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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: TheMistaWhoKnow on May 14, 2001, 09:10:22 PM
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Um... to those crybabies who said GT3 was the end of the world... start saving your money. Xbox is here baby!
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I would still take GT3 over that racer.
GT3 is a very deep, very cool racing simulator. The whole GT3 package on top of the kick ass graphics makes GT3 a AAA game
Also your under some dellusion that all PS2 owners hate Xbox. Alot of people hate MS, or prefer Sony and Nintendo
You\'ll find that there are a fairly decent amount of fans here that are looking forward to Xbox including myself
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
p.s. i dont think those pics do beat gran tourismo...it may when its released though
My opinion exactly. It still has a ways to go before its graphics beat those of GT3.
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It\'s not the graphics that make the GT series anyways -- it\'s the gameplay. No other racer has the level of detail that the GT series has, and unless this Xbox game has an equal amount of custumizability(whoo, long word. :)), it doesn\'t even compare in my book.
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Ih Ih TheMistaWhoKnow...start saving your money to make a booking in a mental hospital :D
Game-Play is what makes a game a masterpiece or a crappy game...GT3 is a masterpiece,hands down:D...and this game? well...I don\'t know...maybe a Crappy game...maybe a decent game...let\'s wait and see...however GT3 beats it graphically !
(...the first and third shot are "in Game" and they are nothing special!)
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Originally posted by BizioEE
Ih Ih TheMistaWhoKnow...start saving your money to make a booking in a mental hospital :D
Game-Play is what makes a game a masterpiece or a crappy game...GT3 is a masterpiece,hands down:D...and this game? well...I don\'t know...maybe a Crappy game...maybe a decent game...let\'s wait and see...however GT3 beats it graphically !
(...the first and third shot are "in Game" and they are nothing special!)
I always considered you a retard, BizioEE...
If you couldn\'t understand from the post, I was commenting on the graphics. Did I ever mention gameplay? I don\'t think so. So shut your trap and stop yappin\' before you think.
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Originally posted by BizioEE
(...the first and third shot are "in Game" and they are nothing special!)
Hmmm, but the second Project Gotham pic is as \'ingame\' as many of those hundreds of GT3 pics! ;)
The car model (and reflections) in that pic looks awesome!
Anyway, it\'s still too early to judge this game, however there can be know doubt that it has definately improved since the first pics were shown, and will continue to do so until launch.
I doubt it\'s a GT3 killer in general, since it\'s probably a different type of racing game (more MSR than GT3), hence it may be just as good but different.
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LOL!
That game does not come close to the quality of GT3 graphics!
And I bet that game has the same unrealisic feeling like NFS series has.
Very crappy coronas btw!
GT3 is still in da lead!
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Originally posted by fastson
LOL!
That game does not come close to the quality of GT3 graphics!
And I bet that game has the same unrealisic feeling like NFS series has.
Very crappy coronas btw!
GT3 is still in da lead!
And this opinion based on your VAST EXPERIENCE PLAYING THIS GAME???
Stop being such a fanboy. Remember at Gamestock when this game was barely four weeks old, and how it looked like? Look at the progress they have made! Just imagine, in a few more months, what more they can do!
Fastson, enjoy the graphics for what it is and stop commenting on the gameplay as you have never played the game.
Graphically, in my opinion, it looks better than GT3. You are entitled to your OWN opinions.
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Originally posted by TheMistaWhoKnow
And this opinion based on your VAST EXPERIENCE PLAYING THIS GAME???
Stop being such a fanboy. Remember at Gamestock when this game was barely four weeks old, and how it looked like? Look at the progress they have made! Just imagine, in a few more months, what more they can do!
Fastson, enjoy the graphics for what it is and stop commenting on the gameplay as you have never played the game.
Graphically, in my opinion, it looks better than GT3. You are entitled to your OWN opinions.
Yes I remember Gamestock. The game didnt look so good then.
It looks abit better now.
Maybe thats because these screens are so dark.
You can hide stuff in the dark you know :eek: ;)
Yes everyone is entitled to there own opinions :)
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Originally posted by TheMistaWhoKnow
Stop being such a fanboy.
Your the one being a fanboy coming here and telling us to save our money for a Xbox.
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Originally posted by Vulcan Raven
Your the one being a fanboy coming here and telling us to save our money for a Xbox.
Would you prefer I tell you to save your money for a Gamecube?
Had I said "Xbox will rule no matter what. PS2 Sux period", then I would be a fanboy. I just told you to save your money moron. Go buy some PS2 games with it and make yourself happy. I personally think these screenshots look nice (better than GT3). I also think that Air Force Delta 3 on Xbox isn\'t as good as the Namco fighter on PS2 (based solely on screenshots). So how am I the fanboy again?
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TheMistaKnowHow, I hate to break it to you, but you are in the wrong bigtime. You said in the title that these pics blow away GT3.. and yet you tell Fastson to give the game a few months. Sure it\'s nit-picking, but it goes to show that you\'re not very consistent and makes it seem as though you\'re only posting these pics to get a rise out of GT3 and PS2 fans.
IMO, the graphics are gorgeous but not as good as GT3 just yet. There are a lot of effects that aren\'t complete, so it\'s natural that they can\'t compair with the effects in GT3. Little things like the realistic spray off the tires on a wet road or the way the light shines down from the streetlamps. Not to mention that the car models themselves (expeciall that BMW) don\'t look as proportionate and finely detailed as they are in GT3. Some of the effects you really can\'t infer from the screens anyhow because they aren\'t in motion.. like the way the car tilts on sharp turns. They just aren\'t quite up to par with Polypony\'s efforts yet.
Sorry, give the game another two months at least before trying to rub them in peoples faces. Even if all the effects and details I mentioned WERE visable in these pics, they still wouldn\'t "Blow Away" GT3.. they\'d just be on Par with it.
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Just imagine what this game will look like once it\'s finished and running on final hardware! :D
Anyway, we should have a better idea soon, since E3 is almost upon us!
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the racing game does not blow gt3 away (yet), but I must say those fever pics look quite good, especially the backgrounds
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Lol, these pics don\'t blow anything away.
That racing game is imo just the same as Rockstars
Midnight racing. Phew , yeah maybe the Graphx will
get a teeny weeny better. But not close to GT3.
But anyway that\'s not the point. Judging from those
pics, this game is not gonna be a serious sim as GT3
so saying this will outdo Gt3 is wrong.
The football game pics : those Madden NGC pics look
quite as good.
Knotter8
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Originally posted by Knotter8
Phew , yeah maybe the Graphx will
get a teeny weeny better. But not close to GT3.
The car + reflections in that second pic is awesome (looks even better when you save the pic and apply gamma correction to lighten it). Hence I look forward to seeing it in action at E3.
This game has improved alot since the early pics and will look even better upon release. Afterall, look at some of the early GT3 pics (when it was still GT2000) from the game after atleast 18 months in developement.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/story.cfm?sid=319
Therefore whilst I wouldn\'t say PG blows away GT3 right now, it does looks awesome for a game so early in it\'s developement. However yes, they will be very different games, so it wouldn\'t blow away GT3 as a sim, but it may do so as a racer. ;)
Originally posted by Knotter8
The football game pics : those Madden NGC pics look
quite as good.
The NGC Madden pics I\'ve seen are quite disappointing, and doesn\'t look as good as this XBox game IMO.
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Dr. Yassam,
GT3 and the whole GT series have come a long way. From start I was impressed by the lighting in even the
early pics. It look as if it is real sunlight complete with
atmospheric effects. So car shading alone doesn\'t cut it.
Also the XBOX racer pics are at night. Devs can get away
with things easier when the scene is at night, than broad daylight..... but we\'ll see when daylightpics of this
game arrive.
And as pointed out, this game looks to me as an arcade
racer ( which is good in it\'s own right ), but as DDaryl said Gt3 is a very deep sim which cannot be compared THAT easily.
BTW. Halo and Munch look miles ahead of these pics. (with the exception of those NFL fever pics )
Knotter8 :)
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But that\'s the point Knotter8, you\'re remembering GT2000/GT3 pics from a list of about 57,000 pics (joking) released onto the internet. These show a range of cars in a number of environments with numerous effects.
In contrast, we\'ve seen VERY few PG pics (the first were daytime BTW), since the game is just months into developement.
The first showing of GT2000 was during the Sony announcement of the PS2, and the demo was ALSO at night BTW with overly shiny cars!!! Recently I found pics of GT2000 from mid-late 1999 (lost the link right now), and they were far from impressive and had none of the sunlight effects seen in the game after 18 months of developement.
PG still has a LONG way to go. Sure Halo and Munch may look more impressive, but remind yourself, how long have these games been in developement!?!?! :)
Where I agree with you (and others) is that it will not be a driving sim like GT3 and therefore cannot be compared in the same way.
Anyway, I\'m sure you\'re looking forward to E3 as much as I am, so I\'ll leave this topic for now.
Enjoy the show!!!! :D
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Yeah that\'s what I said Dr. Yassam, let\'s wait till I
see some decent daylight pics of this game.
I always find kinda hard to judge night shots. To be honest I haven\'t seen many daylight pics of any XBOX
racer yet. ( yeah I got a mag on my desk next to me with some daylight Project Gotham pics, but they don\'t show atmospheric effects, yet. They still look a bit to "clean" )
All I can say is that I\'m impressed with the realistic lighting FX in GT3 and WRC 2001 on PS2.
And yess of course I Know Halo and Munch also go way
back since they started as PS2 potential games, right ?
Knotter8 :)
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Originally posted by Knotter8
yeah I got a mag on my desk next to me with some daylight Project Gotham pics, but they don\'t show atmospheric effects, yet. They still look a bit to "clean"
Those must be the old PG pics from Gamestock (one month into the game\'s developement).
http://www.xbox.com/Games/racing/project-gotham.htm
The pics shown in this thread are from the same game (Project Gotham) just a few months later.
http://www.xbox.com/news/0105/1101.htm
Hence although the new pics show a night setting, there is no doubt that the game has improved since Gamestock.
And yess of course I Know Halo and Munch also go way back since they started as PS2 potential games, right ?[/B]
Munch - Yes.
Halo - No that started as a PC game, a PS2 port was just a rumour. :)
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I\'ll say this. Those PG shots look much better than the gamestock ones. However, GT3 still looks better IMO -- TheMistaWhoKnowsNothing -- what\'s your agenda here? Go crawl back into your cave and await the arrival of your xbox.
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I think GT3 still looks better, but since I prefer arcade racers to boring ass sim ones, I might skip GT3 for PG if PG gets even better graphics before I pick up GT3.
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Originally posted by TheMistaWhoKnow
I always considered you a retard, BizioEE...
why? I was right...you are the only one retarded here...telling people to save money for the X-Box judging from 2 or 3 shots of an unknown racing-game :D
If you couldn\'t understand from the post, I was commenting on the graphics. Did I ever mention gameplay? I don\'t think so. So shut your trap and stop yappin\' before you think.
I can understand anything...I\'m not an Idiot like you...
the only thing people can understand from the post is that you are an idiot! (no offense...it\'s not your fault)
1) GT3 has better graphics than this game...and you said the contrary !
...""Um... to those crybabies who said GT3 was the end of the world... start saving your money. Xbox is here baby!
...try to explain to everybody the meaning of this ****-up...aren\'t you Retarded ?
So...please...go to Mamma and don\'t annoy people...
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bizio, why do you always quote in such a weird way, no offence, but it\'s a bit unclear that way
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BTW, where can I get some of those X-specs so I can see these pics beating GT3? Here\'s a tip Mista; calling ps2central members retard or moron doesn\'t make those shots look any better, broadcasts you\'re a troll, and in general reflects poorly on your choice of a favorite console.
The first image looks like they worked a lot harder on the graffiti in the background than on the car. I don\'t know that much about the gameplay in PG, is the idea to cruise around various cities looking at the sights? ;)
GT3s label as driving simulator is a bit misleading and I feel driving/racing RPG describes it better in the way rewards are offered for improved skills and upgrades. A true sim would make you pay for car damage, with automatic last place for a severe wipe out etc. In other words, not much fun for the average race fan. Just thought I\'d throw that out there since I still hear some say they might pass on GT3 giving the sim tag as reason why. If you gave the PSX GT a solid spin and were never hooked I\'m not about to argue.
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So far GT3 is much better graphic wise(as for gameplay that\'s a matter of prefrence) then again this game has a long way to go, LONG!!!! It\'s not even a launch title, they have plently of time to improve the graphics.
Although i must say for a system not even using final hardware, and still early in development, they are pretty PIMP!!! Just imagine when this game is complete, knowing bizarre, it will be absoultly stunning.
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Originally posted by SonyFan
TheMistaKnowHow, I hate to break it to you, but you are in the wrong bigtime. You said in the title that these pics blow away GT3.. and yet you tell Fastson to give the game a few months. Sure it\'s nit-picking, but it goes to show that you\'re not very consistent and makes it seem as though you\'re only posting these pics to get a rise out of GT3 and PS2 fans.
If you didn\'t read above, SonyFan, I am sticking by my opinion. Personally, I still think it blows GT3 out of the water. I was (and still AM) underwhelmed by GT3, and the gameplay isn\'t all that. THAT is my opinion. I stated the bit about waiting a few months because the graphics will surely be improved, and THAT may change HIS mind.
Originally posted by SonyFan
IMO, the graphics are gorgeous but not as good as GT3 just yet. There are a lot of effects that aren\'t complete, so it\'s natural that they can\'t compair with the effects in GT3. Little things like the realistic spray off the tires on a wet road or the way the light shines down from the streetlamps. Not to mention that the car models themselves (expeciall that BMW) don\'t look as proportionate and finely detailed as they are in GT3. Some of the effects you really can\'t infer from the screens anyhow because they aren\'t in motion.. like the way the car tilts on sharp turns. They just aren\'t quite up to par with Polypony\'s efforts yet.
And you are basing this on ONE SCREENSHOT??? Hmm.. I\'ll give you a shiitload of screenies of GT3 that don\'t look up to snuff...
You haven\'t even seen the game in motion, and you are claiming how it is "not up to snuff" with GT3... can you be any more of a SonyFanboy? What is Sony paying you to say this? Do you have your head way up their ass?
Personally, I have no clue how the game will play, that is why I DIDN\'T COMMENT ON THE GAMEPLAY. Stop making assumptions about gamplay. It would be premature to do so.
Originally posted by SonyFan
Sorry, give the game another two months at least before trying to rub them in peoples faces. Even if all the effects and details I mentioned WERE visable in these pics, they still wouldn\'t "Blow Away" GT3.. they\'d just be on Par with it.
Personally, I don\'t think GT3 is all that. But there will always be people who think it is the mother of all racing games that can\'t be touched (rolls eyes).
This is IMO, of course, and you are more than entitled to your own views.
But I agree on you on the aspect of its improvement in two months. This game has only been in development for around three months (albeit they had a lot of the code already written). Look how good it looks now! In a few more months, it should be a whole lot better!
And we all can benefit from that (even if you aren\'t going to buy the Xbox). Developers pushing other developers to reach the limits of their potential! Sweet!
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WoW!! lOOk at the grass!! The players look proportioned in size, more real looking. The only thing I don\'t like is the light fixtures on the top. They look blury. This is X-Box? :D
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Originally posted by Heretic
BTW, where can I get some of those X-specs so I can see these pics beating GT3? Here\'s a tip Mista; calling ps2central members retard or moron doesn\'t make those shots look any better, broadcasts you\'re a troll, and in general reflects poorly on your choice of a favorite console.
The first image looks like they worked a lot harder on the graffiti in the background than on the car. I don\'t know that much about the gameplay in PG, is the idea to cruise around various cities looking at the sights? ;)
GT3s label as driving simulator is a bit misleading and I feel driving/racing RPG describes it better in the way rewards are offered for improved skills and upgrades. A true sim would make you pay for car damage, with automatic last place for a severe wipe out etc. In other words, not much fun for the average race fan. Just thought I\'d throw that out there since I still hear some say they might pass on GT3 giving the sim tag as reason why. If you gave the PSX GT a solid spin and were never hooked I\'m not about to argue.
Hey pal, my calling people a moron, etc. is my views of what they are, correct or not. Perhaps I did go overboard on that aspect. How it makes me a troll I am not quite sure.
And what was my choice of a favorite console? I pleged no allegance to any console. I think PS2 has some great games, as does Gamecube and Xbox. You are entitled to your own opinion on games, whatever they may be.
Isn\'t that what this forum is about? Posting your opinions?
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Originally posted by BizioEE
why? I was right...you are the only one retarded here...telling people to save money for the X-Box judging from 2 or 3 shots of an unknown racing-game :D
I can understand anything...I\'m not an Idiot like you...
the only thing people can understand from the post is that you are an idiot! (no offense...it\'s not your fault)
1) GT3 has better graphics than this game...and you said the contrary !
...try to explain to everybody the meaning of this ****-up...aren\'t you Retarded ?
So...please...go to Mamma and don\'t annoy people...
You are, and always have been, a runt. I have been on this board for over a year now, and all your comments seem to drag a thread to trash.
I would post a link to examples, but linking to every thread you wrote in is a waste of my time.
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WOW!
You\'ve been here for over a year??
And only posted 22 posts??
Really impressive ;)
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Originally posted by TheMistaWhoKnow
You are, and always have been, a runt. I have been on this board for over a year now, and all your comments seem to drag a thread to trash.
I would post a link to examples, but linking to every thread you wrote in is a waste of my time.
I posted a lot of Thread in the Main Forum and most of People find them interesting and you...what did you do for this Forum? 22 posts? err...I mean...22 co.ck-up ?
Do you know what is a waste of time? your presence here...you are an unproductive Member ! ...and you said some of the most moronic bull**** I\'ve ever heard in your last Thread !
ADIOS MORON!:D
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Originally posted by fastson
WOW!
You\'ve been here for over a year??
And only posted 22 posts??
Really impressive ;)
I was thinking the same :).....:laughing:
...and...What a Wonderful Threads :laughing:
Hey fastson ;) ...don\'t waste your time to reply The Troll !
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Previously Stated by MistaKnowItAll And you are basing this on ONE SCREENSHOT??? Hmm.. I\'ll give you a shiitload of screenies of GT3 that don\'t look up to snuff...
ok and you are asing that this game blows gt3 out of the water on just three pics of PG, and yes PG does look great but to me the only thing that looks better than GT3 is the backgrounds in PG - other than that GT3 looks more realistic graphicwise
and i am sure that the graphics will get better but i wouldn\'t expect it to get mind blowingly better - Even the transformation of GT2000 to GT3 was not mind blowing
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Originally posted by TheMistaWhoKnow
You are, and always have been, a runt. I have been on this board for over a year now, and all your comments seem to drag a thread to trash.
I would post a link to examples, but linking to every thread you wrote in is a waste of my time.
one last thing about this lie he just told us....
he regstered in april of 2001...
years must be months to him.:D
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Originally posted by TheMistaWhoKnow
And you are basing this on ONE SCREENSHOT??? Hmm.. I\'ll give you a shiitload of screenies of GT3 that don\'t look up to snuff...
So why are you saying that this game "beats GT3 hands down," apprently based on this single screenshot as well?? I\'d say you\'re contradicting yourself a bit there, my friend.
You haven\'t even seen the game in motion, and you are claiming how it is "not up to snuff" with GT3... can you be any more of a SonyFanboy? What is Sony paying you to say this? Do you have your head way up their ass?
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Again, have YOU seen this game in motion, or have you played it on a X-Box?? Obviously, you haven\'t. So what right do you have to say that it is graphically superior than GT3, or that it IS "up to snuff" with Polyphony\'s flagship title??
Oh, and don\'t go around screaming that someone\'s a fanboy without any reasons to back up your statement (As I once did. :) ) ; you\'ll get your ass burned. Besides, I expect a more mature attitude from someone who has a "degree in CE and four years of eduction in a University."
And we all can benefit from that (even if you aren\'t going to buy the Xbox). Developers pushing other developers to reach the limits of their potential! Sweet! [/B]
I agree. As everyone seems to saying these days, " \'Tis a wonderful time to be a gamer."
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Originally posted by TheMistaWhoKnow
If you didn\'t read above, SonyFan, I am sticking by my opinion. Personally, I still think it blows GT3 out of the water. I was (and still AM) underwhelmed by GT3, and the gameplay isn\'t all that. THAT is my opinion. I stated the bit about waiting a few months because the graphics will surely be improved, and THAT may change HIS mind.
Personally, I don\'t think GT3 is all that. But there will always be people who think it is the mother of all racing games that can\'t be touched (rolls eyes).
You are the only person probably ever to say that, do you relise how much of an idiot you sound like
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Originally posted by Bozco
You are the only person probably ever to say that, do you relise how much of an idiot you sound like
If you could use correct grammar, then maybe your sentence would sound more coherent.
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Originally posted by Falcon4
one last thing about this lie he just told us....
he regstered in april of 2001...
years must be months to him.:D
Or perhaps I read the boards for a year and just recently registered.
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Originally posted by BizioEE
I was thinking the same :).....:laughing:
...and...What a Wonderful Threads :laughing:
Hey fastson ;) ...don\'t waste your time to reply The Troll !
BizioEE, are you the biggest moron or what? Do you have the balls to back yourself up, kid?
You seem like a big pussy to me, talking smack because all the bullies in school beat you up and you had to go home crying to mommy. Is this the only way you can feel like a little boy again? Why don\'t you offer some constructive criticism instead of talking shiit?
Oh... that\'s right... because you are a skinny little wimp. A little dork that runs around talking big on the internet because that\'s the only way big people can\'t beat the crap out of you. Good for you and your useless posts. Personally, I would rather post one constructive post than 400 useless ones.
Now go to sleep, child, before you miss your bedtime.
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This arguing is pointless.
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Originally posted by IronFist
This arguing is pointless.
God Damn, no way it is! Wanna Fight!
Seriously people, don\'t feel so threatened. Buy GT3(hopefully soon), enjoy, and enjoy some more; we know it\'s going to be an incredible game. It\'s all good! And, if you don\'t agree, I\'ll hunt you down, with Geddy of course, and kick your @ss!
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wow,i\'m not even going to buy GT3 now because of these screenshots :D
I don\'t know that much about the gameplay in PG, is the idea to cruise around various cities looking at the sights?
LOL @ Heretic...yeah,i was starting to wonder about this too..hehee...maybe you earn points by getting out at certain stops and shop for a gift? :)
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*looks at watch*
Is the troll banned yet?
*taps foot, looks back at watch*
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How often do I have to say this? Argue in an appropriate manner, or not at all. This is console debating, not the \'bash-all-you-like-forum\'. If you can\'t follow those simple rules the thread will get closed. Your call.
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Originally posted by TheMistaWhoKnow
You seem like a big pussy to me, talking smack because all the bullies in school beat you up and you had to go home crying to mommy. Is this the only way you can feel like a little boy again? Why don\'t you offer some constructive criticism instead of talking shiit?
Why? You are the only one who is talking **** and I can\'t offer any constructive criticism to someone who can\'t understand...your Thread is ****,pointless,annoying and the only thing I could say is what everyone said to you "between the lines" = you are a Moron ! and when you have replied to everyone...you have only proved for the 10th?-15th? time you are such :)
Oh... that\'s right... because you are a skinny little wimp. A little dork that runs around talking big on the internet because that\'s the only way big people can\'t beat the crap out of you. Good for you and your useless posts. Personally, I would rather post one constructive post than 400 useless ones.
talking Big? the only way I can communicate with you is talking as it\'s usual talking with a little artless child :D...it\'s the only way...believe me :D
Start posting interesting Thread ;)...otherwise I\'ll be forced to bash your moronic posts !
Now go to sleep, child, before you miss your bedtime.
:rolleyes: ....pointless...like your usual...
I don\'t know if you understand what I\'m trying to do with you...something good for you...
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Originally posted by IronFist
This arguing is pointless.
I agree. PG is looking ten times better than it did when first shown. There is noway you can say it is better than gt3 because it is not done yet. And there is noway you can say gt3 is better than this yet. So basicly you guys are just waisting pointless time.
Fanboy vs fanboy.
ps2fanboys vs xboxfanboys
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Originally posted by Dr Yassam
I doubt it\'s a GT3 killer in general, since it\'s probably a different type of racing game (more MSR than GT3), hence it may be just as good but different.
it should play like MSR because it\'s kind of a SEQUEL to it. watching some footage at e3, it looked exactly like msr, right down to the dumb model driving the car. hehehe.