Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Paul2 on January 11, 2021, 05:06:58 PM

Title: CES 2021
Post by: Paul2 on January 11, 2021, 05:06:58 PM
LG's OLEDs get brighter, while its LEDs get myriad upgrades.

CES 2021 is a virtual affair this year, but the world's biggest tech companies are still taking bringing their best and brightest to the bear. For its part, LG today announced the next "evolution" in OLED TVs, currently the hottest display technology on the market.

During its press event for CES 2021's Media Day, LG unveiled a bevy of exciting home theater upgrades, not the least of which is "OLED evo," the current moniker for LG's upgraded and improved lineup of 2021 OLED TVs. In addition, LG showed off its new NanoCell LED TV options, soundbars, speakers, and headphones.

LG's new "OLED evo" promises brighter OLED TVs with a suite of improvements.

...LG debuted its first OLED TVs in 2013, and considered the first "evolution" to take place in 2015 when its OLED TVs were upgraded for High Dynamic Range capabilities.

The second "evolution," which LG is calling OLED evo in 2021, promises higher brightness (luminance), optimized "composition," and more precise OLED element wavelengths.

Unfortunately, we're not exactly sure how LG has achieved that yet, nor what it will ultimately mean for your viewing experience. The 2020 models generally peaked around 700 or 800 nits, which means they're about twice as bright as an entry-level TCL QLED TV, but about half as bright as one of Samsung's high-end QLED TVs.

Brightness is important for almost all TV functions: dynamic range, color saturation, viewing angle (to a degree), and combating ambient lighting in most rooms. In fact, it may be that increasing brightness is the only way LG's OLEDs (or any OLED TVs) will continue to maintain a competitive advantage over LED/LCD TVs in 2021, which—outfitted with mini-LEDs and quantum dot tech—are looking better than ever.

Whether the "evo" panels will introduce a remarkable increase in brightness remains to be seen (literally—we're not on the CES show floor at all this year), but it's an exciting prospect. Fortunately, LG has at least shed some light on its new OLED lineup:

G1: The G1 LG OLED series replaces the 2020 GX series, and is one of the first confirmed models to use the new evo panel specs. It will be available in 55, 65, and 77 inches, and also utilize LG's new A9 Gen 4 processor (more on that below);
C1: The new C1 replaces last year's CX (currently our top-rated television), and is available in a huge range of sizes: 48, 55, 65, 77, and 83 inches. These TVs will also use the A9 Gen 4 processor, but it's unclear if they'll have the evo panel upgrade.
A1: Replacing its longstanding "B" models, the A1 are the new most affordable series in LG's 2021 OLED TV lineup. The A1 OLEDs will be available in 48, 55, 65, 77, and 83-inch variants, and will use the older A7 processor. It's doubtful these TVs will utilize the evo panel, but we're not 100% certain yet.
ZX: This TV debuted in 2020, but will still be available in 2021. This is one of the first 8K OLED TVs available for purchase, and comes in huge 77 and 88-inch sizes. The 77-inch is $20,000, and we don't even want to know what the 88-inch model costs.

Naturally, we don't have pricing or availability info for the 2021 models just yet, but check back for updates in the coming weeks.

NanoCell is getting better, too

LG will offer a wide variety of NanoCell options in 2021.

We definitely get more excited about LG's OLED TVs than any of the company's LED/LCD models, and during a private presentation LG made sure to emphasize that none of its NanoCell TVs could compete with its prized OLEDs from a picture standpoint. That said, LG is still making improvements to its LED TVs, and in fact is calling the new NanoCell models "Nano Evo." It's an evo year, apparently.

LG claims huge brightness jumps for the new Nano Evo TVs. Recalling that last year's OLEDs topped out around 800 nits, LG is claiming that its Nano Evo models will hit a wild 3,000 nits—an impressive and striking number if true...

The "NanoCell" TVs are so-named because they use an organic film layer within the "LCD sandwich," but while it may operate like quantum dots, this isn't technically the same thing. They're also using mini-LEDs (like any respectable LED TV this year), which might be how they propose to hit that 3,000 nit benchmark. Will 2021 be the year LG's LED TVs make as many waves as the company's OLED televisions? Maybe so.

A new venture: QNED Mini-LED

LG's new QNED lineup is the company's first foray into quantum dot mini-LED.

LG debuted its new QNED TV lineup ahead of CES last week, but the gist is simple enough: LG is finally throwing its hat in the ring in terms of combining LED TVs utilizing Mini-LED backlights with quantum dot color (reminder: the NanoCell models don't and haven't been using quantum dot since their inception a few years back).

If a combination of quantum dot and mini-LED sounds familiar, it's probably because that's more or less exactly what you're getting from Samsung's 2021 QLED lineup. Still, that doesn't make the availability of more extra-bright, extra-colorful LED TVs any less exciting.

Considering the proprietary nature of LG's nano organic (NanoCell) technology, the QNED line should be the first TVs to ever combine quantum dots and NanoCell, which may make for some very fancy-looking LED TVs. LG still doesn't think the QNED TVs will look as good as its OLED line, but hey, we'll be the judge of that...

Magic Remote, webOS, and more

LG is also bringing improvements for webOS, the Magic Remote, and gamers.

Naturally, LG announced a lot more than new OLED and NanoCell LED TVs. Last week, LG announced improvements to its webOS smart platform and Magic Remote, the new A9 Gen 4 processor, and upgrades meant for gamers... (

is that time of the year again where ces is introducing a lot of new and interesting technologies to us consumers.  because of the corona virus, this year ces will be announced digitally instead of hand on experience for show goers.

its good to hear that this year oled tv gets brighter than last year.  the strange thing is when lg first sell its 4k oled tv with hdr and wcg in 2016, its can get as bright as 800 nits.  then a year later, the 2017 model gets 25% brighter than its previous year which mean a total of 1,000 nits brightness.  but last year's model, its get dimmer than its previous few years.  its only get as bright as around 600 to 700 nits of brightness.  strange.  its a conspiracy i say.  makes me wonder how bright this year's oled going to get.  i hope its surpasses 1,000 nits of brightness.

i already bought an oled tv late last year and one of the suckiest thing about it is its not as bright as 2016 or 2017 models, and this year's model.  i can live with that, its still pretty bright though.

also good to hear that lg is selling nanocell tvs and some models can get as bright as 3,000 nits.  sure its still lcd screen, but the brightness is pretty awesome.  great for hdr.
Title: Re: CES 2021
Post by: Paul2 on January 12, 2021, 09:14:26 PM
Gamers and A/V enthusiasts should be excited about Sony's latest.

Google TV is replacing Android TV

For Sony's 2021 TV lineup, the Android TV smart platform will be replaced by Google TV.

...Sony is adding Google's newest streaming platform, Google TV, to all of the TVs in its 2021 lineup. It appears to essentially the same version of Google TV that recently debuted on the newest Chromecast, though some of Sony's previously implemented software features will be folded into the Google TV architecture, like the ability to assign shortcuts to HDMI inputs.

We loved how much Google TV simplified and streamlined the Chromecast experience and we're eager to see how it fares as a dedicated TV smart platform. While we've always enjoyed the flexibility of Android TV, its cluttered user interface and clunky navigation fell short of the streamlined experience we've come to appreciate from Roku TVs. Time will tell if Google TV can compete with our favorite smart platform.

Brighter OLEDs

Sony reports that both of its 2021 OLED TVs feature hardware and software enhancements that will improve their overall brightness.

A disappointing truth about OLED TVs is how much dimmer they are compared to contemporary LCD/LED TVs, especially when compared to LED TVs equipped with quantum dots. While their incredible contrast makes up for it in part, even the Sony A8H—the best Sony TV we reviewed last year—doesn't get as bright as most of the high-end, non-OLED TVs we reviewed in 2020. For several years now, shoppers in the market for a premium TV have had to choose between the perfect black levels of an OLED TV or the blazing brightness of a quantum dot TV. Given the standoff, it's no wonder OLED TV manufacturers have been pouring resources into making brighter panels. This year, Sony is calling its shot.

Both of the company's 2021 OLED series—the A90J and the A80J—pair new panel hardware with improved picture processing software, which Sony says contribute to better overall contrast and higher peak brightness levels. How did Sony do it? According to the company, these panels feature an aluminum sheet that boosts the OLED display's brightness.

HDMI 2.1 and next-gen features

One of the most disappointing aspects of Sony's 2020 TV lineup was the lack of love for HDMI 2.1, which allows for 4K resolution at 120 Hz as well as next-gen gaming features like Auto Low Latency Mode and Variable Refresh Rate (the latter of which Sony has promised to introduce in a software update for some of its 2020 TVs, like the X900H).

In 2021, Sony TVs are loaded for bear. All of the entries in the Bravia XR lineup will feature HDMI 2.1, ALLM, VRR, and eARC support for more efficient connection to eARC-ready audio gear, allowing gamers and A/V enthusiasts alike to shop for a Sony TV with the confidence that they'll be getting the most out of their Xbox Series X or PlayStation 5.

Sony Bravia XR A90J Master Series OLED TV

Sony Bravia A90J Master Series

Sizes: 55-inch, 65-inch, 83-inch
Resolution: 4K
Display type: OLED
Voice search: Yes
Dolby Atmos: Yes

Sony Bravia XR A80J OLED TV

Sony Bravia A80J

Sizes: 55-inch, 65-inch, 77-inch
Resolution: 4K
Display type: OLED
Voice search: No
Dolby Atmos: Yes

...We're excited to see how these TVs will hold up in our lab tests later this year, especially if Sony's latest OLED TVs are able to set a new high water mark for peak brightness in that category. If the integration of Google TV proves successful, we might be looking at some of the best Sony TVs we've seen in quite some time. (

finally sony 2021 oled tvs have hdmi 2.1 connections that supported 4k120, vrr, allm, and eArc.  sony is 2 years behind lg when it comes to implementing hdmi 2.1 connections.  lg 2019 oled tvs and later models have been implementing hdmi 2.1 since then.

nice to hear that sony 2021 oled tvs will be brighter than older generation oleds.  make me curious how much brighter it will get though.

very good to hear both models of sony oled tvs will include atsc 3 tuner i think which support up to 10 bit, 4k120 broadcast.  last year, some of lg higher end oled models support and debuted atsc 3 tuner and this year i think its the same that some of its models also support atsc 3 tuner too.  finally, this year, sony includes atsc 3 tuner on all of their oled tv models i think.  although it doesn't say it on this webpage but a different website did say probably all of sony 2021 oleds tv support atsc 3 tuner.
Title: Re: CES 2021
Post by: Paul2 on January 14, 2021, 01:29:17 PM
Panasonic Introduces Flagship JZ2000 OLED TV


Panasonic used CES to announce a new OLED TV for 2021, the JZ2000. Available in 65- and 55-inch screen sizes, the company’s latest TV will serve as its flagship model and is aimed at both gamers and movie fans alike.
The JZ2000 features Filmmaker Mode and its HDR support extends to Dolby Vision, Dolby Vision IQ, and HDR10+ Adaptive. It also supports HLG Photo, a “still image format which brings still photography into the HDR world,” according to company...

From the company’s press release:

"The JZ2000 features Panasonic's proprietary Master HDR OLED Professional Edition panel, propelling it ahead of other OLEDs in the market when it comes to brightness. The bespoke Master HDR OLED Professional Edition panel has been exclusively customized by Panasonic research and development engineers, resulting in even greater control of picture quality. Compared to standard OLED TVs, the Master HDR OLED Professional Edition panel delivers higher peak and average brightness levels resulting in increased dynamic range."

On the gaming front, the JZ2000’s HDMI 2.1 connections support variable refresh rate (VRR) and high frame rate (HFR) video, and the set features a dedicated gaming picture mode.

User features include the latest version of Panasonic's My Home Screen 6.0 smart TV OS, along with a dual Bluetooth connection to stream audio to two separate sets of Bluetooth headphones simultaneously.

Panasonic says that distribution of the JZ2000 “is not yet finalized for the US market.” And while Panasonic’s OLED TVs have generally been unavailable stateside for the past few years, we’ll take that “not yet” to mean U.S. consumers may eventually be able to get their hands on a JZ2000. (

good to know panasonic is going to release their oled tvs in america possibly sometimes soon.  panasonic has been making oled tvs for several years i think but hasn't release it in u.s.a. yet but only other countries, but that might change in the nearby future.
Title: Re: CES 2021
Post by: Paul2 on January 15, 2021, 02:34:28 AM
Ahead of virtual CES, Samsung announced its high-tech plans for your home theater in 2021.

...The big feather in Samsung's TV cap this year looks to be MicroLED, a kind of modular display technology that the company first unveiled in 2018. Three years on, however, Samsung seems confident that 2021 will be the year MicroLED tech finally starts to make its way into consumers' homes. The company also debuted an upgrade to its QLED TV composition called "Neo QLED," offered a glimpse of new 2021 soundbars, and promised commitments to eco-sustainability via new TV remote designs and better eco-packaging.

MicroLED TVs for everyone

Samsung hopes 2021 will be the year MicroLED TVs come to consumers' homes.

The headline announcement regarding Samsung's 2021 home theater lineup is definitely MicroLED. While this tech debuted as a modular TV structure requiring professional installation a few years ago (dubbed "The Wall"), Samsung has stated that "in 2021, the promise of MicroLED comes home."

Back in December, Samsung first announced a 110-inch version of its MicroLED tech; today's First Look event showcased an 88-inch and 99-inch variant. Allegedly, these TVs will be available in traditional TV form factors that won't require professional installation—simply "take it out of the box and mount it," though with TVs this big you may want to ask a few other people for help with that.

For AV enthusiasts, Samsung has touted some fairly big claims for what its MicroLED TVs will be capable of: "infinite contrast" (not a first in this industry), compelling HDR performance with brightness up to 2,000 nits; 20-bit grayscale processing; object tracking sound; and, even, a multi-view functionality allowing you to watch four sources of content simultaneously.

Yet for enthusiasts and more casual carousers, what's more interesting that the proposed picture quality is how these MicroLED TVs function in physical space. The modular design gives them a claimed 99.99% image-to-body ratio (meaning there's essentially no border around the screen), while also allowing multiple sources to be routed to various parts of the screen. Samsung stated that "a 110-inch [MicroLED] screen can become four 55-inch screens."

As usual, pricing and availability haven't been confirmed, but we're pretty certain about three things: These MicroLED TVs will be rather expensive; they have to be mounted on the wall; and they could potentially usurp OLED's spot as the king of display technology... (

cool to know that samsung is going to be releasing their microled tvs to consumers this year not just one 110" size but also comes in 88" and 99" too.  these microled tvs are pretty much borderless with a 99.99% image to body ratio.  awesome.
Title: Re: CES 2021
Post by: Paul2 on January 15, 2021, 05:12:42 AM
Skyworth wants to compete with LG in the OLED TV market


Today, Chinese consumer electronics manufacturer Skyworth announced that it would be debuting an expansive lineup of 4K TVs—including an OLED model—that will be available in the US market this year.

Reviewed spoke with Skyworth's Senior VP of Sales and Marketing, John Homlish, ahead of CES 2021's Media Day. Homlish confirmed that Skyworth TVs would be available this year through traditional retail channels (like Amazon), and that the company intended to debut five new TV series: the TC6200, UC6200, UC7500, UC8500, and XC9300 (OLED) series.

Homlish also spoke at length about Skyworth's efforts to move from OEM to ODM within the consumer tech space, suggesting that the company's OLED panel factory in China would give the XC9300 series a leg up in terms of design and performance viability when compared to competing US OLED brands, such as LG Electronics.

In non-business speak, this means that Skyworth is hoping to move away from simply supplying components to other brands and move into becoming a more recognized consumer electronics brand alongside names like Samsung and Sony.

While there's no information on pricing yet (which is normal for CES), Homlish confirmed that the new TVs would feature the Android smart platform (in a partnership with Google) and hit over 90% of the DCI-P3 (HDR) color gamut, with upper-tier models featuring sought-after features such as 120 Hz and variable refresh rate capabilities. In short, Skyworth thinks it's TVs will look just as good—inside and out—as other 2021 models.

Here's what we know about the TV series right now:
XC9300: Premium OLED, available in 55 and 65 inches. Includes 4K/HDR compatibility.

As with any TV lineup, we can't make any calls until we get some into our labs for testing. However, 2021 could be the year when it's worth considering a Skyworth OLED TV. While so much of LED/LCD TV tech thrives on proprietary R&D, OLED panels are much more "raw." Their emissive nature means the panels themselves handle both luminance and color production, so you won't find as many discrepancies in base picture quality between, say, a Sony OLED and a Vizio OLED (both of which, by the way, use LG OLED panels). Skyworth partnered with LG Display in 2009 to construct the new Chinese OLED factory, which may ensure the quality of its proprietary panels while also reducing the cost in the states.

While this doesn't mean you should bet on buying a Skyworth OLED sight unseen, it does mean that the XC9300's price may be competitive enough to tempt you when it arrives stateside. At the very least, keep an eye out for reviews: this could be the opportunity to score a great OLED TV without the brand-name boosting up its price. (

good to know another manufacturer is making an oled tv.  more competition in the oled tv market.  the color, video processing, and brightness might not be as good as lg or sony but the price might be very competitive though.
Title: Re: CES 2021
Post by: Paul2 on January 15, 2021, 05:39:54 AM
Hisense Pushes the Outer Limits of Laser TV


China’s Hisense announced plans to launch a range of TriChroma Laser TVs with 55- to 100-inch screen sizes in 2021 at its virtual CES press conference. The announcement, made by Fisher Yu, Vice President of Hisense Visual Technology, is the first indication that the tech, which has been displayed in prototype form at previous CES events, will make it into actual ultra short throw projection TV products destined for the U.S. market.


Yu’s announcement was followed by a presentation from Dr. Liu Xianrong, Chief Scientist of Hisense Laser Display, who declared that “2021 starts the era of TriChroma Laser TV.” According to the presentation, TriChroma Laser TV uses a new RGB laser light source architecture with separate lasers for each primary color and DLP chips with double-area micromirrors. These factors combine to yield a 20 percent brightness increase at the pixel level, resulting in projected images with up to 430 nits—more brightness than many flat-panel UHDTVs can manage. Yet even with that dramatic brightness increase, eye comfort is 20 percent better than viewing printed paper.

Another key TriChroma Laser TV benefit according to Hisense is a dramatically expanded color gamut. The company says its forthcoming models will offer a 128 percent color gamut coverage improvement over its previous dual-laser solution, hitting 151 percent of DCI-P3 and 107 percent of BT.2020.

What’s next for Hisense? Stereoscopic displays, followed by 3D-dimensional holographic displays, according to the company’s presentation. Next CES, perhaps.

Hisense didn’t announce any product availability or pricing, though a rep indicated that more specific information would be coming this spring. (

its very cool to know that this projector can output up to 430 nits of brightness.  most projectors can go around 50 to 150 nits of brightness i think but this one can output up from 3 to 9 times as bright.  impressive.  almost as bright as a mid end led-lcd tv there.

what is just as amazing is that it can produce up to 151% of DCI-P3 color space and 107% of BT.2020 color space.  way exceed pretty much any flat panel tvs and any projectors in color there.  most flat panel tvs can produce up to 100% dci-p3 color space and some projectors can produce up to about 80 to 90% BT.2020 color space but this projector way exceed it with 107% of BT.2020 color space which is even better than what BT.2020 color space can offer.  very impressive. B)  Makes me wonder how much does something like this would cost.