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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ddaryl on May 22, 2001, 06:09:24 PM
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Thanx to datamage for posting this in conole debate but I know alot of you want to read this
taken for datamage\'s Console debate post
This coming from the X-box portion of IGN. Read the entire article yourselves. But of course, here\'s a tasty clip.
As a result, we\'d clearly say Sony walked away with the most impressive showing of this year\'s electronic Entertainment Expo. Not Gamecube. Not Xbox. The PS2 smacked them both down, no contest. They didn\'t exactly "steal" the show, they just came right in and took it.
Read the whole thing... http://xbox.ign.com/news/35114.html
Its refreshing to hear someone else say what I felt was true about this E3 instead of jumping on the Nintendo hype wagon. Sony and the PS2 finnally gets some kudos from a non PS2 based site
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ok, well good for sony, considering they lagged last E3
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
ok, well good for sony, considering they lagged last E3
I feel Xbox has a similiar E3 this year as Sony had last year.
By this time Next year Xbox will be firing on all cylinders so its intersting to see another machine have similiar growing pains as the PS2 did
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Very interesting indeed especially when you consider that it was posted in IGN-XBOX.
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That is kinda ironic that it\'s in the XBOX section but it\'s good news either way;)
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Great article!
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Hey ddaryl, thanks for posting it here. :) I\'m not sure why I didn\'t. I got too used to posting in the debating section.
I honestly do think Sony deserves the praise for this E3. All bias aside, (as I intend to purchase all consoles,) Sony had tons of great games to show, plus they showed that the developers can get past the difficulties of the PS2. One thing I\'ve noticed is that the textures used in PS2 games are slowly getting better.
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I feel Xbox has a similiar E3 this year as Sony had last year.
Yep, last year SEGA ruled E3, but this year I feel Sony did a hell of alot better than NGC.
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From what we witnessed, it seems as if Microsoft is more concerned with building up their model in Sony\'s image, and the fact is, the PlayStation 2 is doing just fine on establishing dominance. Trying to wholly steal the PS2\'s market share will be damned near impossible without some sort of unique hook. From where we\'re sitting, Microsoft is already lagging behind in several key areas such as: Internet functionality, 3rd party support, their user install base and public perception, and they just don\'t seem to want to concede that more is needed to get over this hump of consumer apathy. Until this happens, we\'ll still be looking forward to the Xbox, but the truth is, we will probably remain in the minority, and if this doesn\'t change, it will lead to larger troubles ahead.
Microsoft cannot bust up in the console business, and expect to the be the Sony of 95, becuz it\'s impossible in today\'s market.
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I think that the conlsole that has actually been released does the best at trade shows. At a trade that last 3 days you can\'t just flash a box and expect people to be satisfied you have to show games! And since sony has the most 3rd party support as well as a much improved 1st party showing (people need to stop bashing sonys games cause they got some ot the best gt3, tm:b, and J&D just to name a few). also they\'ve been out for a while so the games that to longer to develope which are usually the better ones were ready to show.
The trend shows, liek they mentioned, in the dreamcasts last E3.
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Great article!! I feel so proud to own a PS2 now! :D
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I suppose it all depends on how you look at it when you are trying to determine who stole the show. When I think of a console making a huge impact at E3 I think of a console that presents the most surprises. IMO the gamecube did in fact steal the show due to the fact that most people didn\'t know what to expect from Nintendo and what we got was simply amazing. We all knew what to expect from Sony and they delivered indefinitely with a great showing. Then we have x-box which also had an impressive showing but was way less spectacular than anyone expected. Nintendo impressed me most due to the fact that they have for the most part been very hush hush about the gamecube and have not tried to hype it up at all. Almost everyone was surprised by what they had to show at E3 and it was in no way overhyped. I\'m 100% happy with my PS2 and I don\'t plan on buying another console for at least another two years, so I speak a very unbiased point of view when I say that IMO Nintendo rocked E3 and stole the show. But hey........that\'s just my opinion. :)
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Wow I woulda thought that the XBox would have gotten a lot of raves. HMMMM...Thats fine for now, but I think that the XBox is just the beging, I think that It\'ll be a sucsess. But I dont think that it will be any better than the PS2. Or maybe it will.....
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But I think it is still to early to tell....
WOLFE
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But I dont think that it will be any better than the PS2. Or maybe it will.....
I think it will, it has to be in the sense that it\'s capable of producing games far more seperiour than psx2. The HDD, unified Ram, and GPU will allow the system to do this. It all up to the developers now to take adavantage of it.
I believe XBOX will really shine and become very popular in about a year, cause then the games will be rolling.
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I think all companies did pretty equally good. I think anyone who picks one company as doing much better than the others is on crack.
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also NEXT E3 will be very interesting!!!!!
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Nice article. What a good read... :)
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That was the last thing I expected to read from a xbox site!
Good honest article. They are obviusly not fanboys. Just some guy who loves his videogames
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Nono, it\'s the last thing I expected to read from Brandon Justice\'s hand... Mr hardcore Sega advocate praising "Sega isn\'t going anywhere except onward with the Dreamcast." To hear a man who so horridly dissed the PS2 last E3 then utterly praise it at this E3 is one hell of a turn of events. Listening to him praise it\'s great features and great games is something that shouldn\'t be ignored at all. If a "hardcore" journalist can realize the greatness of the competition, maybe other fanboys can too. (I won\'t hold my breath for OGodlyThing).
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Originally posted by EThugg
I think all companies did pretty equally good. I think anyone who picks one company as doing much better than the others is on crack.
I\'m sorry you can\'t accept the fact PS2 won the show.....
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
I think it will, it has to be in the sense that it\'s capable of producing games far more seperiour than psx2. The HDD, unified Ram, and GPU will allow the system to do this. It all up to the developers now to take adavantage of it.
I believe XBOX will really shine and become very popular in about a year, cause then the games will be rolling.
unified Ram is nothing but an economic solution...and the GPU is powerful because it has to do all the stuff(P3 is so weak)...look at the whole machine...
...I think who likes developing with DirectX should be shoot :D
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Hardcore recognition...no...facing the facts yes
it will be interesting to see who the best is at the next E3...i wonder what sony can pull out then
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Hardcore recognition...no...facing the facts yes
Facing the facts?
I do believe it\'s called opinion
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ahh beattie...arguing when you agree with the opinions
yes, it is opinion, i was merely being broad in my opinion, the fact is, that in more peoples opinions, Sony had the superior showing
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I think who likes developing with DirectX should be shoot
Than with that notion, people who like developing for the PSX2 need to be HUNG and have there balls choped off.
LOL........
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Than with that notion, people who like developing for the PSX2 need to be HUNG and have there balls choped off.
LOL........
then they defect to another system and are called LORNE LANNING :laughing:.
Thats what i like about this LORNE LANNING , he is like a King to the Fanboys and trolls out there, isn\'t that right TheOgodlyThing........
:laughing:.
j/k
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he is like a King to the Fanboys and trolls out there, isn\'t that right TheOgodlyThing........
I don\'t know, you would know better ooseven.....:laughing::laughing::laughing:
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
I don\'t know, you would know better ooseven.....:laughing::laughing::laughing:
Meeeeeeeaoooowwwwwww
Looks like we have a Cat fight here.
Better watch i don\'t get my eyes scratched out.
in the PS2 WEBSITE !
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in the PS2 WEBSITE
You mean in the PSX2 Website
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
You mean in the PSX2 Website
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Oh so you do know what this site was set up of ?
still dosen\'t explain the attatude ?
Oh yeah it dose
I would say what you are but i think everyone knows buy now :laughing:.
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still dosen\'t explain the attatude
Explain???
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it\'s with the
Than with that notion, people who like developing for the PSX2 need to be HUNG and have there balls choped off.
LOL........
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look i know you where refering to the DirectX vs PS2 Dev kits debate, but please remember mate that it is an sensitive subject.
thats all.
The next time someone flames PC Or X Box development , just remembet that NO SYSTEM is easy to develop for INCLUDING THE PC.
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look i know you where refering to the DirectX vs PS2 Dev kits debate, but please remember mate that it is an sensitive subject.
Maybe so, but i knew when i posted that comeback about the DirectX cinsidering this is a psX2 site, I was walking on thin water, in a sense
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Originally posted by BizioEE
(ooseven is really a productive member,a Great member and **** like you mustn\'t turn in this way...)
Thanks mate ill remember that the next time i get called a silly Human buy Clyde or MM.
Infact where are they i haven\'t Seen Clyde or MM in AGES i hope they are ok........
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Originally posted by ooseven
Meeeeeeeaoooowwwwwww
Looks like we have a Cat fight here.
Better watch i don\'t get my eyes scratched out.
in the PS2 WEBSITE !
...the best we can do is ignoring the X-Troll...his intention is ruining this Great Main Forum...
I was the first to be wrong yesterday :)....Let\'s ignore him !
He\'s only an X-Box fanboy and he doesn\'t deserve "our attentions" :D
(ooseven is really a productive member,a Great member and **** like you mustn\'t turn in this way...)
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the best we can do is ignoring the X-Troll...his intention is ruining this Great Main Forum
Ruining this great forum, oh please you really are desparite. I don\'t come into the main forums starting **** posts, whith headlines like PSX2 sucks ass, XBOX rules, BAD NEWS for SONYFANS etc.... I have my opinions, and when i see DlCKS like you post stupid **** like this ...I think who likes developing with DirectX should be shoot
, you can see why I can get cranky and throw it right back at you.
...the best we can do is ignoring the X-Troll...his intention is ruining this Great Main Forum
Such wise words, for a little man:thepimp:
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Such wise words, for a little man:thepimp:
You tow stop fighting and get over to the off the topic forum now there\'s something serious happening.
Click on the Clyde Aid post for more deatils.
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Originally posted by BizioEE
I\'m sorry you can\'t accept the fact PS2 won the show.....
Ummm... what? Did I miss the end of the show where they handed out an award? Sony\'s showing was not better than the other 2. Period. Anyone who says that is a moron. Period. Praise from one guy on ign, regardless of what section, means nothing. Praise from some PS2 fans means little to. I saw the same games/announcements everyone else did. Nothing Sony did got any real gamer more excited than GC and XB. What am I saying? You are not a real gamer. Don\'t like it? Tough ****.
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Well.......IT\'S A SONY
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i dont even know why you putting the Xbox as one of the best in the show....nearly every game was a disappointment in the performance and gameplay department...the only reason I MIGHT get an xbox is for Sega games...thats it..
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Originally posted by DJ Tiesto
i dont even know why you putting the Xbox as one of the best in the show....nearly every game was a disappointment in the performance and gameplay department...the only reason I MIGHT get an xbox is for Sega games...thats it..
I\'m not sure who your talking to, but i\'ll say this: You are not a real gamer. Something else would interest you if you were.
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Originally posted by EThugg
Ummm... what? Did I miss the end of the show where they handed out an award? Sony\'s showing was not better than the other 2. Period. Anyone who says that is a moron. Period. Praise from one guy on ign, regardless of what section, means nothing. Praise from some PS2 fans means little to. I saw the same games/announcements everyone else did. Nothing Sony did got any real gamer more excited than GC and XB. What am I saying? You are not a real gamer. Don\'t like it? Tough ****.
Dammit EThugg do you always got to get into fights with people who dont have the same view? What if I think PS2 showed the best stuff and the NGC was a disapointment? Are you gonna say "well your not a true gamer like me so you dont really know"? Do you really have to fight over video games? Well if you do you must have a really boring life.
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Ethugg is a moron.
Just treat him that way he enjoys it
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Originally posted by EThugg
Ummm... what? Did I miss the end of the show where they handed out an award? Sony\'s showing was not better than the other 2. Period. Anyone who says that is a moron. Period. Praise from one guy on ign, regardless of what section, means nothing. Praise from some PS2 fans means little to. I saw the same games/announcements everyone else did. Nothing Sony did got any real gamer more excited than GC and XB. What am I saying? You are not a real gamer. Don\'t like it? Tough ****.
umm.. what? did you read the article? it said that the FANBOYS would slobber all over what their Favorite console did at e3. this explains alot:D
ign will be giving out the awards for the best game of show, and stuff tommorow.
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I would say more, but I already stated my position, and it stands.
ddaryl: **** you.