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Offline SwifDi
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The tide has turned in the battle for hearts and minds.
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2003, 09:54:43 PM »
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"I\'m 49, but I never lived a single day. Only now will I start living," said Yussuf Abed Kazim, a mosque preacher. A young Iraqi spat on a portrait of Saddam. Men hugged Americans in full combat gear, and women held up babies so soldiers riding on tanks could kiss them.


I must admit, initially I was kinda skeptical, but hearing this guy say this, and whats going down there... Makes you really think... Regardless if we discover chemical weapons or not, we did free these people from Hussein\'s harsh grasp. Feels good.

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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2003, 10:43:57 PM »
Hopefully we will find chemical weapons just to shut the French and Germans up along with the people who believed the war wasn\'t just. Yes there were civilian casualties and it is sad, but everyone dies someday, and in time people will forget the dead and learn to live their new hopefully prosperous free life. But like vapor said no chem. weapons we just made a whole nation rejoice in 3 weeks, I can say I\'m proud to be an American this makes up for some of the f*ck ups we\'ve done.

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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2003, 11:05:49 PM »
All in all..what does it really mean?

That any country can go invade and goto war with any other country just b/c they feel the ppl of said country should be living another way?

What if some countries decided to gang up on us and attack us b/c they feel our way of life is wrong...

wait, thats what happend on 9/11


Point blank, you just cant invade countries claiming to free ppl, even if you are doing so, just b/c their ideal doesnt meet yours.

I would go to jail in a heartbeat if I came to one of your homes and kicked the door down claiming to be freeing you just b/c our ways of life are different.
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2003, 12:51:35 AM »
There is a big difference between liking someones gov\'t or not and someone ruthlessly torchering his people.


And as far as the French go.  They have never been as worthless as they are today.  God forbid we find WMD (And I think we will) the French will become even more worthless.  

I certainly don\'t see a whole lot of people against the war spouting their mouths off today.  I\'m sure they will jump in though is everything doesn\'t go smooth as silk in the transition gov\'t phase.
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2003, 03:30:39 AM »
The French need to make themselves important again, nobody respects them anymore.
\"In the last 12 months 100,000 private sector jobs have been lost and yet you\'ve created 30,000 public sector jobs. Prime Minister, you cannot carry on forever squeezing the productive bit of the economy in order to fund an unprecidented engorgement of the unproductive bit. You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt.\" - Daniel Hannan

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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2003, 03:57:08 AM »
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I certainly don\'t see a whole lot of people against the war spouting their mouths off today.  I\'m sure they will jump in though is everything doesn\'t go smooth as silk in the transition gov\'t phase.


That\'s because you\'re not really worth talking to at the moment. The time you start posting without being constantly offensive or sarcastic to people with differing opinions is the time people will talk to you.

At the moment you seem to have a serious thing against freedom of speech.

****ing grow up and deal with it.

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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2003, 04:26:29 AM »
Not at all.  I only have problems with the freedom of speech when you put out untruths.  That\'s really it.  Like I said before, I don\'t agree with numerous people that I have not said anything sarcastic to.

The whole we are killing innocent people absolutely drives me insane.  I will be sarcastic as hell to anyone who blasts the US for killing innocent civilians.  We went to HUGE lengths to not kill civilians.  

That is virtually the only thing that I have gone off on and been sarcastic about.  And I make no apologies for that.
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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2003, 06:58:38 PM »
I see my points still stand.
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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2003, 07:04:32 PM »
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All in all..what does it really mean?

That any country can go invade and goto war with any other country just b/c they feel the ppl of said country should be living another way?

What if some countries decided to gang up on us and attack us b/c they feel our way of life is wrong...

wait, thats what happend on 9/11


Point blank, you just cant invade countries claiming to free ppl, even if you are doing so, just b/c their ideal doesnt meet yours.

I would go to jail in a heartbeat if I came to one of your homes and kicked the door down claiming to be freeing you just b/c our ways of life are different.



Did we invade Iraq because they should be living another way or because they shouldn\'t be living that way?

No one is denying the fact that the people are happy and better off now that they have the potential to be on their way to a better life.  Iraq could be a very wealthy and prosperous country.  Very bright people and a lot of resources to fund them.

Hell, even France is happy for Iraq now.
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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2003, 07:12:58 PM »
So when does this shit stop?

Not Iraq persay..but in general.

The US would certainly interveen and threaten all parties involved if this went on someone else and we weren\'t the instigators of it for once.
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