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Philadelphia was 12th in the NFL in passing defense.  The best secondary in the NFL?  Don\'t make me laugh.  They ranked third in their division.  They were also 15th in the NFL in interceptions.   19th in the NFL in completion percentage allowed.  In fact, you allowed the 6th most completions of any NFL team.  Pro Bowl selections mean nothing, your secondary is overrated.  

You want the best secondary in the NFL, in my opinion?  Buffalo.  The NFL\'s most underrated D was 3rd in passing defense, 2nd in interceptions, and 1st in passer rating against, holding opposing QB\'s to a rating of 65.  Now that\'s good.  What, besides pro bowl selections, can you say to support your claim that the Eagles are the best secondary in the NFL?  The stats CERTAINLY don\'t support it.  

Who\'s wrong now?

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Originally posted by The Hurricane
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How so? The eagles secondary was great throughout the season. Ranked 3rd in fewest points allowed. And they didn\'t give up big plays. I think the last two weeks they have proven thus far they are the best secondary in the league.

What happen to buffalo\'s defense in pittsburg????????

Originally posted by QuDDus
How so? The eagles secondary was great throughout the season. Ranked 3rd in fewest points allowed. And they didn\'t give up big plays. I think the last two weeks they have proven thus far they are the best secondary in the league.

What happen to buffalo\'s defense in pittsburg????????

Same thing that happened to Pittsburgh\'s defense in Pittsburgh.

Originally posted by QuDDus
How so? The eagles secondary was great throughout the season. Ranked 3rd in fewest points allowed. And they didn\'t give up big plays. I think the last two weeks they have proven thus far they are the best secondary in the league.

What happen to buffalo\'s defense in pittsburg????????

What happened to the Eagles defense against Pittsburgh?  Don\'t make arguements that I can make right back at you.

Oh, and in that Buffalo game, they held the passing game to 12/25 for 120 yards, 1 TD, and 2 INT\'s.  That\'s a pretty bad passing game.  Also take into account that the Steelers scored one defensive TD, which you can\'t put on the defense at all.

By comparison, the Steelers put up 183 passing yards on 11/18 passing with 2 TD\'s and an INT.  Your secondary gave up 2 TD\'s.  The total D gave up 3.  The Steelers gave up 1.


As for the 3rd fewest points allowed, that is not a measure of their secondary, it\'s a measure of their total defense.  The backs are only 1/3 of that.  Plus, take into account that the offense and special teams can give away points too.

The rankings that have to do with passing have the Eagles out of the top 10 in virtually every category.

And this when you take into account that the Eagles have one of the best pass rushes in the NFL (2nd in sacks).  That takes a lot of pressure off the secondary.  If the pass rush wasn\'t there, or if it was even average, them how low would those rankings be?

And how does your post season play show that you\'re the best?  You gave up 316 yards to the Vikings, and 136 to the Falcolns.  Since when is an average of over 220 yards per game reason to be best in the NFL, especially when one of those games was against a team that is known to not like to air it out?

Do you really wanna argue that the eagles don\'t have good corners?? I mean pro bowl selections do mean something. It\'s based on individual performance.

And what defense is going to the superbowl?

You said the best.  They aren\'t.  I say they\'re not the best, not even great, but average.  So yes, I will argue that they are average and not great.  The numbers ALL back it up.

And once again, there is more to a defense than the secondary, and there is more to a team than just the defense.  You can\'t put the entire super bowl trip on the secondary.

Originally posted by shockwaves
You said the best.  They aren\'t.  I say they\'re not the best, not even great, but average.  So yes, I will argue that they are average and not great.  The numbers ALL back it up.

Maybe you just don\'t like the eagles. I mean you gotta give their secondary credit were credit is due. Their starting corners and safties are all pro bowlers and you say that accounts for nothing?

And once again, there is more to a defense than the secondary, and there is more to a team than just the defense.  You can\'t put the entire super bowl trip on the secondary. [/B]

Thanks but I already know what a team and a defense is. Again thanks anyway.  Second I wasn\'t trying to put the entire superbowl trip on the secondary. I just got little ahead of myself because the eagles have a great secondary. And everyone said their secondary would suffer because they lost their two starting corners. Now too see what they accomplished and how lito and brown stepped up their game this season was great.

...that post made as little to no sense as possible. I\'ll let him clean up most of that muck, but I would like to point out that he\'s been rooting for the Eagles for the entire playoffs, he just doesn\'t have his head so far up his ass to realize that the Eagles aren\'t the defensive secondary juggernaut that you\'re saying they are.

Oh, and the Pro Bowl doesn\'t exactly mean that much -- Ahman Green made the Pro Bowl this year for christs sake, and he probably wasn\'t even in the Top 6 as far as NFC backs go this year.

See Yuz.

Originally posted by ROL Jamas
...that post made as little to no sense as possible. I\'ll let him clean up most of that muck, but I would like to point out that he\'s been rooting for the Eagles for the entire playoffs, he just doesn\'t have his head so far up his ass to realize that the Eagles aren\'t the defensive secondary juggernaut that you\'re saying they are.

Oh, and the Pro Bowl doesn\'t exactly mean that much -- Ahman Green made the Pro Bowl this year for christs sake, and he probably wasn\'t even in the Top 6 as far as NFC backs go this year.

See Yuz.

You know what you and shocky are right. I mean the eagles suck their secondary is shitty. I mean I have no idea why I even like the team. Just like everyone said before the season started. The eagles secondary would suck and they were right.

You and shocky were right just like your always right. I\'ll just shove my opinion right back up my ass.


See Yuz

*yawn* I love self pity as much as the next guy, but that was just sad. Not once did I claim that their secondary was "shit", or that you had no reason to like them. Hell, I even mentioned in the post that even though your disdain for Shocky is evident, he\'s been rooting for your team ever since they made the playoffs, if not earlier.

And yes, we\'re always right when we\'re arguing against you...it\'s just so easy

See Yuz.

Yeah, Quddus, you write as if I have something against the Eagles, but I have rooted for them in every single playoff game they\'ve had, and will be rooting for them big time in the Super Bowl.  And I didn\'t say their secondary sucks, cause that is far from the case.  However, I also think that they aren\'t the best either.  They\'re average, but the pass rush makes them look good.  Simple as that.

Originally posted by shockwaves
Yeah, Quddus, you write as if I have something against the Eagles, but I have rooted for them in every single playoff game they\'ve had, and will be rooting for them big time in the Super Bowl.  And I didn\'t say their secondary sucks, cause that is far from the case.  However, I also think that they aren\'t the best either.  They\'re average, but the pass rush makes them look good.  Simple as that.

ok then thats cool I jumped the gun a little. James kinda got under my skin with his post.

 awesome.  Go Eagles

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