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Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Mac1 on May 11, 2001, 09:38:37 AM
PSM. Here\'s what they had to say in the May issue concerning Smackdown 3:

"THQ has also said to expect nine characters to be able to battle it out in the ring at once, plus the ability to distract the ref, rush opponents during their entrances, and you can even fight with your tag-team partner after a loss. All this at a promised 60 frames per second, no less."

They also went on to mention that 1000+ moves will make their way into the game. And, the news of rushing opponents during their intro\'s signifies that Smackdown 3 will feature not only full length intro\'s for the first time, but REAL-TIME intro\'s as well. This is all great news, but lets just hope that THQ can get the season mode right this time to complete this package as the true wrestling game we\'ve all been waiting for. More news as it comes, later!
Title: Yo
Post by: STROKE on May 11, 2001, 11:12:04 AM
It\'s funny that the name is "Just bring it".

Do you think it\'s unfair?
Title: Re: Yo
Post by: tHe GaMe on May 11, 2001, 12:51:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by STROKE
It\'s funny that the name is "Just bring it".

Do you think it\'s unfair?


I think not.
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Bladez on May 11, 2001, 12:53:49 PM
They kind of need to get off the Smackdown!s. Have Raw is War or WWF Heat.  The Smackdown! thing is going crazy.
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: tHe GaMe on May 11, 2001, 01:20:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bladez
They kind of need to get off the Smackdown!s. Have Raw is War or WWF Heat.  The Smackdown! thing is going crazy.


It\'s an official series just like Final Fantasy is.
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: EmperorRob on May 11, 2001, 01:22:52 PM
The music on RAW is much better.
I want to be able to control my character down to the ring and taunt the crowd and be a heel.  I get people to boo me :D  I want to be able to get out of the ring and tell Lillian Garcia to get up so I can use her steel chair to hit somebody with.
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on May 11, 2001, 02:52:53 PM
Woohoo!

You can bet your momma I\'ll be getting this game the day it comes out. Oh hell yeah.



If ya smell what The Rock is cookin!
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Majin Prince on May 11, 2001, 07:25:54 PM
yeah i\'m getting this game the day it comes out too!!! :D
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 12, 2001, 03:25:45 AM
i hope the hardie boyz can kick some serious ass.  get some full on double team moves happenen, Poetry in Motion, ohh yeah

i also hope they have some old school characers and sheet...gimme the ultimate warrior  :D
Title: Yo
Post by: STROKE on May 12, 2001, 06:15:05 AM
Ultimate Warrior.....Yeah this was real wrestling. I want to play classic wrestling matches like Sting vs. Flair 1991 or Sting vs. Hogan at Starcade 1997
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on May 12, 2001, 05:05:43 PM
Yeah I hope Hogan is in the game....

SO I CAN BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF HIM!!!
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: kopking on May 13, 2001, 06:08:52 AM
cool, cant wait for this, so i can open a can of whoop ass on someone
Title: Yo
Post by: STROKE on May 13, 2001, 08:53:47 AM
What about a WCW PS2 wrestling game. That would rock.


WE WANT STING WE WANT STING WE WANT STING
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Gradman on May 14, 2001, 04:27:53 AM
oh yeah, how good is this game sounding?? Damn... I hope you can pull authentic heel turns, that\'d be awesome. Taking out lillian or the fink with a steel chair sounds very good to me indeed :D


And full entrances, it\'s about time, this just gets better and better
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Mac1 on May 15, 2001, 07:46:59 AM
uhhh here\'s some more stuff i just found

Japanese developer Yuke\'s has an extremely nice office. Most independent development houses over there don\'t have quite such posh accomodations, nor do they reside in such expensive parts of town (in this case, one of the more pleasant areas of Yokohama). But then again, most such developers haven\'t produced two million-selling blockbuster games, either.
From what we saw when we visited that office, it looks like that streak will continue. WWF SmackDown! Just Bring It (the game formerly known as SmackDown! 3) is not a substantial reworking or rethinking of the series, but it includes the same gameplay that has been so popular on the PlayStation, and not only is the new hardware enabling a remarkable leap forward in visual presentation, new game modes are made available by the PS2\'s graphical power. The biggest of all questions remains to be answered -- no, we don\'t know whether you can do the 3D through a table -- but this should still be a fine kickoff for the PlayStation 2\'s wrestling library.

The wrestler models were primarily what we were shown just before the Tokyo Game Show, animating within preliminary versions of the SmackDown, RAW, and pay-per view arenas, including a stadium patterned after the one that hosted Wrestlemania XVII. Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock were the only wrestlers complete enough to show, although they could perform animations specific to several other characters -- as those who tinkered around with SmackDown! 2\'s create-a-stable mode can attest, watching them dance like Too Cool was pretty entertaining.

Just standing still, though, they\'re impressive enough, with 800 polygons making up each wrestler\'s body and 500 for just the head. That will allow complex facial animations, from smiles to grimaces to, yes, the People\'s Eyebrow, adding up to a total of 1,000 different animations. Just Bring It is also the first SmackDown to incorporate motion-captured animation, although it will mainly be used for more natural movements -- walking, idle animations, and the like -- rather than wrestling moves. As you can see from the shots below, that animation will be matched by considerable smoothness of texturing and modeling in each character. Skin tones are more realistic, and there\'s more depth to musculature and other physical features. They\'re not just textured on anymore, but properly drawn in 3D. The engine handles all of this with ease, though, kicking the framerate up to a clean 60fps as compared to the PlayStation games\' 30.

Similar improvements have been made in the arenas, which have always been one of SmackDown!\'s strong points. Built with 3 times as many polygons (6,000 total), they are more expansive, more animated, and more interactive, especially with regards to lighting. The huge lighting rig above the ring appeared in the PlayStation games, but on PS2 it will direct many more complex realtime lighting effects. The upper reaches of the arenas are also modeled with greater detail, including animating crowds and billboards up in the cheap seats. Below, the character-specific signs and other tailored elements of the environment will return, and hopefully the ringside environment will become more interactive. The developers are looking to include more elements along the lines of the announcers\' tables in SmackDown! 2 -- hopefully, there will be even more items to break and fly off of around the ring.

Of course, if you want out-of-the-ring mayhem, you can always head a little farther away. Just Bring It will include a full complement of backstage areas, with the same kind of interactive environments that appeared in SmackDown! 2, and they will all be linked together, allowing hardcore and falls-count-anywhere matches to progress through a series of rooms and areas. The current listing of accessible areas is as follows:


SmackDown! Arena
Outside Lobby
Plaza
RAW Is War Arena
PPV Arenas
Parking Garage
Boiler Room
WWF New York
WWF Times Square
Entrances into the arena are likely to be expanded in comparison to the PlayStation games. Many fans have asked for something more realistic than the superimposition of characters over FMV, and Yuke\'s is hoping to oblige by integrating that FMV into the 3D arena for the complete entrance experience.
That would be a tall order, considering the number of wrestlers included, especially since every character is going to demand much more modeling time. That\'s likely why the wrestler list has contracted in comparison to the PlayStation games, although the listing we have is preliminary -- the figure we\'re given for the final version is "35 to 50."

Click here for the current wrestler list.

WCW wrestlers are a possibility, but that decision is in the hands of the suits, not the developers. Even if they don\'t appear, though, you can create them or any other character from a selection of more than 1,000 edit parts. That\'s not as many as SmackDown! 2 (which had 2,500), but it\'s still a substantial array of cosmetic options, and those options will be made available by an improved GUI, with more animating elements and other nifty stuff.

Created and licensed wrestlers can compete in a total of 67 different match types, counting all the different combinations of matches and stipulations. That figure is rather stretching it, but there\'s still an awful lot of different possibilities, including six-man matches and eight-man battle royales (although only four human players are supported as yet). The Royal Rumble should be much closer to the real-life mayhem, too. Table and TLC matches are included for those of a garbagey bent, and the developers are hoping (as we are) that the table-breaking mechanics will be a little more versatile than before. No changes in that area are confirmed, however.

Click here for the current match type list.

SmackDown! Just Bring It, as with SmackDowns past, is guaranteed to spawn its share of mysteries while it goes through development. The Season mode, for example, is still a very big question mark, although it\'s one of the areas most in need of improvement (you wouldn\'t believe the number of players who couldn\'t even get their wrestlers in a match in that mode). We can be fairly sure, however, that it will live up to the standards of presentation set in the first two games -- though they were both in need of improvement, they were leaps ahead of the competition in terms of realism and gameplay. Check back in a couple of days for the latest news from E3, where we\'ll get a new look at what Yuke\'s and THQ have in store.

-- David Smith

Match List

1. Single Match - No Manager
2. Single Match - With Manager
3. Tag Match - Normal
4. Tag Match - With Manager
5. Tag Match - Tornado Tag
6. Six-Man Tag Match - Normal
7. Six-Man Tag Match - Tornado Six-Man
8. Handicap - One on Two
9. Handicap - One on Tag
10. Handicap - One on Three
11. Royal Rumble
12. King of the Ring - Normal
13. King of the Ring - "Amazing"
14. Hardcore - Single
15. Hardcore - Tornado Tag
16. Hardcore - Tornado Six-Man
17. Hardcore - Triple Threat Tornado Tag
18. Hardcore - One on Two
19. Hardcore - One on Three
20. Hardcore - Triple Threat
21. Hardcore - Fatal Four-Way
22. Hardcore - Special Referee
23. Hardcore - Time-Limit Title Match
24. Falls Count Anywhere - Single
25. Falls Count Anywhere - Tornado Tag
26. Falls Count Anywhere - Tornado Six-Man
27. Falls Count Anywhere - Triple Threat Tornado Tag
28. Falls Count Anywhere - One on Two
29. Falls Count Anywhere - One on Three
30. Falls Count Anywhere - Triple Threat
31. Falls Count Anywhere - Fatal Four-Way
32. Falls Count Anywhere - Special Referee
33. Survival - Triple Threat
34. Survival - Fatal Four-Way
35. Survival - Lumberjack
36. Survival - Battle Royal (Six men)
37. Survival - Battle Royal (Eight men)
38. Cage - Single
39. Cage - Tornado Tag
40. Cage - Triple Threat
41. Cage - Fatal Four-Way
42. Hell in a Cell - Single
43. Hell in a Cell - Tornado Tag
44. Hell in a Cell - Triple Threat
45. Hell in a Cell - Fatal Four-Way
46. I Quit - Single
47. Special Referee - One Referee
48. Special Referee - Two Referee
49. Ladder - Single
50. Ladder - Tornado Tag
51. Ladder - Triple Threat
52. Ladder - Fatal Four-Way
53. Table - Single
54. Table - Tornado Tag
55. Table - Triple Threat
56. Table - Fatal Four-Way
57. TLC - Single
58. TLC - Tornado Tag
59. TLC - Triple Threat
60. TLC - Fatal Four-Way
61. Slobberknocker
62. Iron-Man - Single
63. Iron-Man - Special Referee
64. TLC for Title - Single
65. TLC for Title - Tornado Tag
66. TLC for Title - Triple Threat
67. TLC for Title - Fatal Four-Way

current wrestler list

The Rock
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Triple H
The Undertaker
Kurt Angle
Kane
Chris Jericho
Big Show
Rikishi
Chris Benoit
Edge
Christian
Buh Buh Ray Dudley
D-Von Dudley
Matt Hardy
Jeff Hardy
Lita
Billy Gunn
Chyna
William Regal
Tazz
Raven
Steven Richards
The Goodfather
Ivory
Grand Master Sexay
Scotty 2 Hotty
Hardcore Holly
Crash Holly
Molly Holly
Dean Malenko
Perry Saturn
Eddy Guerrero
Faarooq
Bradshaw
Test
Albert
Trish Stratus
Michael Cole
Vince McMahon
Stephanie McMahon
Shane McMahon
Earl Hebner
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: EmperorRob on May 15, 2001, 08:26:46 AM
Haha, I\'m going to play as Earl Hebner
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Eiksirf on May 15, 2001, 11:21:19 AM
Cage, ladders, 6-man, 8-man, TLC, hell in a cell... man I\'ve never wanted a PS2 more than I do right now.  I hope AKI is taking notes.

-Eik
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on May 15, 2001, 02:09:13 PM
THANKS MAC1!!!!!
This news made my day. :)
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: ooseven on May 15, 2001, 02:46:34 PM
just thought that i would add a screen of one of the charater mod\'s for us all to get an idea about what it will look like.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fsmack%2Fsmack_1.jpg&hash=54a5fbecb75adafcfd4deb40b60972fdfc007e43)
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: tHe GaMe on May 15, 2001, 03:52:08 PM
Damnit I cannot wait for this game...
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Gradman on May 16, 2001, 02:57:28 AM
phroar.... that\'s all I can say. How much better can this game get?? The one thing I hate with wrestling games is when you\'ve played every match type to death, and there\'s no more replay value (for a while :D )

But damn.... 60+ match types, that\'s insanity, there\'s no way you can outplay this game, it just sounds so damn good.

I can\'t wait...
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Mac1 on May 16, 2001, 10:09:49 AM
*   SmackDown! Arena
*   Outside Lobby
*   Plaza
*   RAW Is War Arena
*   PPV Arenas
*   Parking Garage
*   Boiler Room
*   WWF New York
*   WWF Times Square

those are some of the backstage areas, there is pics up at

http://wrestlinggames.com/main.htm
Title: Yo
Post by: STROKE on May 16, 2001, 10:16:12 AM
What about ME?










What about Raven?
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Mac1 on May 17, 2001, 02:35:24 PM
i got something for you all

not very impressive but here ya go

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,469044-6,00.html

ok dont kill me but i like this x-box wwf raw is war pic a little better

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,454283-23,00.html
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: tHe GaMe on May 17, 2001, 06:56:07 PM
I\'m disappointed in the PS2 graphics for Smackdown, RIW is sooooooooo freaking tight.
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Mac1 on May 18, 2001, 04:44:28 AM
look at this walls of jericho picture..... Triple H is takeing it.... heh heh

http://xbox.ign.com/previews/15814.html
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Bladez on May 18, 2001, 04:10:07 PM
D@mn. I was hoping they would make AN INFERNO MATCH!!!!! Jeez, for awhile now people have been lying about how to get the Inferno Match. For crying out loud I hope it\'s a secret match type or something.  Lets hope that there is a lot more create-a-wrestler options and actually some real music not like the last 2 where they had like soothing music or if you should have the option to turn it off.  Lets hope they also have Jim Ross and Paul Heymen as the RAW announcers and Micheal Cole and Tazz as the Smackdown! announcers. I hope it won\'t be like War Zone or WWF Attitude commentary (lets face it, it sucked:D). And if there is a ref. I hope they change them each time you play. But if you play as Earl Hebner don\'t have the ref. Earl Hebner(unless it\'s his twin). Another thing I hope they add is you can throw them off the stage and threw a table or something or even do a move ex. power bomb, chokeslam, Buh-Buh Bomb, ?piledriver?, etc. Now lets move to the Hell in the Cell.  Hopefully Yukes learned from last time they should put it around the whole ring not just on top of it like in Smackdown! 2. If they really want to make it real put camera men around the ring.  Jeez, I have got a lot to say. Sorry. Now to table matches. Wouldn\'t it be cool (directed to tHe GaMe) Pedegree them through a table? Or actucally do the 3-D? This list goes on and on. A Last Ride, Chokelsam to Hell, Downward Spiral, The Impaler, etc.  Back to the matches--How about this one if it was a super secret match. A No-Holds bar, Hell in a Cell, Cage, TLC, Casket, Inferno match. That would be cool.

P.S. Do you think they\'ll have a Smackdown! 4? And if so what would it be Smackdown! 4: Shut Your Mouth?
Title: Some news on Smackdown 3 "Just Bring It"
Post by: Bladez on May 22, 2001, 06:20:52 PM
Well I guess this forum has been put to rest. R.I.P 2001-2001.