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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: tHe GaMe on May 23, 2001, 01:33:07 PM
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FROM THE IGN BOARDS @ PS2
Alright, enough of Bill\'s crap, check out our hardware comparison PS2 VS Xbox
Okay, I think all of us have heard enough of the crap Mr Bill has to say, now let\'s compare the PS2 and the Xbox ourselves.
First of all let\'s take a look at the Xbox. Don\'t you realize the system was made thinking on how it could look better than the PS2 rather than on making a good system???, oh well it certainly seems like it, take a look:
-Main processor:
Xbox 750 mhz , PS2 292 mhz
-Main Memory: Xbox 64 MB of RAM , PS2 32 MB of DRAM
-Memory bandwidth: Xbox 6.4 GB , PS2 3.2 GB
-Graphics Chip: Xbox 300 mhz , PS2 150 mhz
see what I mean... but now let\'s look beyond those specs, what microsoft doesn\'t want you to realize:
Main processor:
The P III in the Xbox is a 32-bit processor while the PS2\'s "Emotion Engine" is a 128-bit one, it\'s that simple.
Now let me explain the bit-mhz relationship.
The bits determine the number of characters the chip can handle simultaneously, one character equals 8 bits. So if we have a 32-bit chip for example we would divide this number by 8 to get the number of characters, and that would be...4 and for a 128-bit processor it would be 16.
Each of these characters is processed at the number of mhz the chip runs.
If we want to compare the "Emotion Engine" with the P III in the Xbox we have to find the total number of mhz in both by multiplying the mhz, by the number of characters which we already found out.
Too hard to understand? let me make it simpler...
For the Xbox: 750x4= 3000 mhz
and the PS2: 294.912x16= 4718.592 mhz
Alright, so the "Emotion Engine" beats the P III in mhz, which still doesn\'t take us anywhere because mhz is NOT actual performance.
Gigaflops are performance. These affect the AI and loading times of a game.
Gigaflops:
For the "Emotion Engine": 6.5 Gflops
for the P III: 1.6 Gflops
Now this IS performance and the PS2 beats the Xbox
But we still have to find out the performance affecting the graphics and the framerate.
To measure this type of performance POVbench marks are used. A POVmark is a value obtained by a chipset, representing the time it takes rendering a standard image. The lower the time it takes, the higher the POVmark, and the higher the POVmark the better.
The P III of the Xbox took 00:00:35 seconds to render the image used, obtaining a POVmark of 422.86
The "Emotion Engine" did it in just 00:00:05 seconds to get one hell of a POVmark...2960
Alright so its clear, the PS2 GPU beats the one in the Xbox. The P III processor may be good in other tasks that do not involve graphics, so the use of a processor like this in a console wastes it\'s power. The lesson companies like microsoft have to learn: Do not try to make a computer processor (CISC), beat a RISC one like the PS2\'s in handling graphics because that is what RISC processors are made for.
-Coprocessors:
The PS2 has 3 coprocessors, 2 vector units and 1 floating point unit. The PSX and PS2 developer Naughty Dog claims that not using the Vu\'s it\'s like using only a little more than half of the PS2\'s power. The Xbox on the other hand has no coprocessors.
These are the PS2 coprocessor specs:
-Main Memory:
The main memory in the Playstation 2 is 32 MB of DRAM. It means Dynamic RAM, it\'s structure allows it to send and recieve data simultaneusly making it twice as fast...as fast as 64 MB or RAM, however storage is always 32 MB. This memory is used only by the "Emotion Engine", because the "Graphics Synthesiser" (the PS2\'s graphics chip) uses it\'s own 4 MB of VRAM.
In the Xbox the, graphics chip and GPU share 64 MB of RAM, this structure lets developers choose how much memory each one will use, while in the PS2 it is already determined. Now here comes the bad part for the Xbox: Sharing RAM means that the graphics chip and GPU also have to share it\'s 6.4 GB of bandwidth which is extreeeeeeeeeeemely slow for the Xbox graphics chip when compared to the 48 GB of bandwidth the "Graphics Synthesiser" in the PS2 uses and DOES NOT SHARE . The "Emotion Engine" uses it\'s own 3.2 GB of bandwidth.
The slow main memory bandwidth in the Xbox slows down significantly the best thing inside it: it\'s NVidia graphics chip
Conclusion: Look beyond the numbers when comparing hardware. Now you see why sony spent almost 5 years creating the PS2, they made their own GPU, graphics chip and other parts so that the PS2 performed well handling graphics and if you don\'t bother to do that... you know what kind of crappy console you\'ll end up creating.
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I never go by specs... I go by \'the buzz\'. The mags, sites, and most developers have said XB is more powerful, I trust them for now...
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Originally posted by EThugg
I never go by specs... I go by \'the buzz\'. The mags, sites, and most developers have said XB is more powerful, I trust them for now...
That\'s your problem not mines.
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GO GAME GO..........the little engine that could
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I don\'t care about specs. I\'ll just enjoy all Next gen consoles regardless of specs. Ogodly, your Xbox should be taken from you and smashed (or stolen by me so I can play it!)
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your Xbox should be taken from you and smashed (or stolen by me so I can play it!)
I\'ll take that as a compliment
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I cannot believe people are still making posts like that. (just for the record; the GPU is the center of the Xbox, not the CPU as is the case with the PS2 but you\'ll notice he skips over the whole GPU part, Xbox uses 200mhzDDR, he puts too much wieght on bits) I would think that by now everyone would have accepted that the Xbox is a very powerfull graphics machine and moved on to what the games are going to be.
Edit: No offence The Game, I was talking about the guy who actually took the time to type this out.
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Everybody knows that both the PS.2 and X-Box are very powerful machines.And they are also very different,it\'s just silly to compare the two because they operate so differently.
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I\'ll get whatever has the best games
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Originally posted by nO-One
Everybody knows that both the PS.2 and X-Box are very powerful machines.And they are also very different,it\'s just silly to compare the two because they operate so differently.
exactly thats like comapring games of two different genres - things won\'t add up right that way
but games will look good on both systems so do we really have to fight over which will look better - just enjoy the good graphics
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I\'m not sure I believe what they said about DRAM. I think they confusing it with DDR RAM, which transmits data on the rising and falling of the current, doubling the frequency.
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Originally posted by tHe GaMe
That\'s your problem not mines.
You have a problem? I didn\'t until now, *****.
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Originally posted by tHe GaMe
FROM THE IGN BOARDS @ PS2
Alright, enough of Bill\'s crap, check out our hardware comparison PS2 VS Xbox
Okay, I think all of us have heard enough of the crap Mr Bill has to say, now let\'s compare the PS2 and the Xbox ourselves.
First of all let\'s take a look at the Xbox. Don\'t you realize the system was made thinking on how it could look better than the PS2 rather than on making a good system???, oh well it certainly seems like it, take a look:
-Main processor:
Xbox 750 mhz , PS2 292 mhz
-Main Memory: Xbox 64 MB of RAM , PS2 32 MB of DRAM
-Memory bandwidth: Xbox 6.4 GB , PS2 3.2 GB
-Graphics Chip: Xbox 300 mhz , PS2 150 mhz
see what I mean... but now let\'s look beyond those specs, what microsoft doesn\'t want you to realize:
Main processor:
The P III in the Xbox is a 32-bit processor while the PS2\'s "Emotion Engine" is a 128-bit one, it\'s that simple.
Now let me explain the bit-mhz relationship.
The bits determine the number of characters the chip can handle simultaneously, one character equals 8 bits. So if we have a 32-bit chip for example we would divide this number by 8 to get the number of characters, and that would be...4 and for a 128-bit processor it would be 16.
Each of these characters is processed at the number of mhz the chip runs.
If we want to compare the "Emotion Engine" with the P III in the Xbox we have to find the total number of mhz in both by multiplying the mhz, by the number of characters which we already found out.
Too hard to understand? let me make it simpler...
For the Xbox: 750x4= 3000 mhz
and the PS2: 294.912x16= 4718.592 mhz
Alright, so the "Emotion Engine" beats the P III in mhz, which still doesn\'t take us anywhere because mhz is NOT actual performance.
Gigaflops are performance. These affect the AI and loading times of a game.
Gigaflops:
For the "Emotion Engine": 6.5 Gflops
for the P III: 1.6 Gflops
Now this IS performance and the PS2 beats the Xbox
But we still have to find out the performance affecting the graphics and the framerate.
To measure this type of performance POVbench marks are used. A POVmark is a value obtained by a chipset, representing the time it takes rendering a standard image. The lower the time it takes, the higher the POVmark, and the higher the POVmark the better.
The P III of the Xbox took 00:00:35 seconds to render the image used, obtaining a POVmark of 422.86
The "Emotion Engine" did it in just 00:00:05 seconds to get one hell of a POVmark...2960
Alright so its clear, the PS2 GPU beats the one in the Xbox. The P III processor may be good in other tasks that do not involve graphics, so the use of a processor like this in a console wastes it\'s power. The lesson companies like microsoft have to learn: Do not try to make a computer processor (CISC), beat a RISC one like the PS2\'s in handling graphics because that is what RISC processors are made for.
-Coprocessors:
The PS2 has 3 coprocessors, 2 vector units and 1 floating point unit. The PSX and PS2 developer Naughty Dog claims that not using the Vu\'s it\'s like using only a little more than half of the PS2\'s power. The Xbox on the other hand has no coprocessors.
These are the PS2 coprocessor specs:
-Main Memory:
The main memory in the Playstation 2 is 32 MB of DRAM. It means Dynamic RAM, it\'s structure allows it to send and recieve data simultaneusly making it twice as fast...as fast as 64 MB or RAM, however storage is always 32 MB. This memory is used only by the "Emotion Engine", because the "Graphics Synthesiser" (the PS2\'s graphics chip) uses it\'s own 4 MB of VRAM.
In the Xbox the, graphics chip and GPU share 64 MB of RAM, this structure lets developers choose how much memory each one will use, while in the PS2 it is already determined. Now here comes the bad part for the Xbox: Sharing RAM means that the graphics chip and GPU also have to share it\'s 6.4 GB of bandwidth which is extreeeeeeeeeeemely slow for the Xbox graphics chip when compared to the 48 GB of bandwidth the "Graphics Synthesiser" in the PS2 uses and DOES NOT SHARE . The "Emotion Engine" uses it\'s own 3.2 GB of bandwidth.
The slow main memory bandwidth in the Xbox slows down significantly the best thing inside it: it\'s NVidia graphics chip
Conclusion: Look beyond the numbers when comparing hardware. Now you see why sony spent almost 5 years creating the PS2, they made their own GPU, graphics chip and other parts so that the PS2 performed well handling graphics and if you don\'t bother to do that... you know what kind of crappy console you\'ll end up creating.
I didn\'t mean to skip over your post, since 99.9 percent of it is fanboy raving, but there are many things that you are missing. Like being up to date with the 21st century.
128 bits according to graphics like the wording being used in console mean nothing today.
In the past 8-bit or 16-bit was used, but its meaningless today. Kind of like using Baud to describe the speed of the modem. :)
Since the Emotion Engine is such a technology leader,then why does the PC parts driven xbox kill it in every performance point possible.
Don\'t take my word for it. Ask Tecmo programmers. :)
oh I guess you didn\'t read that....
Your bad :)
http://msxbox.mygamewear.com/showthread.php?threadid=14912&pagenumber=1
Life sure does suck for you, doesn\'t it?
muhahahahahaha dumbasses. Don\'t feed the dumbasses kids...
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I tell ya DOCWIZ you always make my day. Good to see your still around friend!!!!
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yea i liked some of that article as well
it was easy for us to develop on the PS2.
and also
I\'m thinking about showing it at TGS Fall, but since I don\'t know what platform I will be releasing this game on, it remains to be seen if it\'ll be shown at TGS Fall 2001. Of course, I\'m developing on one current system for now [Xbox] but that\'s not final.
wells there is another developer that states all systems in this generation are easy to deveop for and also that DOA3 isn\'t exclusive for sure
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remember, the emotion engine is three processors, all running at 300mhz, and all running at 128 bits
Dogjiz says:
Since the Emotion Engine is such a technology leader,then why does the PC parts driven xbox kill it in every performance point possible.
because...uhh...its the X-Box\'s GPU which is its heart, not the meagre P3. the XBox GPU is far more powerful than the GS, and takes most of the load. I find it hard to believe you wouldnt know that...so maybe im making a fool out of myself
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
remember, the emotion engine is three processors, all running at 300mhz, and all running at 128 bits
Externally - no, internally - perhaps. However by that definition, the Pentium can be described as being two processors (main processing unit + fpu). ;)
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
remember, the emotion engine is three processors, all running at 300mhz, and all running at 128 bits
because...uhh...its the X-Box\'s GPU which is its heart, not the meagre P3. the XBox GPU is far more powerful than the GS, and takes most of the load. I find it hard to believe you wouldnt know that...so maybe im making a fool out of myself
Thats true and the real funny thing is that 99 percent of the people on this board say the xbox sucks because of the Pentium III. :)
Also in order to get the 6 gigaflops of floating point power, you have to have the vector units working at the same time in unison for the PS2.
Sony loves to lie, cheat, threaten, and fake all the time. Everyday I hear about Sony is everyday I get more discusted with them.
Sony is so immoral, they make Microsoft look like a saint, if Sony was based in the USA instead of japan, there would be anti-trust lawsuits going on.
Sorry, don\'t mean to offend you folks, just saw sony taking bleem out of the stores like they did with Microsoft\'s xbox promos and of course saying things like "Xbox will fail" and consumers have lost confidence in xbox, etc..... Sony sucks big time...
I went to E3 this year and sony doesn\'t have room to talk. I went to E3 last year again no room to talk, at launch, no room to talk...
The xbox is very PC like Sony says, but sony is too stupid to understand that they just approved AOL, flash, realplayer, and Netscape for their PS2 computer, not to mention basic and a printer, camera, usb ports etc....
Dumba$$s
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Originally posted by Docwiz
Sony is so immoral, they make Microsoft look like a saint, if Sony was based in the USA instead of japan, there would be anti-trust lawsuits going on.
Oh, you mean like the ones going on against Microsoft?
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Oh, you mean like the ones going on against Microsoft
I believe that\'s the guys he\'s talking about, he, he
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
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öhhhh. Bumb
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
I tell ya DOCWIZ you always make my day. Good to see your still around friend!!!!
Wow, you made a friend! This one is going down in the "PSX2Central Records Book"! Congradulations! I know this is a big leap with your social life. You\'ve gone from having no friends, to one!
Take a bow! :laughing:
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Wow, you made a friend! This one is going down in the "PSX2Central Records Book"! Congradulations! I know this is a big leap with your social life. You\'ve gone from having no friends, to one!
LOL, your truly are one imature little kid, oh wait what\'s that?? JUMPMAN I think your mommy is calling you.....BED TIME!!
One more thing this comment of your illustrates to many that you indeed must have no life, if you consider this place to indicate one\'s social stance. See unlike you I have an outside life, a girlfriend (which you would be lucky if you ever got one), family, friends etc...
Please Jumpman when you hit Puberty , then i\'ll take what you have say seriously. Oh and hey I’m not offended with what you say about me, I understand that at a young age Kids can be mouthy and not really put much thought into what they say.
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Yeah! I hit a nerve!
LOL, your truly are one imature little kid, oh wait what\'s that?? JUMPMAN I think your mommy is calling you.....BED TIME!!
LOL! That was pretty dumb. You called me immature then you insult me in a childesh and moronic manner. Boy do you have issues.
One more thing this comment of your illustrates to many that you indeed must have no life, if you consider this place to indicate one\'s social stance. See unlike you I have an outside life, a girlfriend (which you would be lucky if you ever got one), family, friends etc...
Another dumb statement by the troll king. I only come here after school and a night. Between those time I\'m always with my friends. Your assuming too much.
I have no life? Your here 24/7, being a fanboy and starting fights. You obviously have no social skills and your extremely irratating.
Please Jumpman when you hit Puberty , then i\'ll take what you have say seriously.
Assuming **** never wins arguments, fool. Your just making yourself look like an idiot when you do it.
Oh and hey I’m not offended with what you say about me, I understand that at a young age Kids can be mouthy and not really put much thought into what they say.
Oh don\'t hide it. If it didn\'t bother you so much then why bother replying or editing your post? I definitely hit a nerve when I said Docwiz was your first friend, it obviously had some impact then.
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Another dumb statement by the troll king. I only come here after school and a night. Between those time I\'m always with my friends. Your assuming too much.
And so are you hypocrite..here i will explain
I have no life? Your here 24/7, being a fanboy and starting fights. You obviously have no social skills and your extremely irratating.
I work at home on my PC(income something you are too young to understand) which then leads me to my next point Your assuming too much
and here you are again doing the same, but that\'s right it\'s ok for you to be hypocrite.
Assuming **** never wins arguments, fool.
Just like what you did in your last post eh.
Your just making yourself look like an idiot when you do it.
You do realize that if this is the case, than the same would apply to you as well, just think back on our other arguments how many people said you were an ass. If you don\'t want to believe me, I can go back and show you. See I don\'t know what makes you think you’re so special that the same doesn’t apply to you, oh well.
Your a thread killer, for instance after this post you will continue to just quote everything i said braking them up into sections, and then i will do the same again and so on and so on. Well it ends here for me, cause Sam is getting pissed with ****.
Yet it\'s always you who starts the *****ing, was it necessary to quote my post to DOCwiz and use it to insult me...of course not but you just wanted to cause trouble cause that\'s what snotty little kids like you, enjoy. THAT is a fact!!!!!
LOL! That was pretty dumb. You called me immature then you insult me in a childesh and moronic manner. Boy do you have issues.
The real McCoy in stupidity is you. Your just using this as leverage in order to make yourself and your actions look reasonable. You gave me a stupid post, so in return I threw it right back at you, and like always you can\'t help yourself.
Also I\'ll tell you what I’m guilty of, wasting my time replaying to you. END FILM........
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ok please lets stop that war guys, there have been at least 10 arguements about the same thing this past month. ease up guys. please. if you dont like what someone says ignore it, i dont want to be reading through flaming for 1/2 hour.
p.s ogodly, how old are u? you talk like youre an 80 year old who is above everyone.
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p.s ogodly, how old are u? you talk like youre an 80 year old who is above everyone.
Why thank you, but I had no idea 80 year olds were above people???
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I AM SO GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE IN HERE IS SO FULL OF CRAP
- None of you are programmers. If you were, you would realize that hardware is only a tool and it\'s what you use it for that creates power. By itself hardware is nothing.
- It\'s hard enough comparing just 2 different x86 processors such as Intel vs AMD; now everyone wants to take shots at others
- Comparing your "fav" system\'s specs is just like measuring your penis
- GET A LIFE
WORD
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
I AM SO GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE IN HERE IS SO FULL OF CRAP
- None of you are programmers. If you were, you would realize that hardware is only a tool and it\'s what you use it for that creates power. By itself hardware is nothing.
- It\'s hard enough comparing just 2 different x86 processors such as Intel vs AMD; now everyone wants to take shots at others
- Comparing your "fav" system\'s specs is just like measuring your penis
- GET A LIFE
WORD [/B]
Well, you could of been alittle bit more delicate with that..
:laughing:
But, yeah you have a point. The hardware is a tool. Nothing more.
You have.
The hardware.
The compiler.
The programming libary files.
The documentation.
But the programmers are the ones who actually make something. Not the hardware. It is like building a house. You have lumber, nails, etc. But in the end, it is up to the designer to make sure the house is stable / looks good/ etc.
Did that analogy make any sense?
:)
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actually it did, but how could they acuratelly represent the system\'s power with tech demo\'s then.
im just tired of theogodly thing getting into fights for no reason.
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
I AM SO GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE IN HERE IS SO FULL OF CRAP
- None of you are programmers. If you were, you would realize that hardware is only a tool and it\'s what you use it for that creates power. By itself hardware is nothing.
- It\'s hard enough comparing just 2 different x86 processors such as Intel vs AMD; now everyone wants to take shots at others
- Comparing your "fav" system\'s specs is just like measuring your penis
- GET A LIFE
WORD [/B]
I am a coder, however, there are deadlines and the easier it is to take advantage of, the easier my life is going to be and you know what. I like spending time with my family. Yes you still have to research and you still have to do calculations, but there is a difference in re-inventing the wheel just because you don\'t have anything else to do and making money.
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and then there is somthing called being lazy...
JK- im not a coder, so i wouldnt know
i just know thats all the ps2 fanboys say to defend that point.:D
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
And so are you hypocrite..here i will explain
I work at home on my PC(income something you are too young to understand) which then leads me to my next point
and here you are again doing the same, but that\'s right it\'s ok for you to be hypocrite.
Just like what you did in your last post eh.
You do realize that if this is the case, than the same would apply to you as well, just think back on our other arguments how many people said you were an ass. If you don\'t want to believe me, I can go back and show you. See I don\'t know what makes you think you’re so special that the same doesn’t apply to you, oh well.
Your a thread killer, for instance after this post you will continue to just quote everything i said braking them up into sections, and then i will do the same again and so on and so on. Well it ends here for me, cause Sam is getting pissed with ****.
Yet it\'s always you who starts the *****ing, was it necessary to quote my post to DOCwiz and use it to insult me...of course not but you just wanted to cause trouble cause that\'s what snotty little kids like you, enjoy. THAT is a fact!!!!!
The real McCoy in stupidity is you. Your just using this as leverage in order to make yourself and your actions look reasonable. You gave me a stupid post, so in return I threw it right back at you, and like always you can\'t help yourself.
Also I\'ll tell you what I’m guilty of, wasting my time replaying to you. END FILM........
Wow, you made yourself look good by jumping on one thing of what I said and then using it as your entire argument. :rolleyes: I\'m not even gonna bother writing any more because I said everything that needed to be said. Your a scraper(and a troll). Ignoring most of my post but jumping on one part of it. Getting what ever you can. Well your not getting anything this time troll!
Oh Docwiz you had to edit your post huh? In case anyone is wondering what it said, he said "atleast all of my friends aren\'t idiots". Assumptions but...
Yeah well atleast I\'m not a troll! :p( yes, I am perposely trying to be just as immature as him, no need to point that out).
I like spending time with my family.
God I pitty his kids...
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
I AM SO GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE IN HERE IS SO FULL OF CRAP
- None of you are programmers. If you were, you would realize that hardware is only a tool and it\'s what you use it for that creates power. By itself hardware is nothing.
- It\'s hard enough comparing just 2 different x86 processors such as Intel vs AMD; now everyone wants to take shots at others
- Comparing your "fav" system\'s specs is just like measuring your penis
- GET A LIFE
WORD [/B]
Spread the word brotha
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im just tired of theogodly thing getting into fights for no reason.
Really, ok show me where i started the fight for no reason. Please do that first before you make shlt up.
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I am a coder, however, there are deadlines and the easier it is to take advantage of, the easier my life is going to be and you know what. I like spending time with my family. Yes you still have to research and you still have to do calculations, but there is a difference in re-inventing the wheel just because you don\'t have anything else to do and making money.
WORD UP, spoken like a true gem.....
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Originally posted by Falcon4
and then there is somthing called being lazy...
JK- im not a coder, so i wouldnt know
i just know thats all the ps2 fanboys say to defend that point.:D
Lazy has nothing to do with it. Lazy doesn\'t make money and neither is wasting money by doing something you shouldn\'t have to. (ala COST CUTTING) :)
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Wow, you made yourself look good by jumping on one thing of what I said and then using it as your entire argument. :rolleyes: I\'m not even gonna bother writing any more because I said everything that needed to be said. Your a scraper(and a troll). Ignoring most of my post but jumping on one part of it. Getting what ever you can. Well your not getting anything this time troll!
Oh Docwiz you had to edit your post huh? In case anyone is wondering what it said, he said "atleast all of my friends aren\'t idiots". Assumptions but...
Yeah well atleast I\'m not a troll! :p( yes, I am perposely trying to be just as immature as him, no need to point that out).
God I pitty his kids...
Well, you are not the biggest troll on here, but you are still around. I know, I read what you post all of the time, I just don\'t coment on it publically.
I watch you as you get into an argument about how Nintendo is God to ddaryl. I was at E3, Nintendo had an okay showing. If it wasn\'t for Factor 5, Nintendo would have been without any killer apps at all. Nintendo should buy out Factor 5 if they are smart.
Well they may be assumptions, but I think I can follow a pattern here with how you post (I shouldn\'t have to point out what this really means).
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Originally posted by Docwiz
...128 bits according to graphics like the wording being used in console mean nothing today.
In the past 8-bit or 16-bit was used, but its meaningless today. Kind of like using Baud to describe the speed of the modem. :)
Since the Emotion Engine is such a technology leader,then why does the PC parts driven xbox kill it in every performance point possible.
BUAW BUAAAWW BUAAAAWWWWWW!!!! ...maybe the X-Box is more powerful because it has the advantage of more than one year and half technologically ?
IMO...PS2 easy destroys the best PC of the same Period ! ...do you remember?...P3 500 and Geforce256....and the X-Box? when it will be released the Best PC will outclass the MS console ! That Means The EE is a Technology Leader!
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Originally posted by BizioEE
That Means The EE is a Technology Leader!
Keep telling yourself that....
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Originally posted by BizioEE
BUAW BUAAAWW BUAAAAWWWWWW!!!! ...maybe the X-Box is more powerful because it has the advantage of more than one year and half technologically ?
IMO...PS2 easy destroys the best PC of the same Period ! ...do you remember?...P3 500 and Geforce256....and the X-Box? when it will be released the Best PC will outclass the MS console ! That Means The EE is a Technology Leader!
The EE is about as much as a Technology leader as my a$$ ****s gold. Even most PC games look better than what is been shown on the PS2. Don\'t make yourself look like a jacka$$.
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Originally posted by Docwiz
The EE is about as much as a Technology leader as my a$$ ****s gold. Even most PC games look better than what is been shown on the PS2. Don\'t make yourself look like a jacka$$.
The EE is a technology leader and P3 is 20 years old technology....I don\'t care about one moronic coder like you :D
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The nVidia GPU is super, but when you match a brand new toy with an old dog like the x86 architecture you get a bloated whore. All you XBox fans, get real, the xBox is a patch-up box. You got all kinds of technology mixed together. On paper the Xbox rules, so did the PS2, do you truly believe you will get Toy-Story graphics with it in real time play? are you people on drugs?
Micro$oft is pulling the same rabbit out of their ass that $ONY did. It is all marketing, it wouldn\'t be nice to say the XBox has 20 percent more power in simulated runs in a stinking laboratory then a PS2 right? So here we have Bill Gate$ saying his ubber machine will do 300, ehhh, i mean 150, dooh, i mean 100 million polygons. Yeah, sure and pigs fly. When they tell you the stinking polygon numbers for the Xbox they are talking nVidia GPU, and since the GPU has to be fed data memory bandwidth comes into play. Kids if the PC can\'t do 50 Million polygons right now, no stinking XBox will either.
Nuff said.