PS2 Realistic racing games

Looking for realistic racing/car games preferablly off road that includes car wrecks, body damage, tire/engine wear and adverse weather conditions.
I own GT3 which is very good however I am dissapointed in some parts of the game play. Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
                                                           Bill in Hawaii

Try Paris Dakar Rally, or wait for World Rally Championship

Originally posted by wrighto001
Looking for realistic racing/car games preferablly off road that includes car wrecks, body damage, tire/engine wear and adverse weather conditions.
I own GT3 which is very good however I am dissapointed in some parts of the game play. Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
                                                           Bill in Hawaii

Yeah...I\'d echo these thoughts as say wait for WRC.

Probably best to wait for Colin McRae 3

You might be waiting awhile though

Originally posted by wrighto001
Looking for realistic racing/car games preferablly off road that includes car wrecks, body damage, tire/engine wear and adverse weather conditions.
I own GT3 which is very good however I am dissapointed in some parts of the game play. Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
                                                           Bill in Hawaii

Jarret and Labonte Stock Car Racing has all you listed (except for being off road) and a lot more. The only problem is that it\'s a PSX game, but with the texture smoothing options on it still looks great. The damage model is second to none in console racing, same for the AI and the racing model.

http://www.sports-gaming.com/racing/jarrett_labonte_stock_racing/review_psx.shtml