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Offline EThuggV3
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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2004, 07:07:57 PM »
Naw, graphics-whore words sowell anyway. And I won\'t deny it. After story, graphics are the most important thing to me.

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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2004, 03:35:40 AM »
I think games aren\'t for you then. There are these things called movies and they have much better graphics and stories than games!
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2004, 03:52:47 AM »
Someone thinks they\'re funny. :p

I get no interactivity or options with a movie though. No sense of accomplishment. And before you suggest FMV games on Sega CD or 3DO - I played most of them already. :D

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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2004, 04:06:36 AM »
jumpman has a point :eek:

Gameplay is core to what makes a game... a game

Graphics & Story are Important to the game but like so many times before we all know of games that concentrated on graphics or story to the extent that it impacted on the gameplay.




Examples of Story being more important that gameplay

Metal Gear Solid 2 & Xenosaga both of which have far to many cutsceens and story getting in the way of gameplay.
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2004, 05:18:38 AM »
I think KOTOR struck a good balance. But for the record, I\'m more interested in interactive movies (I guess thats what you guys want to call it) than a \'game\'. A game is a mindless waste of time, a thing for children. IMO. What I want is art. What I want is something that has me on the edge of my seat. Makes me feel something. Makes me think. Makes me want to get lost in the world. I had more fun simply exploring and wondering what awaited me in the story in KOTOR or Fable than I\'ve ever had with a \'gameplay first\' kind of game. The only games I play for \'gameplays sake\' are platformers and racers. Adventures, action/Adventures, RPGs (my favorite genres) I play for the story and graphics/immersion.

MGS2 and Xenosage - I wouldn\'t have a problem with all the cutscenes in them if I liked the stories or characters. The problem was, I liked neither. I generally play games (except for the two excluded genres above) with a \'I gotta get the gameplay/stat building/etc over with so I can see the rest of the story\' attitude. Combat is a chore imo, whether its MGS3 or FFX. If you took the story and good graphics out of all games, I probably wouldn\'t be playing them at all anymore.


But really, this is all beside the point. Graphics hype people up, make them say wow, convinces people there\'s a compelling need to move on from old hardware to new. Without the graphics pulling us along into each new gen, most casual gamers would never see much reason to upgrade. And Nintendo has expertly hyped the DS\'s features so far, despite my opinions of said features. But, and I\'m sure you don\'t agree, I don\'t think they can keep beating the \'were innovative\' drums and get people to march in stride with them. Eventually people are going to shrug and say \'enough of these gimmicky so-called innovations\'. Especially if Sony and MS are putting more distance powerwise between them and Nintendo with each new console.

Leave the innovation to the peripheral guys and the programmers - Nintendo as a console maker should be focused on bringing the most powerful console they can to stay competitive. There\'s a reason comments like Iwata\'s worry me. There\'s a reason a lot of analysts and game media people mention Xbox 2 vs PS3 and barely make a footnote of Revolution. I don\'t think everything going wrong in Nintendo land is their fault, but they aren\'t making me confident, or helping themselves with comments like that (and numerous others they\'ve made).


This is pretty off topic, no? I wanna play the puppy game. Wooo DS! :D

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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2004, 08:31:36 AM »
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DS DS LOL...

Sorry I have been spending to much time on the penny arcade forums.

anyhoo i will be importing one after Xmas as me old cash funds will be looking be tter after the festive season.


Then Buy a UK version on for the Wife.... then its 2 player Animal Crossing for the both of us :D.

oh and i could alsways frag her on Metroid prime hunters & send her cartoon wangs via Pictochat :D.


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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2004, 09:52:24 AM »
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jumpman has a point :eek:

Gameplay is core to what makes a game... a game

Graphics & Story are Important to the game but like so many times before we all know of games that concentrated on graphics or story to the extent that it impacted on the gameplay.




Examples of Story being more important that gameplay

Metal Gear Solid 2 & Xenosaga both of which have far to many cutsceens and story getting in the way of gameplay.


I thank God MGS2 is that way

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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2004, 10:54:59 PM »
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Examples of Story being more important that gameplay

Metal Gear Solid 2 & Xenosaga both of which have far to many cutsceens and story getting in the way of gameplay.


True.......very true.  Thats one of the things I hated about MGS2, besides the fact that it took hours to beat.

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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2004, 11:04:20 PM »
Wow...hours? That should be a standard in games now, shouldn\'t it? *goes to play Mike Tyson\'s Punch Out, beats the game in 15 minutes*

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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2004, 02:55:42 AM »
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*goes to play Mike Tyson\'s Punch Out, beats the game in 15 minutes*


at least, punch out you probably spent months to master to get to Tyson.

it was chalenging. you had to stay focus and learn and execute most paterns almost flawlessy. When you beat a new character, you had a feeling of accomplishment.

MSG2 and others today\'s game are just, easy trials and errors.
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« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2004, 09:57:36 AM »
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at least, punch out you probably spent months to master to get to Tyson.

it was chalenging. you had to stay focus and learn and execute most paterns almost flawlessy. When you beat a new character, you had a feeling of accomplishment.

MSG2 and others today\'s game are just, easy trials and errors.

Too true. Mario 1 is still hard. And dont even get me started on games like Kid Chameleon where there were like 188 levels and no saves.

About MGS2 though - i enjoyed the cutscenes and the length. Wasnt the best game in the world but the story was good enough for me.
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« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2004, 04:19:22 PM »
I had that game for a week when I was like...4 years old and I beat it. It wasn\'t that hard, IMO. Still a fantastic game, though.

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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2004, 02:57:30 AM »
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