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Anyone here have tried connecting their PS2 to their VGA monitor?

And if u do, did u managed to get progressive scan output feature in some games like Tekken 4 and Burnout 2??

I don\'t have HDTV and so i thought I might want to try this but I\'m not really sure if the output to VGA monitor is capable of displaying progressive scan for higher resolution output.

Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2002, 12:53:48 AM »
Yes have had Tekken 4 working on one, looked great. But I had been using the Linux Kits VGA cable, which only outputs to a Sync on Green monitor. So yes it is possible but I guess few will be able to use it :eek:

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2002, 05:05:36 AM »
same here, have my PS2 running Linux over a SOG Monitor. Haven\'t tried it on any games though...

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2002, 05:44:36 AM »
I think there is only 3 ATM that\'ll work Seven. And Burnout 2 seems to have had the progressive scan taken out of it for the PAL market, and we can\'t buy SOCOM yet :mad: . So we PAL gamers only have 1 game that works :boom:

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2002, 03:51:54 AM »
Granted, it will degrade the image quality a bit.. but if you just hook it up to a TV Capture card you won\'t need to worry about buying a seperate VGA box or cables for it. Plus, if you run a program called Dscaler, it\'ll turn the feed into progressive scan for you so really ALL your games could have PS.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2002, 08:17:00 AM »
So a capture card will enable you to make all games progressive scan?:eek: :eek: :eek:

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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2002, 08:29:35 AM »
No.. the capture card will just allow you to view TV from your computer. Dscaler is just a program.

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Unlike most existing software for use with TV cards, DScaler implements sophisticated deinterlacing algorithms. Using such algorithms makes sure that each kind of video source is handled a different way. It provides the user with a level of image quality unknown to PC owners until now.

Some of the techniques are:

*video source deinterlacing
*inverse telecine detection: 2:2 (for pal movies) as well as 3:2 (for ntsc movies) pulldown
*Automatic aspect ratio control
*Judder elimination

The image quality resulting from those complex operations is high and allows some people equipped with data capable projectors to feed them with progressive scan images. - Dscaler FAQ


http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net/
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2002, 05:52:55 PM »
But what is "Data capable projector"?? Seems like a significant investment just for PS...maybe I should just wait for HDTV to come down in price..maybe by 2005 in time for PS3?? :)

Anyway, do u guys still experience shimerries with progressive scan??

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2002, 09:56:53 PM »
No Shimmeries to speak off, could see things much better (there was some writing in Tekken 4 that was hard to see on the TV because of the shimmering, but was very easy to read on the monitor). But the problem was that it seemed to make the jaggies a little more noticable because the shimmering seemed to be hiding some of it. Not much of a problem on Tekken 4 though :p

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2002, 10:04:35 PM »
Quueg: U r watching on HDTV or VGA monitor? Perhaps u should tried BurnOut 2? It looks fantastic even when running S-Video on my normal TV!

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2002, 10:15:19 PM »
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But what is "Data capable projector"?? - Paul-


Basically it\'s just saying that you need an up-to-date moniter. I\'ve been to several forums looking for answers to my ATI Video Card problems, and alot of people end up using Dscaler and raving about how great the picture quality is. It\'s not like some extra device you have to buy.. as long as your PC moniter is fairly recent you should be fine.

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Cathode Ray Tube based video projector capable of horizontal scan rates of 31,500 Hz allowing the projector to display line doubled video and computer VGA graphics (at 640 by 480 resolution). A data grade projector has a horizontal scan rate double that of a video projector, which has a rate of 15,750 Hz. Graphics grade projectors feature a horizontal scan rate of 63,000 Hz enabling them to display line-quadrupled video as well as super-VGA computer screens (1,024 by 1,280 resolution).

All three projector types are distinguished by their ability to scan a certain amount of horizontal information per second. They will all display the same quality video when fed a basic NTSC signal that is not line doubled or quadrupled. However, the projectors possess more functionality as their horizontal scan rates increase. Graphics grade and most data grade projectors are capable of displaying HDTV signals in the full HDTV resolution (with the addition of a digital television tuner that is HDTV capable).

Data grade projectors cost about 50 percent more than basic video CRT projectors, and graphics grade units cost about twice as much as basic video projectors. Data grade units offer a great degree of flexibility in video formats and quality. - Audio/Video Library


Costly? Hardly..

Data Grade PC Moniter: You in all likely hood already have one.
Dscaler Program : Free
TV Capture Card (ATI All-In-Wonder or Hauppage WinTV): 60 bucks.

Total.. around 60 bucks.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2002, 10:28:17 PM »
Is Dscaler freeware? if not how much it cost? I\'ve trying to access that link but I think there\'s some problem with it with my server.

Also, does it mean that dscaler will work with just about any tv capture card??

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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2002, 10:32:46 PM »
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Dscaler Program : Free - SonyFan


Yes, Dscaler is a freeware program.. and is opensource. It is an independant program which will run weither or not you even have a video card at all. (Jus don\'t expect much of a picture) So yeah.. doesn\'t matter what video capture card you use.. as long as you\'re getting a signal.

One thing to watch out for tho.. you\'ll need a basic model GeForce2 or greater graphics card which plugs into an AGP slot. You can probably get away with lesser.. but you NEED Video Overlay which has been built into all the newer graphics cards for some time now and it needs the high data bandwith of the AGP slot. As I said earlier, if you\'re PC is fairly recent then you should have nothing to worry about.

Also.. as I\'ve had bad experiences with ATI products, I suggest buying a Hauppage WinTV video capture card. I\'ve heard nothing but good things about them thus far. :)
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2002, 10:36:44 PM »
Great!! But does the ATI-all-in wonder accept S-Video or just composite input? I don\'t any extra cable from my PS2 right?

and which model of the ATI-All in wonder do u recommend?? I\'m currently using a nvidia GF2Ti card so I\'ve not much idea about ATI\'s card.

Thanks.

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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2002, 10:51:53 PM »
I did a little more reading and you\'d probly be better off buying the TV Wonder VE, since the All-In-Wonder is a graphics card in and of itself.. which has a chipset not easily recognised by Dscaler. The standalone TV capture cards however are based on a very common chipset, so that would be your best bet if you\'re looking into ATI products. Tho as I said before.. ATI sucks.

I\'d get this if you\'re looking for S-Video at a cheap price.

http://www.hauppauge.com/html/products.htm#pvr

It\'s the Win-TV USB. It\'s a basic model and is USB based so you don\'t have to worry about a heafty installation. Only 80 bucks too.. little over twice what the TV Wonder VE costs, but worth it as the Wonder VE has only a composite in and Coaxial. Also, all sound output is Mono unlike the Win-TV USB. :(
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