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Offline GigaShadow
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« on: April 17, 2003, 01:10:31 PM »
It is now clear the UN is a stage for personal agendas...

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Russia against lifting UN sanctions on Iraq: source
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MOSCOW (AFP) - Russia will not support a US proposal to lift UN sanctions on Iraq (news - web sites) if UN inspectors do not confirm the country has no weapons of mass destruction, a Russian foreign ministry official said.


"Regime change in Baghdad is not a condition for lifting economic sanctions on Iraq," the official told the Interfax news agency on condition of anonymity.


"There is a UN Security Council resolution for this, which clearly stipulates the disarmament of Iraq -- something international inspectors must decide," he said, adding that Russia supported the return of UN inspectors.


US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) said Wednesday he would soon propose a UN resolution ending the 12-year-old crippling economic sanctions, which put an embargo on the trade of Iraqi oil.


Russia -- a fierce opponent to the US-led war that earlier cast doubt on US accusations that Iraq possessed biological, chemical or nuclear weapons -- fears opening the floodgates of Iraqi oil could hurt its own economy, which is heavily reliant on oil exports.


It has called for the United Nations (news - web sites) to play a central role in the reconstruction of post-war Iraq, also fearing lucrative contracts could end up in the hands of the US-led coalition that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites).


Dmitry Rogozin, head of parliament\'s foreign affairs committee, said the US announcement that it favored lifting sanctions less than one week after the fall of Baghdad and Saddam\'s regime seemed "wrong" and "mercenary."


"We should determine just what the United State is after -- something seem wrong, the approach is too mercenary," he was quoted by Interfax as saying.


"Today the United Nations controls practically nothing in Iraq, so the sanctions will actually be lifted not from Russian companies -- which should be working in the region -- but from Americans, who will be given the juciest parts of the Iraqi oil industry," he said.


The United Nations imposed sweeping sanctions on Iraq after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in August 1990. They included a ban on all trade with Iraq, an embargo on its oil exports and an arms embargo.


Bush also called for an end to the UN-administered "oil-for-food" program, which since 1996 has enabled Iraq to export limited amounts of oil and use the revenues to buy basic humanitarian supplies.



Didn\'t they say 2 months ago that Iraq had no chemical or biological weapons?  To think people blame the US for destruction of the UN.

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2003, 01:47:40 PM »
The axis of weasels will never stop surprising me.

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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2003, 02:32:25 PM »
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France does not want to go to war because they know if the U.S. seizes control of the oil they can charge them higher prices. Same goes to Russia and the other countries who were anti-war.

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2003, 02:36:05 PM »
France and Russia are worried about all the Made in France and Made in Russia labels we will find when we clean up.

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2003, 05:37:35 PM »
I remember reading something a few days agao about US hinting to forgive the debt owe by Iraq to the world since they can never hope to repay them(over USD100 billion!!!). But France and German(of which Iraq owe a few billions to ), strongly protest and expect every last single cents to be paid.

Hey, isn\'t these the countries that opposed the war with feverish enthuasim and play the good cop role?? So why don\'t they continue be the good cop and give Iraq some levy now, eh??

Hypocrites.

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2003, 06:31:06 PM »
HOW ARE THEY HYPROCRITES?!

What country in their right mind will lift a debt from a country that is now being controlled by somebody they opposed in the first place??

The whole "war for oil" is starting to take place now. I was starting to believe Bush, but now it\'s pretty clear what he wants.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2003, 03:15:14 AM »
That money borrowed by Iraq ended up building palaces and boats.  Shit we\'ve given more money to countries and forgiven more loans to countries then a lot of countries are even worth.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2003, 09:48:08 AM »
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HOW ARE THEY HYPROCRITES?!

What country in their right mind will lift a debt from a country that is now being controlled by somebody they opposed in the first place??

The whole "war for oil" is starting to take place now. I was starting to believe Bush, but now it\'s pretty clear what he wants.


You never believed Bush as is evident by your posts.  This is all about immigration to you.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2003, 10:11:19 AM »
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HOW ARE THEY HYPROCRITES?!

What country in their right mind will lift a debt from a country that is now being controlled by somebody they opposed in the first place??

The whole "war for oil" is starting to take place now. I was starting to believe Bush, but now it\'s pretty clear what he wants.



uh, im done posting in here after this cuz too many views get me pissed. Anyway, if we went into iraq for the oil, we wouldve had it for a while now. So stop with the "were just doing it for oil" bs. The thing i disagree about this whole thing is that Bush in 92 shouldve dealt with Sadam then.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2003, 01:22:27 PM »
He could\'ve, but it would of went against the U.N. see about 10 years ago the U.N. meant something now after Somalia, Bosnia and the Iraq situation its just another group of guys tryin to measure their d!cks to one another.

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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2003, 03:27:42 PM »
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You mean measuring their balls against the US. Like I said before, the UN is all about trying to keep the peace. The only reason it didn\'t work, it\'s because Bush or any other nation with power didn\'t see it right that the UN didn\'t see it their way.

Giga...GTH...to you it\'s as easy as bring up shit that you don\'t even know about. I said started to believe in Bush\'s reasons for the whole war...To liberate the Iraqi people. Everything else is still lies to me. Today on the news they have again showed a different view on what the US gov. calls victory. The Arab world is putting out pictures of US soldiers relaxing in the palaces, holding a meeting in the official meeting places of the Iraqi government. Children covered in blood. To them it\'s not about freedom anymore, it\'s about the US taking over. The shit goind down with Syria isn\'t helping either.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2003, 09:34:05 PM »
The oil the U.S. is seizing in Iraq is exactly what is going to rebuild that country. Case closed.

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2003, 10:38:09 PM »
Hey, as long as gas prices go down I couldn\'t give a damn.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2003, 12:09:43 AM »
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The oil the U.S. is seizing in Iraq is exactly what is going to rebuild that country. Case closed.


SO who elses pockets are going to get fat?
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2003, 05:55:47 AM »
Wait, we use iraqi oil to rebuild the country after we caused the collapse, and thats not using it for are own gain?

We would have to pay for it with tax-payer money otherwise, but looky there! some oil!

Sounds like we are gonns save us some money with that Iraqi oil :-P
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