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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: rastalant on May 16, 2001, 08:22:36 PM
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Since they both come out nov.(3 days apart) which one looks better. Personally I think x box is more impressive(grahpically) with games like nfl fever, project gothem, the boat game with the pretty water, oddworld, doa3(can\'t wait til torrow), and other games. I been pretty letdown by gamecube graphics. Oh yeah ain\'t gamecube texturzilla? The texture look below ps2\'s textures. What do you guys think?
Oh yeah x box is getting an upgraded to onimusha and dino crisis 3. Is it me or nintendo doesn\'t have much 3rd party support for gamecube. Come on nintendo where your 3rd party games!!!!?!?!?!?!
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I would say GC, but the Xbox is right behind.
Well see tomorrow.
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project gothm for XBOX, real time
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This game is comming along nice
Anyhow I plan to get both XBOX and GC, always did, but if I had to say I would definitely tip my hat to XBOX
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Am I nuts? I think they both look great.
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i say Xbox (at the moment),but both have nothing to compell me to switch over from PS2 to their\'s (not that is what would happen anyways,i\'d just get all the consoles i happen to like :) ),the game line-up so far with \'em are either ports or kiddie-ish types mostly. Project Gotham looks nice but all i see are replay shots and i\'m still not quite sure the motive behind the game,is it a racer or a site-seeing adventure :laughing: (oh yeah,do all the race tracks use mop-n-glow on the roads too? :D )
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those replay shots are in-game, Just like the GT3 replay shots for many months that ps2 fans were prasing.
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I know is it me or gamecube had a ton of kiddy games AGAIN like n64. One cnn today they said "gamecube will have 5 launch title", and the "x box will have 15- 20 launch title". Man nintendo better get on the ball.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
those replay shots are in-game, Just like the GT3 replay shots for many months that ps2 fans were prasing.
yeah,but there were non-reply shots too,i haven\'t seen any for P.G. yet,this will really show what the game is really like...
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Originally posted by MeTaL=DeaTh
yeah,but there were non-reply shots too,i haven\'t seen any for P.G. yet,this will really show what the game is really like...
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OMG I just realized that I will after all have money for GC, if I won\'t buy GBA... will be a tough decision :)
X-box probably will cost as much as PS2, so that\'s out of question ( unfortunately ). If GC costs as much as Dreamcast did when it launched, I will have money.. or at least I hope ;)
Well, I can\'t really say wich looks better - but I think Gamecube will get some REALLY interesting games [ wich personally interest me - the roots for the interest are far back in the history ;) ] - such as Starfox 3, new Mario, new Mario Kart, Perfect Dark 2 etc.
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project gothm for XBOX, real time
Thanks for clearing that up. It looks so phenomenal that I thought it was being rendered by 15 SGI computers. :rolleyes:
- dm
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It\'s too early to deliver a judgement...however both X-Box and GameCube are really promising and personally I\'ll buy both...First the GC and later(Q4 2002) the X-Box.
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Has anyone seen that mickey mouse game on gamecube? THat has to be one of the worst looking games I\'ve seen in awhile. Smash Bros doesn\'t look that great either and the textures really aren\'t that good on gamecube so far. Project gothem looks better than most of the game I\'ve seen on gamecube.
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I agree with joyda
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Why is the road shinny in project gotham?
I am going to get both consoles,but only once they have some good games, i mean right the Xbox is getting a bit better version of onimusha,great,but i would have played the ps2 onimusha,what is the point,all the xbox seems to be getting at the moment is games that are out on the ps2,but just a bit better!
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Originally posted by EThugg
Am I nuts? I think they both look great.
i have no complaints either
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Originally posted by datamage
Thanks for clearing that up. It looks so phenomenal that I thought it was being rendered by 15 SGI computers. :rolleyes:
- dm
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haha!
Funny :)
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yea its all good to me and don\'t worry GC will get better and so will all other consoles - it can only get better from here
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I hope to buy both on their respective launch dates, but I can\'t say I am excited about the GC. I have yet to see something that is compelling.
As for the XBox...ahh,yummy . ;)
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I can\'t say I\'m too impressed by the Xbox so far. Microsoft have already reveiled all their big name games and they all had noimpact on me. Halo looks descent and I hated the last two Abe games. Jet Set Radio is the only Xbox title that makes me want to buy an Xbox. I don\'t think Microsoft will pull through at E3. All the good stuff is done.
Nintendo on the other hand hasen\'t revealed most of their must have titles. Zelda, Perfect Dark Zero, RE:0,Too Human, and some others. Those titles will be the ones to look out for.
So far I think GameCube\'s showing is a little better than Xbox\'s. Graphically they\'re both pretty much even but NGC\'s games just have me mesmorized. Luigi\'s Mansion, Kameo, Raven Blade, Rogue Leader, Wace Race( the early impressions say that this game will be great), and Dinosaur Planet are all on my must buy list. Nintendo is certainly living up to my expectations so far... and their E3 show can ONLY get better...
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EThugg,thanx for the in-game pics...but! look at the one above the two in-game pics....big difference in graphics. not so sugary sweet as the replay...still good none-the-less.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
I can\'t say I\'m too impressed by the Xbox so far. Microsoft have already reveiled all their big name games and they all had noimpact on me. Halo looks descent and I hated the last two Abe games. Jet Set Radio is the only Xbox title that makes me want to buy an Xbox. I don\'t think Microsoft will pull through at E3. All the good stuff is done.
Nintendo on the other hand hasen\'t revealed most of their must have titles. Zelda, Perfect Dark Zero, RE:0,Too Human, and some others. Those titles will be the ones to look out for.
So far I think GameCube\'s showing is a little better than Xbox\'s. Graphically they\'re both pretty much even but NGC\'s games just have me mesmorized. Luigi\'s Mansion, Kameo, Raven Blade, Rogue Leader, Wace Race( the early impressions say that this game will be great), and Dinosaur Planet are all on my must buy list. Nintendo is certainly living up to my expectations so far... and their E3 show can ONLY get better...
if you are 12 years old and under,i could see where you might say GC\'s showings are better :D
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Originally posted by MeTaL=DeaTh
if you are 12 years old and under,i could see where you might say GC\'s showings are better :D
*sigh*
I\'m not even going to respond to that moronic statement. Just read this and shut the hell up.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/574896.asp
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Originally posted by Jumpman
*sigh*
I\'m not even going to respond to that moronic statement. Just read this and shut the hell up.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/574896.asp
sorry about what i said earlier jumpman i see what you have to put up with
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Originally posted by Jumpman
*sigh*
I\'m not even going to respond to that moronic statement. Just read this and shut the hell up.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/574896.asp
Sorry man, I love GC, and I\'ve been impressed with Nintendos showing so far, but they\'ve hardly stolen the show. And why would you use MSNBC to prove your point??? Why not just ask Martha Stewart... I mean, what does MSNBC know about games?
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Originally posted by EThugg
Sorry man, I love GC, and I\'ve been impressed with Nintendos showing so far, but they\'ve hardly stolen the show. And why would you use MSNBC to prove your point??? Why not just ask Martha Stewart... I mean, what does MSNBC know about games?
Well, I completely agree. Sony is having an extremely great show so far and Nintendo isn\'t releasing their biggest new information yet so they definitely aren\'t stealing the show so far.
But that\'s not the point I was trying to make. He implied that only people that are 12 years old and under were impressed with Nintendo\'s showings. I gave him that article so he could see that older people were impressed too.
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I dont really understnad how anyone could think GC was looking better over XBox. Please explain it to me someone!
Jet Set Radio Future alone throws the Boxes graphics over the top of GC IMO. but then of course you have Halo, Oddworld, NFL Fever (oh my goodnes!), etc.
Actually, I think SSM2 was looking cool, but nothing over what some of the X-Box stuff was being shown.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by Jumpman
*sigh*
I\'m not even going to respond to that moronic statement. Just read this and shut the hell up.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/574896.asp
you are a big crybaby jumpman,that was a joke and if you took that seriously,then you are a spoiled brat or something...quit crying,dry up the tears and enjoy things for a change,it\'s a forum here,not a pre-school!! still though,GC showed more pro-kiddie games than anything else (again don\'t cry)
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Originally posted by MeTaL=DeaTh
you are a big crybaby jumpman,that was a joke and if you took that seriously,then you are a spoiled brat or something...quit crying,dry up the tears and enjoy things for a change,it\'s a forum here,not a pre-school!! still though,GC showed more pro-kiddie games than anything else (again don\'t cry)
Do me a favor? List all the games that were shown for the GameCube. Look at the phucking list. What do you see? Phucking Pikmin, Luigi, and maybe SmashBrothers are the only games that could be classified as kiddie. Get your head out of your ass.
BTW, Star Fox is not kiddie.
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BTW, Star Fox is not kiddie
Says who? Are you kidding, the kids will love that game. Nintendo is KIddy period!!!! everyone knows this, will they have mature games?? YES!!!! they will but there demographic target is for the youths, therefore it would make sense to put more effort to cater towards there needs
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Says who? Are you kidding, the kids will love that game. Nintendo is KIddy period!!!! everyone knows this, will they have mature games?? YES!!!! they will but there demographic target is for the youths, therefore it would make sense to put more effort to cater towards there needs
What\'s your point? Real gamers (who can afford it) will have a GC @ launch. Period.
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I kinda get damn tired of hearing this BS... no matter how much information or evidence is given, some ears are too far into moldy asses to hear.
Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Says who? Are you kidding, the kids will love that game. Nintendo is KIddy period!!!!
And how do you know this?? Do you see Nintendo representatives still going through puberty, or pooping in plastic mobile toilets because they don\'t know how to wipe their own asses?? Do they go around licking on lolli-pops, or screaming to their 79-year old parents for a scoop of Baskin-Robbins?? Just what the hell is your definition of "kiddy" anyway??
they will but there demographic target is for the youths, therefore it would make sense to put more effort to cater towards there needs
Tell me Ogodly, did Nintendo OFFICIALLY announce that their main concentration will be on the younger demographic?? NO!! So why do you incesstantly ramble on and on that they will only appeal to ages 12 and under?? Is it because HAL developed a few Pokemon games, or that Rare released Banjo, neither whom are EAD?? Or is it because you count yourself so high and mighty that only the most "mature" games can reach your high-peaked ego (Oh blood and gore, whoop-dee-doo!!!).
You know, I wouldn\'t mind at all if Nintendo dissappears from the face of the Earth, if it weren\'t for people like this. It\'s this kind of ignorance that makes me fervantly wish that Nintendo wins, so that such moronic and pointless crap can be shoved back down where it came from.
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Tell me Ogodly, did Nintendo OFFICIALLY announce that their main concentration will be on the younger demographic??
YES, are you a f*cking Moron. It\'s so obvious that Nintendo is mainly focused on the youths, there games, past history,present, even the system design all show the signs. Also ASSwipe did I say The big N wont have mature games, no I didn\'t. I mean come on, of course Nintendo will try and serve to mature crowd, but like I said before they are more focused on the younger demographic. Plus even the adults or the older crowd that are nintendo fans buy the young games like mario, donkey, zelda etc(altough nintendo said zelda would be a more mature game this time round) and nintendo knows this.
You know, I wouldn\'t mind at all if Nintendo disappears from the face of the Earth, if it weren\'t for people like this. It\'s this kind of ignorance that makes me fervantly wish that Nintendo wins, so that such moronic and pointless crap can be shoved back down where it came from.
If it weren’t for people like you we would live in a much better world, but hey that\'s life. Man you responded to this post in a real harsh manner, which leads me to believe that I must of really hit nerve, the only people I’ve seen respond like this are Nintendo Zealots(not saying your one)
But nintendo has this kiddy imagine for a good reason, they gave it to themselves. Also at E3 this year i was expecting to see sharp realitic looking games, but instead we get colorful, cartoonish looking games(most of the games),
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gee i wonder does nintendo think of the young ones, Of coruse they do. Not to say that these games wont be fun, but it reminds me of the n64(these screens have an n64 look to them) Hey listen Hyper, i\'ll tell you what i\'ll mail a letter to nintendo telling them to send you a lolli-pop when you buy your GC.
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hyper and the not so ogodlything calm down, pull your panties out the twist there in, maybe your wearing your thong backwards hahahaha
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Originally posted by Gohan
Do me a favor? List all the games that were shown for the GameCube. Look at the phucking list. What do you see? Phucking Pikmin, Luigi, and maybe SmashBrothers are the only games that could be classified as kiddie. Get your head out of your ass.
BTW, Star Fox is not kiddie.
aww shut up kid! you and jumpboy go play with your fisher price toys and change your diapers...
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LOL i can\'t believe they put a handle on the back of the console. Yeah i\'m sure those mature gamers are going to carry there little purple cube to there friends house.
Opps what was i thinking, Nintendo put made there console into a purse for the young ones, so they can carry they game machine aroung to there pals houses.
Honeslty it does make sense, but what about us Older gamers. Exactly nintendo\'s system to more targeted towards a younger age group.
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LOL i can\'t believe they put a handle on the back of the console. Yeah i\'m sure those mature gamers are going to carry there little purple cube to there friends house.
Dude, you can take it to the playground and use it as a lunchbox. That\'s what the handle is for. :laughing:
- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
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Whoa, I sank low on the other post. Excitement from both E3 and preparation for finals must be getting to me.
First, to start things off; Ogodly, I apologize for the stuff I said in the other post. Emotions make me tempermental sometimes. Hope you\'ll accept my apology.
However, I\'m sorry for how I said it, but not for what I said. The point I was trying to make in still stands. Here\'s why:
Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Nintendo is KIddy period!!!! everyone knows this
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This is what really got me boiling in the first place, and something that I\'ve tried to understand for quite a while now. Why is Nintendo "kiddy"?? I acknowledge the fact that Pokemon and Banjo is aimed at the younger market, but that\'s about all I can name off the top of my head. And as I\'ve stated before, neither of those were developed by EAD. Ironically, Nintendo\'s "mature" strength, Rare, seems to be pumping out all the "kiddy" games these days; Donkey Kong, Mickey\'s Racing USA, Banjo Kazooie & Tooie, Conker\'s Bad Fur Day (Blood and fical matter makes a game rather immature, IMO), and the rest. But none, I repeat NONE, of these principal "kiddy" games were created or even thought of in anywhere near Japan.
YES, are you a f*cking Moron. It\'s so obvious that Nintendo is mainly focused on the youths, there games, past history,present, even the system design all show the signs.
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I could care less if the Gamecube looked like my Mom\'s cassarole. A system\'s design has nothing to do with how "mature" the console or the company behind it is; the games do. X-Box looks like an oversized Dodge bumper, and the PS2 eerily resembles a 1970 alarm clock/radio combination (I would know this since I still have one at home :) ). Does that make them any less of a great system?? NO!!
I already explained about the present, so I\'ll get to Nintendo\'s past about game violence. I think everyone will agree with me when I say that there was no such thing as "gore" in the 16-bit and 8-bit days. First off, developers couldn\'t simulate blood realistically, and having no real reason to implement such levels of blood, (Until MK came along... damn Midaway), they mainly concentrated on gameplay. Look at some of the greatest games that came out the past generation: Chrono Trigger, Mario RPG, Legend of Zelda; Link to the Past... I could go on and on. And were these games labeled "kiddy," for not having buckets of blood and disoriented zombies?? Of course not!! IMO, I think it\'s unfair to judge Nintendo "kiddy" from their past.
Also ASSwipe did I say The big N wont have mature games, no I didn\'t. I mean come on, of course Nintendo will try and serve to mature crowd, but like I said before they are more focused on the younger demographic. Plus even the adults or the older crowd that are nintendo fans buy the young games like mario, donkey, zelda etc(altough nintendo said zelda would be a more mature game this time round) and nintendo knows this.
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To concentrate on the younger demographic is suicide; that\'s what Nintendo knows. The majority of the people that play videogames range from teens to adults, fact proven by oh so many surveys and media reports. Also, young people don\'t stay young forever, and they have limited control over the games they buy (I doubt a 7 year old has even heard about Conker). Why would Nintendo want to invest in such a restricted market??
Man you responded to this post in a real harsh manner, which leads me to believe that I must of really hit nerve, the only people I’ve seen respond like this are Nintendo Zealots(not saying your one)
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I was angry with your post because I was getting tired of people calling Nintendo "kiddy" despite their efforts to uplift the image. Check out the comments that were made tonight alone:
"I wasnt too impressed by too many of the kiddy games that Nintendo showed." - AlteredBeast
"there probably praising those kiddy cartoonish games. I bet they think the LUGI mansion game is pure brilliance" - By yours Truly
"Nintendo was graphicallly amazing, but their lineup was weak and in some areas too kiddie. I agree with alterd beast, nintendo is trying to be mature? they must be joking! Most of their games were all colorfull, happy and kiddie." - Metal_Gear_Ray
I could prattle on and on, but I\'m not going to bore you. Doesn\'t anyone realize why Nintendo acquired Silicon Knights to develop ED and Too Human, or Rare develop Perfact Dark 0, or Retro develop Raven Blade?? Even Miyamoto himself implies that he considers the older market important, much more so that the younger;
"When I said that Mario needed to grow up, what I really meant was that Mario\'s design needs to change as I\'m afraid he was appealing a little too much to a strictly younger age." - Miyamoto, at an interview with IGN Cube
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But nintendo has this kiddy imagine for a good reason, they gave it to themselves. Also at E3 this year i was expecting to see sharp realitic looking games, but instead we get colorful, cartoonish looking games(most of the games),
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gee i wonder does nintendo think of the young ones, Of coruse they do. Not to say that these games wont be fun, but it reminds me of the n64(these screens have an n64 look to them)
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EDIT: BAH!! Can\'t get the images to work. Guess you\'ll have to click to see.
And let\'s divide some upcoming NGC groups to different "maturity" levels now, shall we??
Mature
Raven Blade
Thornado
Metroid Prime
Turok Evolution
Perfect Dark Zero
Rogue Leader
Eternal Darkness
Resident Evil: 0
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dradon
Tekken Tag Tournament (Still in negotiations)
Too Human
Rogue Spear
Neutral
NBA Courtside 2002
RRV (Still in negotiations)
1080 2 Snowboarding
Zelda GameCube
F-Zero (Rumored)
Wave Race: Blue Storm
Phantasy Star onlin Ver 2
Batman
NFL Blitz
NHL Hitz
Crazy Taxi
Extreme G3
18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker
Legends of Wrestling
All Star Baseball 2002
Madden NFL
Tony Hawk\'s Pro Skater
SSX: Special Edition
Virtual Striker 3
"Kiddy"
Mario Gamecube (Not in my opinion, but since everyone else thinks so)
Kameo (Again, I disagree, but I regress)
Luigi\'s Mansion
Smash Brothers Melee
Rayman Tribe
Pikmin
Monkey Ball
Mario Kart
Donkey Kong Racing
That\'s about all I can remember. But looks like the mature and neutral titles kinda outnumber the "kiddy" ones, don\'tyou think??
Hey listen Hyper, i\'ll tell you what i\'ll mail a letter to nintendo telling them to send you a lolli-pop when you buy your GC. [/B]
That\'d be great!! Tell them to send grape flavor. :)