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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Terry Bogard on May 22, 2001, 10:37:03 AM
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/feature.cfm?sid=2727&page=3
I\'d quote it for you guys, but im extremely lazy today.
Enjoy:D
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Sorry to just quote one question but it will help to put the old PS2 is hard to develop for to rest.
CVG: Are you happy with the way PlayStation 2 has performed while constructing the game?
Hideo Kojima: It’s really not a matter of the hardware. Yes, I’m happy with PlayStation 2. I mean all three of the next generation games consoles, Xbox, PlayStation 2 and Gamecube; they’re all the same. It’s hard to develop on all these machines.
You see the BIG man said they are all the same, so lets now put a stop to all this console fighting OK :D.
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You see the BIG man said they are all the same, so lets now put a stop to all this console fighting OK .
It\'s nice to hear that, but this dosen\'t mean ****. First off many other developers totally disgree with that. Therefore he is only one of the many that out number him. I respect Hideo Kojima point of view, but i take it with a grain of salt.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
It\'s nice to hear that, but this dosen\'t mean ****. First off many other developers totally disgree with that. Therefore he is only one of the many that out number him. I respect Hideo Kojima point of view, but i take it with a grain of salt.
Ah dear looks like i can\'t even try and bring PEACE to this Beloved Forum of ours.
Look what he SAID is 100% True.
BECAUSE AT TIMES <======= times being the key word
THE X box will be hard to develop for
The Nintendo Gamecube will be hard to develop for
The Playstation 2 Will be hard to develop for
it\'s a fact of life Games, just don\'t develop themselfs and it ant as easy as some people clame it is.
anyone who says its ALWAYS easy to develop for COLSOE IS A FOOL !
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Let\'s not forget that at first programmers detested the DirectX API
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Ah dear looks like i can\'t even try and bring PEACE to this Beloved Forum of ours.
It\'s not about peace ooseven it\'s about the truth. Listen Hideo Kojima has his own opinions, but I was trying to point out many other developers have a different take on the issue, Just because One dev says there all the same doesn’t make it so. Especially when magority of others don\'t agree with him.
I respect the nature of the thread you created ooseven and the intentions you brought about it. Though I felt compelled to point out a few facts here.
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Originally posted by ooseven
CVG: Are you happy with the way PlayStation 2 has performed while constructing the game?
Hideo Kojima: It’s really not a matter of the hardware. Yes, I’m happy with PlayStation 2. I mean all three of the next generation games consoles, Xbox, PlayStation 2 and Gamecube; they’re all the same. It’s hard to develop on all these machines.
You see the BIG man said they are all the same, so lets now put a stop to all this console fighting OK :D.
I think its more damage control than anything. His last comments about PS2 development difficulty were some serious ammo for PS2 bashers. He doesn\'t want to give them more things to complain about. BTW, Wouldn\'t he have to be making games on all of the next generation consoles to know about their difficulty? I know about MGSX; but he said they were not going to work on that until MGS2 was finished. Kinda makes you wonder what he is talking about. Maybe its just wishful thinking by this Nintendo fan......or is it?.......yes it is......is it really? :D
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i could care less if it is harder to program for the PS2 as i am not a developer - just as long as the devs make a good game then i will be happy
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Gohan is right. The guy isn\'t even making games for any other system(well atleast not NGC), how can he say such bull****?
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Gohan is right. The guy isn\'t even making games for any other system(well atleast not NGC), how can he say such bull****?
ok ill just ask nintendo to send you one ofr their DEv kits and then we will see if he is telling the turth or not.
DEV kits will always be hard to programme for at the earily stages regardless of what ever console
Even Earily games that look and play great have their problems in the development stage.
i mean WHY BASH MR Hideo ,he is JUST telling the Turth FFS....
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i mean WHY BASH MR Hidoe he is JUST telling the Turth
Maybe or maybe not. Who knows he may not want to put any console down. Now even if he is telling the truth(which I find extremely hard to believe) this Truth as you put it, is only a matter of his perspective. In others words like I said earlier Just because Kojima says one thing doesn’t make it true. He is only one developer with one point of view, when many others developers see this issue differently
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Originally posted by ooseven
ok ill just ask nintendo to send you one ofr their DEv kits and then we will see if he is telling the turth or not.
DEV kits will always be hard to programme for at the earily stages regardless of what ever console
Even Earily games that look and play great have their problems in the development stage.
i mean WHY BASH MR Hideo ,he is JUST telling the Turth FFS....
You missed the point. He isn\'t programming for the NGC (and possibly Xbox) yet, he is just assuming things which is totally wrong. He should be making games for the system before he goes and runs his mouth like that.
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Ok Accepted, if he hasn\'t even look at what The X box or NGC could offer, he is right in saying that all sytems have their problems regardless of who ever makes them.
it\'s just too easy these days to say that one system is easy or hard to develop "Just Because".
For example the fault could lay with the Dev kit or it could be the result of a developer needing to explore what a system can and can\'t do.
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Originally posted by ooseven
You see the BIG man said they are all the same, so lets now put a stop to all this console fighting OK :D.
I think he was being diplomatic. The way I read it, he was trying to avoid getting involved in this same old argument. If he\'d said "they\'re all easy to develop for" he would have sounded like a fool or a liar. Saying "they\'re all hard to develop for" was the smartest answer he could have given.
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Is Silent Hill2 developed in the same department as MGS2??
Cuz SH2 and SHX is developed at the same time.
If so Hideo might have tried out the Xbox or something...
He is one of the best developers.
I think he knows what hes talking about.
Give it a rest!
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Geez what is wrong with you people? Kojima says that all consoles are hard to develope for at times and you all jump on him and call him a lier. If the so called fact that your console of choice is so easy to develope for is the only arguement you have, well then you better get some more material.
P.S. Hideo Kojima is GOD!
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
Geez what is wrong with you people? Kojima says that all consoles are hard to develope for at times and you all jump on him and call him a lier. If the so called fact that your console of choice is so easy to develope for is the only arguement you have, well then you better get some more material.
P.S. Hideo Kojima is GOD!
Thank you fastson and Solid Snake 88 for the support, for a while there i thouhg i was the only sane person left in the forum......
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"The only way to get the best out of an argument is to avoid one completely." Anyways, thanks for the article. It was a good read. Thanks for your appreciation and contribution to the forums.
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P.S. Hideo Kojima is GOD
If so then i\'m Superman :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
Geez what is wrong with you people? Kojima says that all consoles are hard to develope for at times and you all jump on him and call him a lier. If the so called fact that your console of choice is so easy to develope for is the only arguement you have, well then you better get some more material.
P.S. Hideo Kojima is GOD!
Get your head out of your dirty spot. I was merely stating how ironic it is for him to say that the other consoles are hard to develop for when he is only working on the PS2. Am I wrong for pointing out the obvious?
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Originally posted by Gohan
Get your head out of your dirty spot. I was merely stating how ironic it is for him to say that the other consoles are hard to develop for when he is only working on the PS2. Am I wrong for pointing out the obvious?
I wasn\'t really talking about you Gohan.
Oh and I think I\'ll keep my head right where it is. ;)
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
Oh and I think I\'ll keep my head right where it is. ;)
To each his own.
BTW, Kojima is a talented developer.
Hugh Hefner is GOD.
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I\'ve read in an interview a long time ago with hideo and they asked him about metal gear on gamecube. Hideo responded with and I quote"Metal gear 2 wouldn\'t work well with nintendo\'s younger audinces. Niether would silent hill 2." He also mentined some stuff about metal gear solid x on xbox. Don\'t attack me I\'m just delievering the message hideo said.
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Originally posted by Gohan
To each his own.
BTW, Kojima is a talented developer.
Hugh Hefner is GOD.
Notice the ;)?
@ raslant: Hideo Kojima (GOD) himself has said many times that Metal Gear is NOT coming to XBox.
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
Notice the ;)?
@ raslant: Hideo Kojima (GOD) himself has said many times that Metal Gear is NOT coming to XBox.
Hey what do you call metal gear solid X? That coming out on xbox. I\'m not sure if its one or two but it is a metal gear game on xbox. Oh yeah the silent hill team confirmed that silent hill x is indeed a port of silent hill 2.
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:rolleyes:
He said at the Pre-E3 Press Conference that it would be exclusive.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
:rolleyes:
He said at the Pre-E3 Press Conference that it would be exclusive.
:rolleyes:
Then what the heck is mgsX. A port of mgs1 or a upgrade of some type?
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Hey what do you call metal gear solid X? That coming out on xbox. I\'m not sure if its one or two but it is a metal gear game on xbox. Oh yeah the silent hill team confirmed that silent hill x is indeed a port of silent hill 2.
gee look at his name Solid Snake 88
You sir are a Metal Gear Horror
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Then what the heck is mgsX. A port of mgs1 or a upgrade of some type?
It was already said that MGSX would not be a port of part 1.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
It was already said that MGSX would not be a port of part 1.
Then if its not mgs1 or mgs2 so what does that make it? Maybe a combination of both of them or an new xbox version which would be really sweet.
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No console is EASY to develop for. But some consoles might be easier to develop for than others... Programming is never just \'easy\'. It takes a lot of skill and time. :)
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Hideo is my hero
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Why are you all having a row about,the hole hard to develop for thing,who cares,konami is developing for all three consoles,i am sure he would have checked them all out.
But i want to know what he ment by "we will really surprize you"i am getting excited.
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By the way guys, did you get that news about Silent Hill X and Metal Gear X?
They will not come to Xbox before the end of 2002, which means : 2003.
Theses games will remain PS2 exclusive for a while, and when they\'ll be out on Xbox we\'ll be talking
about Silent Hill 3 and the future project of Hideo Kojima, whatever it can be (MGS3?ZOE2?Snake VS Jehuty?
New revolutionnary project?)
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I heard about MGSX that it\'s an hybrid version of MGS1 and MGS2...if that is the truth I\'ll never buy it !
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Originally posted by Samwise
No console is EASY to develop for. But some consoles might be easier to develop for than others... Programming is never just \'easy\'. It takes a lot of skill and time. :)
I agree with my viking brother here :D
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Originally posted by raslant
I\'ve read in an interview a long time ago with hideo and they asked him about metal gear on gamecube. Hideo responded with and I quote"Metal gear 2 wouldn\'t work well with nintendo\'s younger audinces. Niether would silent hill 2." He also mentined some stuff about metal gear solid x on xbox. Don\'t attack me I\'m just delievering the message hideo said.
He also said that Metal Gear Solid will be compatible with a future GameBoy version. Take from that what you want; but I am willing to bet oodles of cash that a GameBoy version is not going to be compatible with a PS2 version. Lemme find a link. :D
[EDIT] I found a link. It is pretty old but HERE (http://www.dailyradar.com/features/game_feature_page_836_1.html) it is nonetheless. Taken from the now dead DailyRadar.com
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
gee look at his name Solid Snake 88
You sir are a Metal Gear Horror
What the f*ck si that supposed to mean TheOgodlyOne?
What I meant was MGS2 will be PS2 exclusive for at least until 2003.
I also remember hearing that MGSX will be MGS1 with some new added stuff and a few parts from MGS2, but NOT the full MGS2.
Kojima is GOD!
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What the f*ck si that supposed to mean TheOgodlyOne?
Sarcasm!!!! take a load off mate, it\'s all good
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Sarcasm!!!! take a load off mate, it\'s all good
Ok, ok. Your right. This whole fight is stupid. Just forget it. Sorry. :(
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Originally posted by Julien
By the way guys, did you get that news about Silent Hill X and Metal Gear X?
They will not come to Xbox before the end of 2002, which means : 2003.
Theses games will remain PS2 exclusive for a while, and when they\'ll be out on Xbox we\'ll be talking
about Silent Hill 3 and the future project of Hideo Kojima, whatever it can be (MGS3?ZOE2?Snake VS Jehuty?
New revolutionnary project?)
Silent Hill X is a launch title (Nov 8 2001). They haven\'t released info on MGSX but 2003 seems very, very unlikely.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/feature.cfm?sid=2747
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Origionally posted by jumpman
You missed the point. He isn\'t programming for the NGC (and possibly Xbox) yet, he is just assuming things which is totally wrong. He should be making games for the system before he goes and runs his mouth like that.
yeah i heard that stuff too about silent hill X on x-box, this answers jumpman\'s question on \'has kojima tried developing on x-box?\' and the answer for x-box is a clear yes. maybe he has not developed a complette game yet, but still you don\'t have to develop a complette game to understand if a platform is hard to develop for or not, as ooseven has also stated.
And for nindtendo, i am sure konami have received the dev-kits, and who knows maybe they have a secret un-announced project working on gamecube? ( what do we know??) it could happen! sega was working on VF4 on PS2 and other titles for PS2 way before they announced that they have multi-platform plans.
so there jumpman, eat this!