X-Box CPU...Pentium3 or...Celeron ??

Originally posted by BizioEE


You understand nothing about Hardware !

The Power of the X-Box comes from every piece of hardware=The P3,The NV2a,the MCPX,the whole architecture ! The P3 has to do calculations about phisics,AI,collision-system,etc and the fact that the large majority of floating point work performed by the Xbox will be done by the NV2A graphics processing unit  doesn\'t mean the P3 basically does nothing in the X-Box ! The P3 is a very powerful CPU considering the Tasks it has to do...

...please...the next time...post if you have something interesting to say...thanks

I know that I am just saying it is nothing to hide because the bulk of the xbox power comes from the gpu.

[BizioEE]

Originally posted by QuDDus


I know that I am just saying it is nothing to hide because the bulk of the xbox power comes from the gpu.

First of all excuse me for my "raw" reply...

I\'d like to know everything about the X-Box Hardware,even the smallest details...I know the specs are final...and this thread is not an attempt to "discredit" Microsoft...but only a way to ask prof everything they know about it...

...when I read :

"
Intel marketing representatives have suggested to FiringSquad that the chip may have been upgraded to a Pentium III processor with 256K of L2 cache. "

...I was curious...and that doesn\'t mean the specs are not final but simply that we didn\'t know that(if it\'s true) !

MS could be keeping low key about it, but its highly unlikely. The Xbox is still a very capable machine, I wouldnt\' worry about it.

Sure !!  Who does care in term of performance ! 128K of L2 cache...256K of L2 cache...X-Box is a monster in both cases...I was just curious,I wanna know everything !

see guys the cpu does nothing...didn\'t you know that?

p3, p5, celeron, 386....it don\'t mean a thing....the


gpu

does it all!

There\'s some truth to what all of you are saying.. but.

You cannot stick a GeForce 3 in a PentiumII-266 and expect great results. It won\'t happen. The card is still dependant on the CPU,. I\'m not comparing a P2-266 to the X-box, but you get the idea. The card doesn\'t do everything.

/ dm /

Originally posted by astroglide
see guys the cpu does nothing...didn\'t you know that?

p3, p5, celeron, 386....it don\'t mean a thing....the


gpu

does it all!

What about physics, AI, and IO

as long as they don\'t put a Pentium 233 MMX into the XBOX, it might turn out a couple million polygons hmmmm, i wonder what the real performance will be like... pushing polygons that is.

Originally posted by Toxical
as long as they don\'t put a Pentium 233 MMX into the XBOX, it might turn out a couple million polygons hmmmm, i wonder what the real performance will be like... pushing polygons that is.

Expect 2nd gen games to be in the mid 20\'s to 30\'s.  Mike Abrash says Xbox should be able to push 40-50 with a considerable amount of effects... And 1st gen games like Azurik are already doing 18mpps and more.

Originally posted by Nu Gundam

Expect 2nd gen games to be in the mid 20\'s to 30\'s.  Mike Abrash says Xbox should be able to push 40-50 with a considerable amount of effects... And 1st gen games like Azurik are already doing 18mpps and more.

That is a nice number, i think DOA for the XBox looks sweet, i think the character and levels have a very realistic look to them..

[BizioEE]

Originally posted by Nu Gundam

Expect 2nd gen games to be in the mid 20\'s to 30\'s.  Mike Abrash says Xbox should be able to push 40-50 with a considerable amount of effects... And 1st gen games like Azurik are already doing 18mpps and more.

Yes...I read X-Box has enough bandwidth to handle 50+ mpps in Game...and the NV2a has enough power to catch these numbers(it all depends on the effects tuned on...with 1 infinite light, 2 textures=70 Mpolys/s...then the more you add effects...the more these numbers decrease...)

Originally posted by Toxical


That is a nice number, i think DOA for the XBox looks sweet, i think the character and levels have a very realistic look to them..

I am not biased against DOA3,  I am quite excited about it.  But I certainly don\' see the characters as realistic looking.  They seem to have a less gritty feel than some other games.  More of a Psuedo anime style really.  But very nice looking.



btw... one thing that i think most people have overlooked about Xbox is the fact that it isn\'t RISC.  Isn\'t this going to to eat more bandwidth relatively speaking.

And I have a question about PS2.  Is it able to texture in Jpeg format, if not I remember someone talking about it not having to use bmp for textures.  Another bandwidth saver if so.

Just some thoughts... I really think the capabilities between the three systems will be fairly close.  At least to the end that I will greatly enjoy all of them.

Originally posted by PahnCrD


 btw... one thing that i think most people have overlooked about Xbox is the fact that it isn\'t RISC.  Isn\'t this going to to eat more bandwidth relatively speaking.
 

hmmmm, i wonder if the GPU is RISC

And 1st gen games like Azurik are already doing 18mpps and more.

Somehow I seriously doubt that. Azurik does not look like it\'s throwing around that many polygons. If it is, then the dev team is lacking.

/ dm /

It is, datamage. Take a look at the official site. I know it doesn\'t really look like it at first glance, but if you look at some of the bigger, more detailed pictures, you can see all of that geometry. Lots of work went into the monsters, and the main character.

Nu,

Well I took a gander over @ their main site, but I wasn\'t able to find a quote stating that. I believe that you saw that, I just don\'t believe it\'s true. Either there\'s some polygons hidden somewhere, or my expectations of what 18mpps should look like is off. I am taking the character models, draw distance, etc, into consideration, I just don\'t believe it. Just like I don\'t believe Jak and Dakster is pushing 12-15, or whatever the number was. I think the developers stretch the truth a bit.

-- Perhaps the engine is capable of drawing that many polygons, I just don\'t think the game is actually pushing that much. Oh well, polygons nowadays don\'t mean much anyhow.

/ dm /