**** you jumpman,i didnt see the point of the thred bacause,only the well know memebers get talked about in those threads,and it is always the same people,so i stared my own,i didnt mean any harm by it,is was a simple thread,and it didnt need you to start being like that,OK!,if you didnt like the thread then dont go in to it,if you didnt then it wouldnt have got put back to the top,and you just wait till you do something wrong,you better watch your back!