thoughtlessly say whatever comes to mind just to try and make their point and they don\'t sound in any way believable most of the time. Probably won\'t do any good but I had to say it anyway.
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Yes! Tomorrow I can finally insult people again! This topic is packed with moronic, bias, and ignorant replies so get ready people! ;)
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Concerning the controllers...
(1) They are actually an excellent design, GC controller starting to look like it.
Sony\'s controller is based on the SNES pad which was based on the NES pad so in essence Nintendo went back to their roots. :D
Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
(2) PSXers don\'t have to dole out $100 to get 3 more controllers
I don\'t know about you but I didn\'t buy 4 controllers for my N64 and my DC. I have the original that came with it and a pretty one that only I use. If anyone wants to play a nice nmultiplayer game they usually bring their own pad.
Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
(3) What would we do about backwards compatability if controllers were different huh?
Sinxce when was backwards compatibility a necessity? What other console advertised backwards compatibility like it was an awesome new feature? It is just an excuse to say that the PS2 already has a library of over 400+ games. Not that it was a bad strategy, pretty impressive actuall, but nothing to call home about.
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Yes! Tomorrow I can finally insult people again! This topic is packed with moronic, bias, and ignorant replies so get ready people!
Werd. Most of the replies here have been pretty lame, but I rarely post in this area anyways, but it\'s still fun to read to see what flaming dogsh*t Sony people and MS people are flinging. I\'m just wondering how MS news turn into MS\\Sony debates... Isn\'t the bigger threat to MS the impending NGC launch and its consistency to have a launch with at least 2-3 AAA games that make the console a must have? I don\'t know, but Halo isn\'t enough for me to actually want the console as soon as it releases and nearly every other videogame editor (besides the thugs at ign.pc and ign.xbox) agree with me. It\'s just lacking something that makes it seem really interesting, but I suppose the PS2 launch did as well and back then, I needed mine for a replacement PSX and a DVD player. Who knows, maybe something will be announced at E3 that will make it really appealing, but right now, my money will go to NGC and then X-Box in about a year or two.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
-it\'s sound processor is utter crap compared to XBOX\'s
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Hell, PS2\'s sound processor is utter crap compared to the Dreamcast\'s! Sony just glued two PSX soundchips together and said "it\'s twice as good as the PSX sound...job well done!" Dreamcast has a 64 channel Yamaha chip while PS2 has a 48- channel piece-o-crap! No Dolby Surround, either? Don\'t let me get started...
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Wow. Faston has completed his metamorphosis into a full-blown fanboy.
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um i am dead sure it supports surroud sound dude.
i play it with surround sound daily.
and how many more sounds do you want? i think 40+ different sounds is enouugh to keep me occupied.
dont post sh!t please
thank you. i agree with what ryu has said, and there was a interview with a produser that said he knows that x box is only marginally better (graphically) than ps2.
sry i dont keep links too often.if you want one ill try and find it.
i know that interview was well known though
:D:D
oh yeah x box has to launch next to gamecube which will be almost 1/2 the price of x box, and most people like nintendo more than microsoft, because of someone saying they are a monopoly.
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Hell, PS2\'s sound processor is utter crap compared to the Dreamcast\'s! Sony just glued two PSX soundchips together and said "it\'s twice as good as the PSX sound...job well done!" Dreamcast has a 64 channel Yamaha chip while PS2 has a 48- channel piece-o-crap! No Dolby Surround, either? Don\'t let me get started...
You obviously have no idea what you\'re talking about. No Dolby Surround? Umm, better check again, it\'s there. I hate to burst your bubble, but a PS2 w/Digital Output sounds much clearer and better than the DC. I have both, and can easily distinguish the difference from going back and forth.
Ogodlything, xbox having much better sound? At first I thought you were just fighting the ignorant comments that flood this board, now I know you\'re nothing but a M$ fanboy. Seeing how you have no clue as to what the xbox will sound like, you can\'t pass that off as a fact. Oh but M$ said the soundchip was superior, must be true then. I feel bad that your xbox loving self would waste time in a sony forum. Wake up and get a clue.
- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
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ya know what? i think many people have become Biased toward one console or the other in the last month. i think it should be known thai i think this forum is gonna be one huge flame war soon. unless we have someone like ryu who can straighten thigs out pretty well :D
please stop these flame warz. they just harm this forum\'s integrity.
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ya know what? i think many people have become Biased toward one console or the other in the last month. i think it should be known thai i think this forum is gonna be one huge flame war soon. unless we have someone like ryu who can straighten thigs out pretty well
please stop these flame warz. they just harm this forum\'s integrity.
I wish that were possible, but it\'s not. As long as there is an attack towards any console, there will always be someone defending. Thus a war is started. Everyone is full of opinions, and everyone tries to pass them off as facts. You can\'t convince a blind man to see. What some people don\'t get, is that this is a Sony forum, thus the majority of members are loyal to Sony. If you want a neutral board to talk in, go somewhere that doesn\'t pertain to one console. I won\'t go preaching or arguing in an xbox forum because it doesn\'t interest me. To each his own.
- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
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Originally posted by Falcon4
ya know what? i think many people have become Biased toward one console or the other in the last month. i think it should be known thai i think this forum is gonna be one huge flame war soon. unless we have someone like ryu who can straighten thigs out pretty well :D
please stop these flame warz. they just harm this forum\'s integrity.
E3 has some people on edge. A couple weeks after it is done things should calm down again.
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i agree mabye thats it. e3 i think will be the point where we all know who will come out on top, so everyon is gettin all exited. good observation, i didnt see that.
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Originally posted by fastson
HAHAHAHAH!!
A 3rd of them on Xbox? Nope
Suck?
Oh well, 90% of the Xbox games that has been announced are ****ty PC ports!
3rd Cancelled? HHAHA
LMAO!
Oh yes, I cant belive how stupid you are!
Please take Bills nut out of your mouth before you talk!
EThugg: Go back where you came from! (yo mama!)
Xbox hasnt impressed me yet, and prob. never will.
PS2 is the only system with a AWESOME lineup of games.
PS2 is even more than I was expecting!
Cant wait to see how Project Y will relovutionise PS2 programming,..
Ahhhhh, I look forward to E3!
I wont reply in this thread anymore. Cant stand to read such retarded posts!
I feel a slight dissapiontment in Xbox... (Face it! It aint all that! What makes a console goood????? GAMEZZZZZZZZZZ!)
/FAST
Nuts? In my mouth? Not unless I\'m getting paid... :p
I am correct with those numbers. More than a 3rd of the games you listed are also going to XB. And I said a 3rd would be cancelled or were never announced.
I don\'t care if your impressed with XB, your entitled to your opinion, but that doesn\'t mean you need to defend stupid things and lie (I noticed you didn\'t reply to my #\'d replies... because you can\'t.).
PS2 is great, but you must\'ve had really low expectations if it\'s beaten yours. And while Project Y will likely rock, I don\'t see it affecting PS2 programming much...
I look foward to E3 too!
It\'s too bad that half the retarded posts are yours...
What is there to be dissapointed with? It\'s not even out. And I agree, the games matter, and that\'s exactly why I am getting a XB, for the games.
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Originally posted by EThugg
Bozco!! Booooozzzzcccoooo!!!!!!! We can\'t tell that the games are better, we can tell that some of them are AAA games though. I didn\'t need to play Mario 64 to know what I was getting. I didn\'t need to play Soul Calibur or Sonic Adv. to know what I was getting. I knew they were AAA games before trying them, and I feel the same about quite a few XB titles. In fact, waaaay back, I wanted TWINE and Dark Cloud for PS2 launch (before they were delayed). Had those 2 games shipped, I wouldn\'t have been dissapointed with PS2\'s launch. Here\'s a clue: Developer you like+genre you like+great graphics= usually a game you can feel safe in buying before you try. IMO there\'s 0% chance Munch will dissapoint me at XB\'s launch, unless it\'s delayed, and it\'s more interesting to me than anything out for PS2. In fact the only games announced that interest me as much, is Blood Omen 2 and MGS2. Now if I cared about say a dozen XB games as much as Munch, I could easily say XB will have better games. I\'m not saying that though.... I just could.
Thank you for an intelligent response
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Originally posted by Bozco
Thank you for an intelligent response
Hmmmm... no smiley... no smart ass comments. I can\'t tell if your sincere or not....
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Originally posted by EThugg
Hmmmm... no smiley... no smart ass comments. I can\'t tell if your sincere or not....
i never put any of those faces but i was sincere
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Originally posted by Bozco
i never put any of those faces but i was sincere
Ahhh, then thank you. You haven\'t been as disagreeable lately either.
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It puts a tear to my ear when i see two people finally getting along woith one another. Sniff, sniff it\'s real emotional for me.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
It puts a tear to my ear when i see two people finally getting along woith one another. Sniff, sniff it\'s real emotional for me.
yeah im almost about to cry
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hear then i\'ll give you a tissue, What are friends for
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Yes! Finally, the HHH of PSX2Central, has gone back, to his old ways.... The wait is over...enough punch lines lets get to it fanboys. Lets start with the annoying MS troll.
Your kidding me right, SONY this generation didn\'t give two SHlT\'s about us gamers, ONLY our money. (don\'t get me wrong MS, and Nintendo want our money as well)
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. :rolleyes:
Just look at the psx2
-2 controller ports
-no HD built in
-No ethernet buitl in
-same S***ty controller(and don\'t give this **** about how the psx controller is so good it didn\'t need to get changed)
-They made it a BlTCH to program for
-it\'s GS is nothing impressive, SONY could have done alot better(although some might argue, only time will tell
-it\'s sound processor is utter crap compared to XBOX\'s
-No hardware AA
etc.....
Sony screwed up with their hardware, so what? Sony has the best third parties out there to make the games for PS2(sure some will develop for Xbox but not the same amount) and that\'s all that really matters in the end. Games are what\'s important right?
MS has put 10 times more effort into making the ultimate game console, as SONY it seems had gotten lazy.
Moron, lets see what MS has beein doing.
-Using existent PC architecture
-Stealing the controller design
Would you like to repeat that statement now?
but XBOX will be a better console with better games.
And you know this, how? Fool, you can\'t say whether the games are better or not. Right now its 100% speculation.
The HD alone will take gaming to a whole new level
It didn\'t do anything for PC gaming obviously so why would you say this?
Now comes this generation and i see XBOX where psx was in the beginning. I see an amazing console, a Company that has put everything they got into this machine to win the gamers over, therefore I choose the XBOX, cause this time round MS is the better company, not SONY.
Can I please borrow your time travelling machine so I can shoot your mother before she gives birth to you so we won\'t have to listen to your BS statements anymore?
Also, it\'s called the PS2, not the PSX2. Just another example of your intelligence...
at least they have the "quality myth"...
Shut up dicwiz. We all know MS makes ****ty products. Its no myth for them.
Ok, enough with the Xbox fanboys, lets move on to the PS2 fanboys.
1. I dont want to play extra for something Ill never use!
You can\'t speak for everyone.
. We\'ll get OUR HDD. And if you think the HDD in Xbox is free, you stupid!
3. We\'ll get our Enthernet.
You stupid...that alone shows your stupidity.
Anyhoo, memorize this formula for me genius.
add-ons=****+ failures
PS2 hardware is the future!
LOL. Hard to develop for consoles that take a lot of money to get the jist of it is the future of consoles? I think not.
PS2 is going to win.
Ah, I see you have a time machine too. Can I borrow yours for the same reason as I previously stated?
Oh, I cant wait to see Project Y, the latest build of Dropship, Tekken 4, Ace Combat 4, Getaway, Stuntman Driver, Metal Gear Solid 2, Silent Hill2 and 3, VF4, Dark Cloud 1 and 2, Online plans, SSX 2 (maybe!), PlanetSide (hopefully, cuz SOEI has invested in the developers making PS!), Commandos 2, Black & White, Pase Pharadox, Half-Life, FFX, Devil May Cry, Run Like Hell, AvsP2, Agent Under Fire ect. ect!
Niiiice! Way to speak for everyone again dumb ass! :rolleyes:
That\'s the most ignorant **** I\'ve ever heard. A 3rd of those (at least) will be on XB, a 3rd just suck, and a 3rd will be cancelled or were never announced. Thanks for proveing what a fanboy you are.
So a fourth of those games will be worth getting for PS2?
LOL this topic here is pure JOKEs, just look at these SONY fanboys squirming, LOL.
Is that your only way of defending yourself? By overly using the term LOL? I swear it\'s all you got...
You tell them ETHUGG, it\'s so clear which one is the superiour console.
Shut yer ass fanboy. The Xbox isn\'t even out yet. If we were to judge which is the best by using the power of the console then NGC would win. But its all about games and each console will get their fare share of high quality ones.
God, faston and Ogodlything are possibly the dumbest fanboys ever...ugh.
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POOR old jumpman. I\'ll tell you what little boy, if you clean your room up and eat your dinner, I’ll let you take a ride in my SO CALLED TIME MACHINE.
Shut yer ass fanboy. The Xbox isn\'t even out yet. If we were to judge which is the best by using the power of the console then NGC would win.
Oh so I see you too have this TIME MACHINE as well. Look who is talking, you just contradicted yourself, here you are blasting us for using our TIME machines, but it\'s ok if you get away with it, which then leads to my next point
God, faston and Ogodlything are possibly the dumbest fanboys ever...ugh. better than being the "DUMBEST FANBOY" like you JUMPMAN. YEt to be politically correct I would have to say N-player is number 1 but you come right after him.
Watch i bet this loser is going to BlTCH about how he isn\'t FANBOY. LOL
PS. LOL is my trade mark you dumb F_U_C_K JUMPMAN
LOL,LOL,LOL
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Tip- you don\'t win arguments by just insulting people.
Resorting to childesh name calling eh? I could easily kill you at this but I won\'t since I\'m a little to old for that kind of stuff and I don\'t need to. You do a good job with making yourself look stupid.
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Resorting to childesh name calling eh? I could easily kill you at this but I won\'t since I\'m a little to old for that kind of stuff and I don\'t need to.
LOL, who said anything about childesh name calling, I was just speaking the truth. You are a little boy, I understand.
You do a good job with making yourself look stupid.
"If so" than VISE VERSA. If you were so smart as you speak of, then you would have had the intelligence to understand that responding this thread in the manner in which you took,would have resolved nothing
LOL
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Tip- you don\'t win arguments by just insulting people
nope nor do you win them with biased morons like you. Either way nothing is going to get accomplished, and it\'s not about winning the argument with you, that is what you don\'t understand. So you might as well have fun with it, sit back and take deep breath of fresh air.
Oh and Smile
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Oh so I see you too have this TIME MACHINE as well. Look who is talking, you just contradicted yourself, here you are blasting us for using our TIME machines, but it\'s ok if you get away with it, which then leads to my next point
Meh. One bad remark doesn\'t affect me when your whole post is gibberish. Saying the Xbox is better is a way dumber statement considering the fact that you have never played one before.
better than being the "DUMBEST FANBOY" like you JUMPMAN.
Hahahahaha that was truly pathetic. Your like a fourth grader. "I know you are but what I\'m I?" Haahahaha and you call me the little kid? Dumb ass. :laughing:
YEt to be politically correct I would have to say N-player is number 1 but you come right after him.
Ugh. I am not explaining that I own almost every console there is. Do you know what a fanboy is? Its someone who bashes one system while premoting another. IE-YOU.
Watch i bet this loser is going to BlTCH about how he isn\'t FANBOY. LOL
Dumb ass.
For idiots like you who think I am a fanboy then I have to but everyone else knows I\'m not.
PS. LOL is my trade mark you dumb F_U_C_K JUMPMAN
Trade mark? LMAO. You really do a good job with setting yourself up.
LOL, who said anything about childesh name calling, I was just speaking the truth. You are a little boy, I understand
GOD STOP USING THE WORD LOL YOU ****ING MORON. Your setting yourself up by doing that.
For one, I can\'t be little if I\'m 6\'2 and over 160. Your just some stupid ugly computer nerd trying to act tough. Obviously its not working...
"If so" than VISE VERSA. If you were so smart as you speak of, then you would have had the intelligence to understand that responding this thread in the manner in which you took,would have resolved nothing
Read my "I\'m supposed to be the kid" statement. Quit using little kids\' lines to try and win arguments, troll.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
nope nor do you win them with biased morons like you. Either way nothing is going to get accomplished, and it\'s not about winning the argument with you, that is what you don\'t understand. So you might as well have fun with it, sit back and take deep breath of fresh air.
Oh and Smile
Biased moron? Look at yourself.
Lets look at some of the stuff you said.
You tell them ETHUGG, it\'s so clear which one is the superiour console. PSX2 is as good as my SEGA SATURN(hell i liked the SATURN better than the psx2)
MS has put 10 times more effort into making the ultimate game console, as SONY it seems had gotten lazy.
Now comes this generation and i see XBOX where psx was in the beginning. I see an amazing console, a Company that has put everything they got into this machine to win the gamers over, therefore I choose the XBOX, cause this time round MS is the better company, not SONY.
but XBOX will be a better console with better games.
Your a good troll you to have around. And I smile when say that. :)
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oh crap,what happened to my nice thread of light-hearted insults towards X-box hardware finalization. ok,Jumpman and TheOgodlyThing
...stop it now before i throw you in a cage with a bean bag / a fan / two matches and three..err..one broom...that means you\'ll be all messed up when i\'m thru with you :D
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Meh. One bad remark doesn\'t affect me when your whole post is gibberish. Saying the Xbox is better is a way dumber statement considering the fact that you have never played one before
Is that the best excuse you can come up with. Just be man and admit your wrong, I got you there, but of course you wont.
Hahahahaha that was truly pathetic. Your like a fourth grader. "I know you are but what I\'m I?" Haahahaha and you call me the little kid? Dumb ass
Nice try JUMPMAN YOU DA MAN, LOL. Need i explain more, if so do tell.
Ugh. I am not explaining that I own almost every console there is. Do you know what a fanboy is? Its someone who bashes one system while premoting another. IE-YOU.
So do I. Plus i think you forgot your thinking cap in your dipers. If you didn\'t notice this is console debating. People here are going to bash systems, console debating is about which system is better, and in order to do that one must point out the flaws of the other, some call it opions, others like you call it bashing etc..
Get a clue man.....
Dumb ass.
For idiots like you who think I am a fanboy then I have to but everyone else knows I\'m not.
That\'s a bold statement, Who is everyone else??? Nope your talking through your ass again, and here you prove yourself wrong, like usual. The only people that will back you up are PSX2 fanboys, and your buddies. Well hell, I can do the same. So you see everyone else does not know your not a fanboy.
Trade mark? LMAO. You really do a good job with setting yourself up.
Really, How so?????? It seems to me that if you hit the search function you will see that in the majority of my posts I use LOL. It is you ,whom has just set himelf up again. A dumbass you are sir.
GOD STOP USING THE WORD LOL YOU ****ING MORON. Your setting yourself up by doing that.
READ ABOVE YOU lamer......
For one, I can\'t be little if I\'m 6\'2 and over 160. Your just some stupid ugly computer nerd trying to act tough. Obviously its not working...
My GOD are you done crying yet. If your 6\'2 and over 160 than act your age(i know you will try and use this against me). Oh by the way i\'m 6 feet exactly and I weight 185., which is all muscle mass, considering i\'m a GYM buff.(MET-Rx user) So am I tough? Physically I am but do i care...NOPE.
Read my "I\'m supposed to be the kid" statement. Quit using little kids\' lines to try and win arguments, troll.
I\'m sorry i keep using little kid lines(which is in no way an attempt to win an argument) but it\'s just that everytime i have to respond to your silly little posts, it seems as if i\'m dealing with a 6\'2 160 pound computer geek, 15 year old. What can I say it\'s how I feel.
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Biased moron? Look at yourself.
Lets look at some of the stuff you said
OK lamer......Now do you want me to point out what you said JUMPMAN, or shall i save myself the time, cause all that will happen is the infinity effect. You say A I say B, you say X I say Y etc....
yawn..............
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Ah yes, the fanboys struck again. Because of their unintelligent debating, worthless arguments and pathetic namecalling this thread is now closed.