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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: TheOgodlyThing on May 11, 2001, 05:59:53 PM
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Ok the RS2 screens for the GAMECUBE look nice but nothing compared to what the XBOX can handle just watch the new NEW AIRFORE DELTA video konami released just a couple days ago
http://www.kcestudios.com/ad2/images/ad2.mpg
Please watch this video, you will be blown away!!!!!!
This is an Amazing improvement over the other pics and video we saw of AFD2 at TGS. Incredible what can be accomplished in a few months. Just imagine what they will have, time launch comes round.
And don\'t forget that this is currently under a Phase2 dev kit which represents 50% of XBOX\'s power. Just wait till they get the NV2A
As for RS2, it doesn’t even compare to this game, in effects and realism.
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Eh, I really would rather wait until I\'ve seen more RS2 movies..
But yes, that movie is very impressive.
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I\'m trying really hard not to insult the fudge out of you so I\'ll just post what have to say in a mature fashion.
Take these facts into consideration-
-the RS2 pics do not feature bump-mapping, anti-aliasing, or advanced lighting.
-we have not since RS2 in action yet so a movie of this game might look a lot better(AirForce Delta looked like **** until I saw it in action.
-(main factor)there were very few objects on the screen. RS2 has tons of planes and ships which comsumes more of the Flipper\'s power and that makes this thread an unfair comparision.
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as I said JumpMan
And don\'t forget that this is currently under a Phase2 dev kit which represents 50% of XBOX\'s power. Just wait till they get the NV2A
I was making the point that even under incomplete Hardware AFD2 is the best looking game, Graphic wise than any other to date. Show me something better right now, GT3, MG2 etc.. do not look better graphical wise. You say RS2 isn\'t complete, nor is AFD2.
AnyHow E3 should be very interesting, it\'s too bad that we will not get to see games running on the NV2A at E3
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ungodly thing i think you are getting into the hype a bit too much... ive always heard this 50% of power... is it really a 50% loss??? keep in mind, many a people, even said that the x box is mostly hype...
im trying to keep you on the ground... yes it looks good. so does gt3..and mgs2. ace combat 4 looks nice( given, worse as of now thanthis game), and its no where near completion.. no movies have come out of the new rogue squadron, therefore nothing to compare the movie to.. try to stay "down to earth"
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While graphically this game may become the "GT3 of the air", there is really no comparing it to RS: 2. Right now the buildings in AD2 don\'t seem to come close to the the complexity of RS: 2. AD2\'s environment may jump leaps and bounds between now and launch but there is really no way to tell right now and considering that most flight games ignore structure-detail I am very skeptical.
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Well, that game\'s planes looks very, very nice. At the same time, the most complex scene in it, is an a10 hitting two tanks, in a canyon (straight walled), so overall, I don\'t think it\'s that impressive. I would like to see a simmilar scene of a couple of those planes fighting 10-15 other planes, flying through a city with all sorts of stuff shooting around them....
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you really cant compare a fantasy Arcade sim to a Fighter sim - i mean there is too many differences in gameplay - which people have pointed out
i just think people choose the worng things to compare when they choose the graphics department
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
AnyHow E3 should be very interesting, it\'s too bad that we will not get to see games running on the NV2A at E3
:rolleyes:*sigh*Will we ever? If not E3 then when? If they can\'t show games running on final hardware do you think they will launch on time?
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What I would find the funniest thing is that if when they change over to the final NV2A chipset, games crash... I can so totally see this happening with an MS product.. Today my IE crashed twice because I tried to open a second window while it was loading a page (stupid POS ... stupid unstable windows)... Yeah, yeah, I know it shouldn\'t ever be able to happen with a console, it\'s just MS has no skills when it comes to coding or driver making.
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Now ogodly thing hates gamecube. He should have his ass kicked. I will nock him to the floor. The filhy ****in **** **** **** eater mother ****ing ***** facist clown eates **** all the time we outta show that ****er what we are capable of!
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Yeah, yeah, I know it shouldn\'t ever be able to happen with a console, it\'s just MS has no skills when it comes to coding or driver making.
That\'s irrelevant, even Netscape crashes. I have never in my life ever seen any sort of computer software be 100% crash proof. Computers will always crash since they are designed to house a multiple variety of software. There it has nothing to do with MS. Imagine Sony making computer software, OUCH!!!!!! So that’s not a far comparison cause what you are really saying is they MS does not make top quality products. Well than ok let’s look at SONY products, CAN you say Garbage. There receivers, cd players, speakers, HT setup products etc.. are utter crap. Does that mean that there console fall under the same class, HELL NO, nor does the XBOX.
Anyhow I was quite DRUNK when posting this topic, I feel I gota little ahead of myself here. One more thing I feel I should mention. I have always been a die-hard fan of flight simulators, and AFD2 not being one of them, but instead an arcade, action style fighter, well doesn’t make me too happy. Nonetheless I would love to play or maybe even own this game.
It\'s really a GODAMN SHAME that pc flight Sims will takes years before they reach this sort of graphical wonder.
Now ogodly thing hates gamecube. He should have his ass kicked. I will nock him to the floor. The filhy ****in **** **** **** eater mother ****ing ***** facist clown eates **** all the time we outta show that ****er what we are capable of!
Hey DumbASS pull your head out of your ASS, I never said I hated the GC. Funny you say that when I planned months ago to pre order GC along with XBAUX. LOL
Get your facts straight before you blabber your mouth off. RS2 looks good, I even mention that in the beginning of the thread, if you bothered to read it. But as of right now from the current info that is avalible AFD2 is the best looking game.
Man you have real hatred towadrs the XBOX, it\'s only a console, it wont kill you my friend. Damn you also have a real bad mouth.
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Originally posted by Gohan
:rolleyes:*sigh*Will we ever? If not E3 then when? If they can\'t show games running on final hardware do you think they will launch on time?
They will launch on time definitely. It doesn\'t matter that these games were done on uncomplete kits, cause it\'s XB\'s potential when dev\'s use full kits that\'s the exciting thing. Although I\'m happy with what I\'ve seen on the unfinished kits...
FatalXception-nVidias chipset isn\'t produced by MS. If that were to happen (quite unprobable) it would be nVidias fault.
animal-damn nigga, calm down
Ogodly-The 2 games are pretty different, there\'s no reason to compare these 2 games. AC4 vs AFD2 is somthing you can compare though. And don\'t blame a lame thread on any controlled substances. Your stupid ass posted it, no excuses.
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Your stupid ass posted it, no excuses.
Well, well , well looks who talking "ETHUGG" You have not an ounce of credibility to be judging me
I never made any excuse, just a reason to the nature of my thread, nothing more. Don\'t come in here acting all-noble and wise all of a sudden LOL. Besides I have no regrets for this thread, if you use your brain and your eyes together you can actually go back and read what I said.
Anyhow I was quite DRUNK when posting this topic, I feel I got a little ahead of myself here.
In translation, it says i might have over blown the situation a little, but my point still stands out, nothing has changed.
So my stupid ass is it. If that\'s how you want it then so be it.
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"Imagine Sony making computer software, OUCH!!!!!!" - TheOGodlyThing
Actually, I\'ve used Sony\'s community place browser quite extensively while trying to figure out weither it might have any relevance to Sony\'s future online plans. (I think it does, but it\'s all just speculation given the facts) Never once has it crashed on me or given me problems in the slightest bit. Granted, due to bandwith limitations VRML sites are extreemely few and far between so the variety and chances of the program going unstable are limited. Then again, try to run any Beta Microsoft Internet Explorer version on only a few websites and I\'ll bet it crashes much more often given the latent instability of their other products. (Though I have no proof to back me up)
You are right in saying that no computer is 100% crash proof. Even Unix systems go down on occassion. However the frequency and severity of the crashes are what cause many people to curse Microsoft\'s name. I\'ve never heard any Linux or Mac user refer to their OS\'s downward sprial so lovingly as to give it a name like "The Blue screen of Death".
Noone\'s perfect, but Microsoft should be putting out more stable OS\'s if they\'d like to have a more positive consumer image. End of story.
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WOW! That movie has blown me away! Anyone who is not impressed by that is in denial or something. It truely looks awesome! I can\'t wait to see the final game. This generation will bring on some very, very good looking games! How about stopping the whining and enjoying it?
BTW Animal Mother, calm down. We can\'t have that sort of language here. Thank you.
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Ive seen a small bit of the video (56.6) and it looks pretty good.
But I still prefer AC4 :)
I think AC4 still has better graphics in some areas.
And, NO. I wasnt blown away. :)
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
as I said JumpMan
I was making the point that even under incomplete Hardware AFD2 is the best looking game, Graphic wise than any other to date. Show me something better right now, GT3, MG2 etc.. do not look better graphical wise. You say RS2 isn\'t complete, nor is AFD2.
Ok, now your comparasions are just getting ridiculous. AFD2 had one or two pretty ships and ordinary backrounds. GT3 has around 6 cars on screen, weather effects, lighting, physics, etc. MGS2 has...blah blah it\'s a third-person/FP shooter/spy game which already makes it totally incomparable. AC4 for PS2 is the only game that you can truly compare this game to and there isn\'t a graphical difference between those two games.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Ok, now your comparasions are just getting ridiculous. AFD2 had one or two pretty ships and ordinary backrounds. GT3 has around 6 cars on screen, weather effects, lighting, physics, etc. MGS2 has...blah blah it\'s a third-person/FP shooter/spy game which already makes it totally incomparable. AC4 for PS2 is the only game that you can truly compare this game to and there isn\'t a graphical difference between those two games.
I must agree with jumpy here.
Cuz he\'s right..
But I can see a difference in the two games.
AC4 has better looking fighters IMO :D
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Man you have real hatred towadrs the XBOX, it\'s only a console, it wont kill you my friend. Damn you also have a real bad mouth.
Perhaps my bad mouth belonged in the off topic forum... I don\'t hate Xbox, but I hate YOU. I am going to get a Gamecube the day it comes out, and I\'ll wait and see what happens when Xbox comes out. I have everything I need for the "18-25" market with my DC and PS2 and PC. I don\'t need an Xbox. Waste of money if you ask me, graphics or no graphics, matrix or no matrix. Sony could have bribed interplay instead of M$. They must have somethin good up their sleeves
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they should have somthing up their sleeves.. both nintendo and sony. for e3..
lately i have begun wondering how the x box will survive... its coming out the same time as gamecube... ps2 and gamecube will be around 200$ at that time, while x box most defenatly will be at 300$.. they just can afford to take huge losses.. cuz then if it fails, they will have to bite the bullet...
i heard one of the 9 or so final dev kits crashed and would not work again...
That means their are BUGS... nintendo was smart and had their final dev kits given out early.. while microsoft is rushing..... i think there will be problems and thats not good, microsoft has a reputation of that...
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Originally posted by fastson
Ive seen a small bit of the video (56.6) and it looks pretty good.
But I still prefer AC4 :)
I think AC4 still has better graphics in some areas.
And, NO. I wasnt blown away. :)
Hmm... I have this weird feeling that if this was a PS2 game you\'d say it looked awesome, but because it\'s Xbox you won\'t admit that it\'s really good looking. Come on, Sony isn\'t paying you money to stick to their console. Don\'t be such a fanboy and enjoy the wonders of gaming Fastson. :)
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No way I think AFD2 is PIMP!!!! Alot better than AceCombat.
Originally posted by AnimalMother
... I don\'t hate Xbox
Yes you do FANBOY and everyone here knows it. Should i even bother to post the links to the threads in which to prove my point, I THOUGHT SO.
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Go ahead. And you sure a stupid. Don\'t call me things that you are. YOU ARE AN XBOX FANBOY AND YOU KNOW IT. Don\'t make me post threads to proove it... You even got banned for you crap. And you said you would never come back. You are a looser.
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Well please then why would an XBOX FANBOY like myself have a PSX2, hummmm. I mean if I hated the thing so much why would I had bought one.
I\'ll tell you why,
1.GT3
2.MG2 and hopefully some others in the future. No Animal take a deep breath and close your eyes and say, this is only a forum, words cannot hurt me, nor get me upset.
Go ahead. And you sure a stupid.
LOL, speak of the DEVIL, you just threw away every last ounce of self intelligence you had left, I’ll tell you what. I’ll give you this opportunity to redeem some self respect back . Analyze what you just said in accordance to the point in which you tried to come across and tell me where you went wrong. I know you can do it Animal, I believe in you, may my faith be with you.
And you said you would never come back. You are a looser.
When did I say that, if I’m not mistaken I believe I said I would not come back for quite some time, which indeed was true cause if you have forgotten(which you obviously have, in which makes your comment look just as stupid as you" no pun intended\') I had stayed away from these forums for mouths. Then one day like I said, I returned.
But remember Animal there is a whole new world out side of your computer, GO out to the beach, party with some girls, don\'t take the forums so seriously. It\'s all good, hell this Console debating. (i am in no way angry at any of this it\'s like a little tad tale to me, i just go along with the story, sometimes you have to play along with it)
Let me ask you guys a question, if everybody here agreed on everything then this place would be extremely boring. Opposing views and the conflicts it leads to is what it\'s all about, but in a respectful manner.
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AC4 for PS2 is the only game that you can truly compare this game to and there isn\'t a graphical difference between those two games.
Did you even watch the new video\'s that were released. I think not, go back to the begining of the thread i posted the link there. Good DAY TO YOU SIR
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Well, well , well looks who talking "ETHUGG" You have not an ounce of credibility to be judging me
I never made any excuse, just a reason to the nature of my thread, nothing more. Don\'t come in here acting all-noble and wise all of a sudden LOL. Besides I have no regrets for this thread, if you use your brain and your eyes together you can actually go back and read what I said.
In translation, it says i might have over blown the situation a little, but my point still stands out, nothing has changed.
So my stupid ass is it. If that\'s how you want it then so be it.
Perhaps you missed what I said and should take your own advise. These are 2 very different games, and video vs magazine scans.... the entire basis of this thread is moronic at best. And whether or not you think I have credibility or not is inconsiqential to me, I\'ll blast your ass the same as anyone else, whether your an XB fanboy or not. And what do you mean \'noble and wise all of a sudden\'? I\'ve always been wise and I\'ll comment on a stupid fanboy post regardless of the type of fanboy. You certainly seem to be a fanboy. Whether or not that\'s true, this thread was lame, and I said as much. Get over it, I\'ll keep saying posts are lame when they are, and nothing you say or do will stop me. I haven\'t dissed your other threads, so it should be obvious that this isn\'t personal.
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Why is everyone *****ing about this, if you don\'t like the thread then ignore it, but to come in here and waste your time try to prove that someone posted a worthless thread puts you in a no better postion ETHUGG.
Anyhow that\'s my 2 Cents
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so it should be obvious that this isn\'t personal
Glad we got that cleared up, oh and you being Wise, don\'t forget Ethugg i have been to these forums ever since they first opened, so i don\'t know who your trying fool.
he, he
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Glad we got that cleared up, oh and you being Wise, don\'t forget Ethugg i have been to these forums ever since they first opened, so i don\'t know who your trying fool.
he, he
Me? Try to fool? Naaaawwww.....
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oh by the way i can\'t remember but i was surfing the net and came across some comic site and i saw an animated gif if GHOSTRIDER. I will try and remeber where it was
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You know I wonder how an X-BOX Rogue Squadron 2 version would compare to the GC version? Or how would a GC AFD version compare to the X-BOX version? Hhhmmmmmm.....vveeerrry.....interesting....... "yes, Dr. frankenstein.... lets run the test......muhahahahahaha!!"
Then again, will Rogue Squadron 2 ever come to the X-BOX and will AFD make an appearance on the Gamecube?
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I actually remember a thread AnimalMother started one time where he stated his INTENT to buy a XBox. So quit hatin.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Well please then why would an XBOX FANBOY like myself have a PSX2, hummmm. I mean if I hated the thing so much why would I had bought one.
You haven\'t got a PS2 ! ...even a monkey could type correctly PS2(and not PSX2)...look at the logo :laughing:
You are not an X-Box FanBoy...You are simply a Troll !
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Originally posted by BizioEE
You haven\'t got a PS2 ! ...even a monkey could type correctly PS2(and not PSX2)...look at the logo :laughing:
You are not an X-Box FanBoy...You are simply a Troll !
Um... you do remember this site is called PSX2Central, right? :)
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Originally posted by BizioEE
You haven\'t got a PS2 ! ...even a monkey could type correctly PS2(and not PSX2)...look at the logo :laughing:
You are not an X-Box FanBoy...You are simply a Troll !
Chill man. Who poured soup down your underwear?
The graphics on the video didn\'t impress me all that much. Personally, I think Konami could have done more. But that\'s just my opinion.
We\'ll all see what happens at E3... just a few days away!!
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I actually remember a thread AnimalMother started one time where he stated his INTENT to buy a XBox. So quit hatin.
Good for you, I suggest you go back and do a search, then you will see what i\'m talking about, hell one the mod even said the same thing about it.
Um... you do remember this site is called PSX2Central, right?
I hope BizioEE wakes up and realizes this, considering that he has been comming here for very long time.
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Originally posted by Samwise
Um... you do remember this site is called PSX2Central, right? :)
The site is PSX2Central...The Black Beast is called PS2...not PSX2...
...However I was only joking...
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I think people ***** too much about who is better.
Who gives a rats ass.
The PS2 will kick ass
GC will kick ass
Xbox will kick ass
Pick one, Pick 2 or even by all 3 with a side of DC
just stop the stupidity
All these game all look fantastic
end of story
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Originally posted by ddaryl
I think people ***** too much about who is better.
Who gives a rats ass.
The PS2 will kick ass
GC will kick ass
Xbox will kick ass
Pick one, Pick 2 or even by all 3 with a side of DC
just stop the stupidity
All these game all look fantastic
end of story
yea but if people did this then there would be no console debating forum:D
but i actually feel the same way - i am tired of the same arguments being used everytime a game from on console is compared to another and what not
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yeah i im startin to realize that its better not to compare games to games... but just sit back and have some fun in the best time for gaming.