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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: NVIDIA256 on May 12, 2001, 02:30:22 PM
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If this is the best that Jason RUBIN can do, then i\'m laughing my ass off, That guy was bragging about how top secret his game was, hyping it all up to be this killer app, and what do we have a sheer dissapointment.
Here is the trailer to his game
http://www.naughtydog.com/movies/teaser160.mov
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LOL NVIDIA256, lets wait until this E3 until we get some real gameplay footage of the game instead of that teaser that Naughty Dog put up. They probably don\'t want to show everything just yet or they wouldn\'t have anything for E3 (like 182Ways said on the main forum).
And if it does turn out to be a huge disappointment, I\'m just glad I wasn\'t one of those PS2 fanboys. :)
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That trailer takes long to download
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
That trailer takes long to download
No kidding. I want to make sure I get a good idea of what the game so my poor 56k is smoking out the ears over this 50meg file. :/
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it\'s only like 9.7 megs but the download time is slow man.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
it\'s only like 9.7 megs but the download time is slow man.
That is the dinky grainy one. After all that Jason Rubin has said against the Xbox and Oddworld I want to get a clear picture of what his game is and see just how well he can back up is yapping (ohh... a unintentional pun!) therefore I get to struggle over the huge file.
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IGN has them uploaded onto their server, so you can download them faster from there.
http://ps2.ign.com/news/34462.html
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Thanks Ironfist... you just cut the time in half! :)
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While the video quality wasn\'t good, the game looked nice. Seems to have a Rayman/Munch sorta look to it... which isn\'t a bad thing. I love platformers....
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
If this is the best that Jason RUBIN can do, then i\'m laughing my ass off, That guy was bragging about how top secret his game was, hyping it all up to be this killer app, and what do we have a sheer dissapointment.
Here is the trailer to his game
http://www.naughtydog.com/movies/teaser160.mov
It\'s Still an earily movie of the game after all.....
You know games don\'t start of looking great you know , all games go through what is known as a DEVELOPMENT cycle.
this is where an idea is placed and a games engine is developend as well as story and additional material (sound Motion capture etc....)
from this we move slowly onto play testing the earily code with in house play testers ....
Feed back is supplyed from the play tresting and gameplay is tweeked......
the next stage once the BASICs are completed is the addition and refinement of grapichs, animation and sound.
again at the end of this stage its handed over to the play testers and feed back is used.........
now either aT this stage or BEFORE details of the game is leaked to the PRess, in this cas seeingthat it is a ....
SECRET PROJECT !<====== KEY WORDS DUMM @Sss......
we are seeing the earily stages of development, with basic graphics and sound, this is where the concept of the game is being developed before the addition of all the aspects that we see within the game.........
now i know i am not here at the Forum 24 hours but i have to say that people here have been INTRESTED in this game and have not be fooled by (to use your poor words ) HYPE......
Please Please take this to HEART because if you continue to post tile this you will be given the Troll Status and maybe even banned.
if you want to share your "views" with like minded people then i sujest you visit and stay with this site.
http://www.msxbox.com
Because that site is full of fanboys and trolls , and you KNOW YOURSELF that you will fit right in there :rolleyes:.
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Originally posted by ooseven
It\'s Still an earily movie of the game after all.....
You know games don\'t start of looking great you know , all games go through what is known as a DEVELOPMENT cycle.
this is where an idea is placed and a games engine is developend as well as story and additional material (sound Motion capture etc....)
from this we move slowly onto play testing the earily code with in house play testers ....
Feed back is supplyed from the play tresting and gameplay is tweeked......
the next stage once the BASICs are completed is the addition and refinement of grapichs, animation and sound.
again at the end of this stage its handed over to the play testers and feed back is used.........
now either aT this stage or BEFORE details of the game is leaked to the PRess, in this cas seeingthat it is a ....
SECRET PROJECT !<====== KEY WORDS DUMM @Sss......
we are seeing the earily stages of development, with basic graphics and sound, this is where the concept of the game is being developed before the addition of all the aspects that we see within the game.........
now i know i am not here at the Forum 24 hours but i have to say that people here have been INTRESTED in this game and have not be fooled by (to use your poor words ) HYPE......
Please Please take this to HEART because if you continue to post tile this you will be given the Troll Status and maybe even banned.
if you want to share your "views" with like minded people then i sujest you visit and stay with this site.
http://www.msxbox.com
Because that site is full of fanboys and trolls , and you KNOW YOURSELF that you will fit right in there :rolleyes:.
WOW you sure like to shoot yourself in the foot. Oh so many where waving and screaming how this naughty dawg game was going to be so awesome. And the first footage of the game is not that impressive. And what do you say. It\'s Still an earily movie of the game after all..... Oh nobody could say that when you where taking shots at microsoft TGS line up of games. Oh it\'s early in development. It is ok to use that excuse for a ps2 game, but oh no show a ms game that is 20% done and not even on final hardware and that game sucks before it is even finished. Then ps2 shows a game and it ok because it is not even done. Just another double standard set bye a video game fanboys. (excuse me ps2 fanboys)
In future referense don\'t set standards on one thing and not on another.
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00Seven, you said it! msxbox.com, the place for every x-boy super fanboy, come and join........
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Ethugg:
I totally don\'t get your standards. You though that this trailer looked nice? With the exception of the smoke effect, the whole thing was pretty ****ty, and I hope a very early build.
You know, I think maybe Ethugg posts the opposite point of view from the title of the post, no matter what the subject content is.
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Originally posted by ooseven
now i know i am not here at the Forum 24 hours but i have to say that people here have been INTRESTED in this game and have not be fooled by (to use your poor words ) HYPE......
I have to disagree with you on that one. In just about every thread in which an Xbox or Nintendo zealot downed the PS2 lineup lots of people would mention Naughty Dog\'s "secret" game as an upcoming AAA title in the same breath as MGS2. Now I am not saying thet it will be a bad game or anything but most of the people were fooled by the hype. You can\'t call a game a future AAA w/o ever seeing one screenshot. That is just how it goes. Even w/ MGS2 and Shenmue there were at least videos and screenshots out before people started calling them one of God\'s gifts to gaming.
Peace and Love
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some informants have said thatthe game is now running at 19mpps... a feat to behold..and that naughty dog wants to have the game running at 21 mpps while at60FPS... if this turns out to be true....i want it.:)
i bet sony gave them hints on how to use their system... i think that would be like the only way this early to push that many polygons. jeez... technology is crazy.!!
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some informants have said thatthe game is now running at 19mpps... a feat to behold..and that naughty dog wants to have the game running at 21 mpps while at60FPS... if this turns out to be true....i want it.
Slap!!! Then Jason BIG mouth RUBIN woke up.
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Maybe someone should tell Rubin to lay off the Everclear. That stuff\'s kinda strong. :)
Seriously though, I doubt that Naughty Dog could have achieved 20mpps in-game this early in the PS2\'s life. If they have however, they\'ll give Nintendo and MS a huge run for their money.
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Originally posted by FatalXception
Ethugg:
I totally don\'t get your standards. You though that this trailer looked nice? With the exception of the smoke effect, the whole thing was pretty ****ty, and I hope a very early build.
You know, I think maybe Ethugg posts the opposite point of view from the title of the post, no matter what the subject content is.
I took into account the quality of the game, and tried to judge fairly based on the poor quality of Quicktime movies, esp. this one which even with the 50mb file obviously was a poor representation of the games obviously brilliant looking visuals and design. No, I don\'t usually argue unless I actually feel that way. I think this game looks promising, look past the poor compression of the video, and I think you would agree.
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Not the best looking graphics I\'ve ever seen, but I think it looks kind of cool.
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I have noticed a double standard on these boards. After GameStock all the PS2 fanboys took cheap shots at early Xbox games on unfinished hardware. However, when Xbox fans take a jab at early PS2 games on FINISHED hardware something\'s wrong. I think a lesson should be learned from this, don\'t judge a game until it\'s finished.
About the 19 mpps, from what I saw in the trailer, the game doesn\'t even break 10 mpps. Those polygon numbers came from the fanboy cesspool otherwise known as the IGN forums, so don\'t bolster your arguments with that. The game looks like a souped-up N64 game. I thought the GC was the "kiddy" system and that ND was going for a more "mature" game. There\'s still hope though, maybe the game will have sex, violence and bad language a la Conker\'s Bad Fur Day! :D
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*sigh*
Bullpup! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by ooseven
SECRET PROJECT !<====== KEY WORDS DUMM @Sss......
we are seeing the earily stages of development, with basic graphics and sound, this is where the concept of the game is being developed before the addition of all the aspects that we see within the game.........
now i know i am not here at the Forum 24 hours but i have to say that people here have been INTRESTED in this game and have not be fooled by (to use your poor words ) HYPE......
Please Please take this to HEART because if you continue to post tile this you will be given the Troll Status and maybe even banned.
if you want to share your "views" with like minded people then i sujest you visit and stay with this site.
http://www.msxbox.com
Because that site is full of fanboys and trolls , and you KNOW YOURSELF that you will fit right in there .
what a load of BOLLOCKS. This old chap needs to be put on a leash.
"Ring, Ring whats that" oh it\'s TEA and Biscuit time 00seven, hurry, hurry now.
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Originally posted by ooseven
It\'s Still an earily movie of the game after all.....
You know games don\'t start of looking great you know , all games go through what is known as a DEVELOPMENT cycle.
this is where an idea is placed and a games engine is developend as well as story and additional material (sound Motion capture etc....)
from this we move slowly onto play testing the earily code with in house play testers ....
Feed back is supplyed from the play tresting and gameplay is tweeked......
the next stage once the BASICs are completed is the addition and refinement of grapichs, animation and sound.
again at the end of this stage its handed over to the play testers and feed back is used.........
now either aT this stage or BEFORE details of the game is leaked to the PRess, in this cas seeingthat it is a ....
SECRET PROJECT !<====== KEY WORDS DUMM @Sss......
we are seeing the earily stages of development, with basic graphics and sound, this is where the concept of the game is being developed before the addition of all the aspects that we see within the game.........
now i know i am not here at the Forum 24 hours but i have to say that people here have been INTRESTED in this game and have not be fooled by (to use your poor words ) HYPE......
Please Please take this to HEART because if you continue to post tile this you will be given the Troll Status and maybe even banned.
if you want to share your "views" with like minded people then i sujest you visit and stay with this site.
http://www.msxbox.com
Because that site is full of fanboys and trolls , and you KNOW YOURSELF that you will fit right in there :rolleyes:.
I don\'t think anyone should be defending Rubin or his game along those lines. He choose the playing field with the jabs he made after GameStock knowing full well it was early software on unfinished dev kits.
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Originally posted by ho3j
I don\'t think anyone should be defending Rubin or his game along those lines. He choose the playing field with the jabs he made after GameStock knowing full well it was early software on unfinished dev kits.
As much as I hate Rubin, that doesn\'t excuse dissing a promising game over poor internet video....
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Originally posted by EThugg
As much as I hate Rubin, that doesn\'t excuse dissing a promising game over poor internet video....
Hmmm.... still have to disagree. This guy has made some very ugly comments about the competitors and has hyped game in the same breath. If he gets burnt for not delivering a product that out does Xbox games then there is no one to blame but himself.
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Originally posted by ho3j
Hmmm.... still have to disagree. This guy has made some very ugly comments about the competitors and has hyped game in the same breath. If he gets burnt for not delivering a product that out does Xbox games then there is no one to blame but himself.
When we see good video or screens, if it falls short I\'d agree, but I\'m saying at this point, with the little we\'ve seen it\'s unfair. If you need to diss something right now, diss ND\'s poor video capturing. :D
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well personally i don\'t ever expect much from Naughty Dog - they have never seemed to really get me hooked on their games or anything
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GOD Damn it i should learn not to post this end ofthe forum.
Console Debating = The Bum part of our Fair City
ok lets clear a few things up( which will prove everything i have said! ) .
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- The PRODUCTION shots where taken from a MPEG of Game being tested at its earily stage
- Even though i have not been here for 24 hours, noone who isn\'t worth listening to has done nothing but Hype this project, while NORMAL members have comented on this game (idiots hype Members didn\'t).
- and even if you don\'t like that well go and F$^& yourselfs i wont take back what i said !
oh and on the subject
Originally posted by XBOX
WOW you sure like to shoot yourself in the foot. Oh so many where waving and screaming how this naughty dawg game was going to be so awesome. And the first footage of the game is not that impressive. And what do you say. It\'s Still an earily movie of the game after all..... Oh nobody could say that when you where taking shots at microsoft TGS line up of games. Oh it\'s early in development. It is ok to use that excuse for a ps2 game, but oh no show a ms game that is 20% done and not even on final hardware and that game sucks before it is even finished. Then ps2 shows a game and it ok because it is not even done. Just another double standard set bye a video game fanboys. (excuse me ps2 fanboys)
In future referense don\'t set standards on one thing and not on another.
how much of a fanboy do you sound at the moment, GET A LIFE !
The only reason why i stuck up for this game was because the pictures we had (and Mpeg for that matter) where of very poor veiwing quality, now if you downloaded and viewed it like the rest of us then you would of found that out.
It would be diffrent if they released still pictures that where toughed up by paint shop pro...........
iam joking i am joking don\'t flame you sad low life, now their i was being serious...........
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on the other hand we have this well educated individual
QUOTE]Originally posted by ho3j
I don\'t think anyone should be defending Rubin or his game along those lines. He choose the playing field with the jabs he made after GameStock knowing full well it was early software on unfinished dev kits. [/QUOTE]
True but when you look at it we are looking at a rough movie with prity basic graphics, What Rubin did or did not do is between him and Gamestock , thats forthem to settle after all.
Even if you HATE him , why hold somethign against his product......
If you liked a product but hated the person that made it , well then, no one would buy Genesis Albums seeing that Phil Colins was with them for soo long :laughing:.....
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and then there\'s TheOgodlyThing
Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
what a load of BOLLOCKS. This old chap needs to be put on a leash.
"Ring, Ring whats that" oh it\'s TEA and Biscuit time 00seven, hurry, hurry now.
Thanks mate after that bashing from "Xbox" (need i say more) you made me Laugh well done mate.......
you win the Agent top dog award for this week :D.
P.S.
I Prefer Coffee to TEA ;).
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Originally posted by ooseven
True but when you look at it we are looking at a rough movie with prity basic graphics, What Rubin did or did not do is between him and Gamestock , thats forthem to settle after all.
Even if you HATE him , why hold somethign against his product......
If you liked a product but hated the person that made it , well then, no one would buy Genesis Albums seeing that Phil Colins was with them for soo long :laughing:.....
I think you are taking this too seriously. :) This is like the Coach of team "A" saying something along the lines of ,"I have seen team B practicing and those boys couldn\'t catch a ball to saves their lives, they are no competition". If that coach\'s team fails to out do team "B" in practice one cannot help but crack a grin. It is not about console vs console or game vs game (I may very well buy the game if it is good), it is just about seeing Rubin back-peddle on his numerous, hopelessly arrogant statements.
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Thanks mate after that bashing from "Xbox" (need i say more) you made me Laugh well done mate
No problem mate, no hard feelings . I see you have a sense of humor, a rare quality amongst some people.
you win the Agent top dog award for this week
That reminds me of that cartoon show from Jim Henson with the dog who\'s a dective.
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yeah rubin tends to do that, i got somthing off the ign boards that had him flaunting about his console... he is too full of himself and naughty dog, just cuz they have ties with sony dosent mean a thing to us gamers, but it apparently does to him:)
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It is not about console vs console or game vs game (I may very well buy the game if it is good), it is just about seeing Rubin back-peddle on his numerous, hopelessly arrogant statements.
Bravo!!! Very well-said Hoj3, that\'s pretty much the nature of this thread. in others words i posted this thread for those whom know of rubin well and his little comments. It was never about which game is better etc.., instead to put the spot light on rubin so that people could see him put his foot right in his mouth.
Hey who knows the game could turn out to be decent, but i will **** my paints and jump off a building if he get\'s that game running at 19mpps with all effects on.
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Can we please make peace over this after all no one like a flame war after all.
i think its safe to say that we all have fallen for Hype and bias in one form or another.........
please remember kids they are JUST games after all........
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I have read Rubin\'s claims, and thought about the movie that they posted, and I have come to the conclusion that that movie is not from the most updated version of their game. Rubin hyped it a lot. I don\'t think anyone is stupid enough to hype it up that much without actually pulling through.
This E3 I am expecting a better looking version of the game, and definately better quality movies and pics. :)
And if I\'m wrong, bring on Tekken 4, MK5, VF4, and DOA3! :D
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Originally posted by IronFist
I have read Rubin\'s claims, and thought about the movie that they posted, and I have come to the conclusion that that movie is not from the most updated version of their game. Rubin hyped it a lot. I don\'t think anyone is stupid enough to hype it up that much without actually pulling through.
This E3 I am expecting a better looking version of the game, and definately better quality movies and pics. :)
True, but if Rubin can\'t deliver what he has promist, i think he should do a Forfeit in front of everyone at E3.
Hey if there\'s no improment maybe we can get the man to strip naked ,bark like a dog and lick Bill Gates Boots.......
:laughing:.............
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ooseven,,, you are really down to earth lately...
whats going on thats making you this way???
just damn tired of fightin\'?
oh well. plz dont hurt yourself, your a good member..:D
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Personally, I don\'t have faith in Naughty Dog. Don\'t get me wrong, I think the Crash games was excellent and I am a huge fan of the series, but other then that, they have done NOTHING to prove they are capable of pulling of a new generation game. And the Crash series was not the most original ideas, lets face it. It was rather basic and even Rubin knew that. There is no doubt they was addicitive, but still, that doesn\'t prove they are ready to step up to the plate .
From what I saw, I was not impressed. But, at the same time, this is very poor quality video and I truly doubt Rubin is goin\' to show us the good stuff with E3 so close. Instead, he is using this merely as hype. So, there is still good reason to believe that E3 will hold awesome footage of "Project Y".
But, on a note. If "Project Y" does look bad, then Rubin is going to find himself being fired at from everyone. After the nasty comments he has went and made constantly, he won\'t be able to claim that it was because of PS2 programming difficulties or what not.
E3 better hold some awesome footage, otherwise its going to be a big problem for Sony and Naughty Dog.
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Originally posted by Falcon4
ooseven,,, you are really down to earth lately...
whats going on thats making you this way???
just damn tired of fightin\'?
oh well. plz dont hurt yourself, your a good member..:D
its ok mate i am ok thanks.....
it\'s just that i am now a wise member so i thopugh i better start to act like one :D.
Plus i don\'t want to be branded a X box hater......
i quite like it
it\'s just the fact that i don\'t want tobuy oneseeing i havespent sooo much money on my PS2.............
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from the video I saw it was just a tease I\'m still stoked for ND\'s official Unveiling
Everything I could make out in the vid was looking pretty cool
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I assume a "tease" is meant to be just that and fully expect the ND team to back up Jason Rubin\'s big mouth within the next few days. The only ones who will be disappointed are those hoping to see Rubin fall flat on his face.
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I knew it would suck all along, i never gave in to the hype, I have always thought naughty dog was a crappy developer