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Offline GmanJoe

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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2003, 07:26:26 AM »
Japan, at one time, was on the verge of a possible invasion of Australia.

Today, China can be a formidable opponent to the US and Australia (and its island states) COMBINED. Jeez people. Just coz they don\'t get into wars with other nations doesn\'t mean they shouldn\'t have a military. Also realise that the Abu Sayef in the southern part of the Philippines and Muslim fundamentalists in Indonesia isn\'t that far from Australia.

Racer, not all Americans are critical of your country\'s efforts. Thanks.
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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2003, 07:39:56 AM »
dont get me wrong, i appreciate oz sending troops to die for the US\'s efforts
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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2003, 07:43:17 AM »
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Next time you question a countries army please research to find out how useful they have been in the past.
 


This is why we asked the question.  Why should I have to run around the internet to justify the existence of an aussie military when we have people here who are very knowledgable can chime in.
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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2003, 07:49:33 AM »
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dont get me wrong, i appreciate oz sending troops to die for the US\'s efforts


Then you\'ve answered your first query from page 1.

And Vid, if you know full well you\'re going into a subject without the relevant info try not to have so much front and gung-ho-ness with baseless opinions.





I\'ll end with a quote from Ted Stiker,

"War is hell"
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0080339

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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2003, 07:56:17 AM »
quotes, eh?

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Don\'t be a fool and die for your country. Let the other sonofabitch die for his.

George S. Patton

i also dont see how you can say that to vid when you basically feel that japan wanted world domination, :laughing:
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« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2003, 08:07:38 AM »
Well...all this bickering will be moot when most Iraqis will just drop their weapons and surrender on the spot. Who wants to die for Saddam anyway? Remember how the regular soldiers just surrendered to the Brits when they were just practicing their war games?
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« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2003, 08:27:08 AM »
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Then you\'ve answered your first query from page 1.

And Vid, if you know full well you\'re going into a subject without the relevant info try not to have so much front and gung-ho-ness with baseless opinions.

I\'ll end with a quote from Ted Stiker,

"War is hell"
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0080339

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Relevant info?  Wht are you freaking talking about.  I told you I don\'t know any relavent info.  That is why the questions were raised.  Sure I made some jokes about the waste of 4000 men and what the heck they can do to help.  No one has said word one on what the heck Australia is doing to help in this fight.  Does anyone even know what these men are for?  I have to assume medics.
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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2003, 08:27:57 AM »
or meat shields
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« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2003, 08:33:46 AM »
SAS?
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« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2003, 08:41:59 AM »
What makes you think everyone elses soldiers are so un-trained compared to yours. Here\'s how the wars victories/losses pan out.

WW2 - Boom.

Vietnam - Loss (even with a huge budget and better technology)

Gulf 1 - Techology

Somalia 1992 - Loss (when technology was a bit tougher to get hold of and there was ground fighting it was a bloodbath)

Afghanistan - Technology

Gulf 2 - I can only imagine technology will win this war again.

Most soldiers are pretty much of a muchness, it\'s large budgets and technology that win the wars in the end, and all friendly countries will have roughly the same level of advanced weapons, any one of a number of allies could slot into this war and fight just as well as the next.

Plus a lot of US and UK troops will need a break, they\'ve been there for ages, maybe the Ozzies can relieve some of them and make it less work for all.
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« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2003, 08:50:39 AM »
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or meat shields


You are right.  I found this over at news24


"The Australian contingent includes a 150-member Special Air Service detachment expected to be committed to front-line duties ahead of invading infantry and tank battalions. An Australian squadron of 14 F/A-18 Hornet fighters is also expected to take part. "
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« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2003, 08:53:24 AM »
WW2 - Boom.

you really think the bombing of two cities in japan ended the war?

Somalia 1992 - Loss (when technology was a bit tougher to get hold of and there was ground fighting it was a bloodbath)

please dont even base what you saw in "black hawk down" as factual

Vietnam - Loss (even with a huge budget and better technology)

better technology?  yeah, those M16\'s and frag grenades the US soldiers carried were super high tech
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« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2003, 08:56:29 AM »
Compared with a Chinese made AK-47 that is badly maintained and vaguely fires in a straight line.

Add to that F4 Phantoms, cluster bombs and Napalm.

And Black Hawk Down was a good film but I\'ve read more than that.

And, do you really think anyone would want to fight someone with nukes?!
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« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2003, 09:47:40 AM »
Actually, the AK-47 was better than the M16 in vietnam for many reasons. "badly maintained"? didn\'t need it, as for the m16, they were first-gen weapons that need A LOT of maintainence to even fire without jamming. You can pour a handful of mud in an AK, leave it in a locker for a year, kcik the bolt open and it will fire. The only drawback was lack of range due to the larger calibre. They fixed that in \'74 with the AK74.
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« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2003, 10:54:20 AM »
mm: to be fair in his statement regarding somalia. I have a close friend that was in that mistake and it wasnt all that pretty from what he told me.

Chizzy: right on the head!!!
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