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How has Tom Delay not been castrated yet?
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2005, 07:47:22 AM »
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I was liberal and then I grew up.  


Don\'t you mean "grew apathetic?":rolleyes:
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2005, 03:54:14 PM »
Honestly Giga, you are like the most steryotypical Republican EVER. It would be so easy to match all of the steryotypes.

Let\'s begin with a few:

1.) Blind hatred toward anybody opposing a Republican.  

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2.) Being knowingly ignorant.

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3.) Name calling

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4.) Will bite anything that comes near their money

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5.) Willing to be castrated in the name of all that is holy(Bush)

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6.) Non-Republican= USA hater, Terrorist, Anti-America, French

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And the list goes on!

Congratulations, all you need now is to drive some Ford Mustang with a US flag somewhere stuck on it.


DeLay is the walking and talking form of the hypocritical party that has been the Republicans. Before they were alright, not so conservative, but now it\'s sickening. "Morals morals morals" they pushed on us. Well, once their big guy in the HOR decided not to keep himself in check, it\'s suddenly alright for a man to cheat, be bribed and give up some things for his own personal pleasure instead of worrying about THE PEOPLE HE REPRESENTS.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/17/delay/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Top Democrats assailed House Majority Leader Tom DeLay on Sunday over ethical questions that have put him at the center of a political firestorm, while Republicans came to his defense.

In appearances on political TV talk shows, congressional Democrats accused DeLay and fellow Republicans of an "abuse of power" in handling questions over DeLay\'s fund raising and overseas trips.

But Republicans struck back, accusing Democrats of political opportunism.

"Tom DeLay will stay as leader," Rep. Roy Blunt, the third-ranking Republican in the House, said on NBC\'s "Meet the Press."

Democratic leaders took aim at changes made to the House Ethics Committee, saying the revisions were aimed at preventing an investigation from determining whether DeLay has violated House rules.

House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer said Republican leaders "neutered" the committee.

After the 10-member committee admonished DeLay three times in 2004 and talk of a possible probe by the committee grew, Republican leadership in the House changed a central rule. The committee can now launch an investigation only if a majority of members support the idea.

Given that the panel is evenly divided between the parties, that would require at least one Republican member agreeing to investigate DeLay.

In response to the changes, Democratic members have refused to let the committee meet.

"I think the single thing that\'s gotten people most upset about Tom DeLay is not the back and forth on the ethical issues -- we do see that in Washington all the time -- but when he asks that the Ethics Committee be totally declawed, that it would have no power," Sen. Chuck Schumer said on ABC\'s "This Week."

"When Tom DeLay didn\'t like their findings, he basically got his majority in the House to undo it," the New York Democrat said. "That\'s an abuse of power. That\'s overreaching."

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, told CNN: "What bothers me is the Republicans, when things aren\'t going their way, tend to try to change the rules."

And Hoyer said on "Fox News Sunday" that Democrats would not "meet with an Ethics Committee that is neutered by the Republican leadership."

"The issue here is the abuse of power. And it\'s not just Tom DeLay," the Maryland Democrat said. "It\'s a Republican abuse of power."

Lott: \'Manufactured controversy\'
Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, a Mississippi Republican, told ABC the DeLay debate "is a manufactured controversy."

"It\'s a continuation of the politics of personal destruction we\'ve seen in Washington for years," he said. "This is because Tom DeLay is an aggressive, strong leader who has done a fantastic job in the House of Representatives for 10 years."

Changes made to the ethics committee were "not abuse of power," he added. The new rule just says "that to go forward with an investigation, you need at least one member of the other party. If you have all of one [party], you need one of the other to make it truly bipartisan," he said.

And Blunt said, "It\'s no more difficult to file an ethics charge than it ever was."

But Rep. Barney Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, pointed out it was Republicans who established the previous rule allowing members of one party to order a probe. The rule was implemented in 1997, two years after Republicans gained control of the House.

"The Republican Revolution came in [and] changed the rules so that one party couldn\'t block an investigation of its own member," Frank told NBC. "And when that began to bite, they\'ve changed them back again. That\'s the pattern, by the way, that the Republicans have engaged in on a whole lot of things."

Frank said he and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich were reprimanded by the committee.

"The difference between us and Mr. DeLay is, I think, we changed our behavior," he said. "Mr. DeLay changed the Ethics Committee."

Blunt countered that DeLay "wants the Ethics Committee to reorganize, so he can go to the committee" and lay out the facts.

"Tom DeLay wants to lay out that case. I think our friends on the other side know the only effective way he can do that is if the Ethics Committee does its work," Blunt said on "Meet the Press." "And they\'re using what I think is a totally spurious, trumped-up reason to say that the Ethics Committee can\'t do its work."

DeLay has called himself the victim of "just another seedy attempt by the liberal media to embarrass me" and has lashed out at Democrats for a "strategy of personal destruction." (Full story)

Although most Republicans have stood by him, some have expressed serious concerns. Connecticut Rep. Chris Shays said last week that he thinks DeLay should step down.

"It\'s been harmful to the Congress," he said. "I think it\'s been harmful to the Republican conference, a conference that ran on the highest ethical standard. I also think it\'s harmful to Republicans up for re-election."

Gingrich and Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania called on DeLay to step forward and lay out all the facts.

Ten Republican former members of Congress wrote a letter to the House leadership this past week opposing the changes made to the ethics committee, calling them "obvious action to protect Majority Leader Tom DeLay."

DeLay, speaking to the National Rifle Association convention Saturday in Houston, Texas, did not directly address the ethics allegations. (Full story)

But in an apparent reference at one point, he used a line he attributed to gun-control advocate Sarah Brady, the wife of Jim Brady, a former spokesman for President Reagan who was shot in an assassination attempt on Reagan in 1981.

"Sarah Brady said that when a man\'s in trouble or in a good fight, you want all your friends around them, preferably armed," he said. "So I feel really good."

Much of his trouble stems from his relationship with lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who is known as "Casino Jack" for making a fortune from the gambling operations of Indian tribes. (Full story)

News reports said Abramoff and other lobbyists paid for two of DeLay\'s overseas trips, which is prohibited by House rules.



Honestly, they CHANGED a rule in order to hide the damn rat. How freaking illegal is that? Giga, you belong with that group most definately.


DeLay is the HOW leader of the PARTY THAT SUPPOSEDLY BASED THEIR ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON MORALS, ETHICS AND VALUES!

That is why he is being targeted. And if people like you don\'t like taht then you shouldn\'t have supported the damn party that wore a halo and wings and pretended to be angels through out the entire election.

Holy crap some people in the world are willing to have their balls cut off in order to protect those that wouldn\'t give a shit about them.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2005, 04:31:15 AM »
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Honestly Giga, you are like the most steryotypical Republican EVER. It would be so easy to match all of the steryotypes.

Let\'s begin with a few:

1.) Blind hatred toward anybody opposing a Republican.  

Check


Hypocrite - your blind hatred toward Bush has made a lot of conservatives hate people like you.

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2.) Being knowingly ignorant.

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No I am a realist - it is people like you and Core who live in fantasy land.  

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3.) Name calling

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Hypocrite - "stupid white rich people" :rolleyes:

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4.) Will bite anything that comes near their money

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That is right I earned and I am not sharing with you or any other welfare case.  We live in a capitalist society for the 100th time - this is not a socialist country.  If you want that move to Sweden.

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5.) Willing to be castrated in the name of all that is holy(Bush)

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What?  I can\'t even decipher this.  Here you go again with your theocracy rant about Bush... see your first point about blind hatred.

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6.) Non-Republican= USA hater, Terrorist, Anti-America, French

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Well for the most part that is correct - You are a liberal and by your posts I have come to learn - You do hate this country, you support breaking its laws by aiding illegal aliens - which could be a form of Economic Terrorism, you hate this country\'s economic structure because it doesn\'t give you things for free and your defense of the indefensible French...

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And the list goes on!


I could make a list Mystiq - I don\'t think you would want me to do that would you?

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Congratulations, all you need now is to drive some Ford Mustang with a US flag somewhere stuck on it.


Well that would be better than some POS Camero or Hoopty Blazer.  When it comes to taste - you have none.

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Originally posted by SirMystiq

DeLay is the walking and talking form of the hypocritical party that has been the Republicans. Before they were alright, not so conservative, but now it\'s sickening. "Morals morals morals" they pushed on us. Well, once their big guy in the HOR decided not to keep himself in check, it\'s suddenly alright for a man to cheat, be bribed and give up some things for his own personal pleasure instead of worrying about THE PEOPLE HE REPRESENTS.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/17/delay/index.html



Learn how to snip an article.

Lastly don\'t slide ethics in between morals and values as being a campaign issue for the last election.  All of a sudden it was one according to you because now it is convenient.  Don\'t act as if Republicans are the only ones doing this - just as many Democrats do it as well.

Corporations run this country and really I couldn\'t care less - we are a capitalist society and are prosperous because of it.  So prosperous in fact that people are dying to get in - legally or otherwise.
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2005, 12:09:38 PM »
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So it isn\'t true because of the author?  You liberals amaze me.  The NYT is nothing more than a mouthpiece for radical liberals.  Try denying that DeLay is being individually targeted by the liberal press for something everyone in Congress does...

I find it  hilarious when Republicans complain about the New York Times and other mainstream newspapers as if they were somehow beyond the pale.  This is the same New York Times that made the whole invasion of Iraq possible with it\'s front page publicity for Bush\'s prowar agenda, deceiving their readers throughout the period leading up the great fiasco.  Where does Judith Miller stand in your insightful analysis of the NYT as "nothing more than a mouthpiece for radical liberals?"

The mainstream newspapers are on your side, man!  They are the voice of corporate america, which is obviously the same voice that emanates from the GOP.  ALL the major newspapers fell over themselves to praise Colin Powell\'s address to the UN, despite it\'s evidentiary shortcomings.  They called it "a massive array of evidence," "a sober factual case," "an accumulation of painstakingly gathered evidence," "an ironclad case... incontrovertible evidence..."  The only problem was that it turned out to be bullshit, as we learned later.  What more do you want, Giga?  They\'re doing the best they can to help you lunkheads!  :laughing:

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Wow a comic to back up your points... how enlightening. :rolleyes:
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Since you don\'t pay attention to what I write, I thought some funny pictures might grab your attention.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2005, 07:43:24 PM »
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Hypocrite - your blind hatred toward Bush has made a lot of conservatives hate people like you.



No I am a realist - it is people like you and Core who live in fantasy land.  



Nope. How was I being a hypocrite...My "hate" for Bush isn\'t blind by the way. Too much spending, the war is a disaster and now China wants to rock and roll over some tiny island that the US backs up. The economy is shitting, just two days ago NYSE had the worst day in a long time and today it didn\'t get any better. The debt is growing and our military is being stretched like a rubber band.

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Hypocrite - "stupid white rich people" :rolleyes:



That is right I earned and I am not sharing with you or any other welfare case.  We live in a capitalist society for the 100th time - this is not a socialist country.  If you want that move to Sweden.



What?  I can\'t even decipher this.  Here you go again with your theocracy rant about Bush... see your first point about blind hatred.



Hmm...that isn\'t name calling Senor "moonbat"

See, name calling would be like calling you a "dipshit" or a "crackhead" and maybe even "pseudointellectual" But I do recall saying "stupid rich white people"

First off, yes they are stupid. They are also white. And! They are people. So therefore it\'s not name calling. Who was I referring too? Bush, Cheney and 99.9 % of Congress.

Am I wrong?

I could care less about you sharing your filthy money. I was referring to anything that involves using tax money to educate poor children, enhance rundown neighborhoods etc...Last time I checked, that is that this country is all about! Helping each other to get somewhere and live the American dream. Not slapping the hand that might very well be your own someday.




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Well for the most part that is correct - You are a liberal and by your posts I have come to learn - You do hate this country, you support breaking its laws by aiding illegal aliens - which could be a form of Economic Terrorism, you hate this country\'s economic structure because it doesn\'t give you things for free and your defense of the indefensible French...



I could make a list Mystiq - I don\'t think you would want me to do that would you?



You are a seriously retarded man. I don\'t know how old you are but something most have happened to you when you were a kid.

"Economic Terrorism"!!


LOL

Illegal Immigrant: "Hey, I know Jose, let\'s go to the USA and work our asses off for some corporation(The ones you don\'t have a problem controlling our government Giga) for a cheap amount of money"

Illegal Immigrant 2: "I don\'t know Juan, it\'s pretty dangerous"

Illegal Immigrant: "C\'mon Jose, let\'s go overthere and tear down their economy...kinda of like "economic terrorism"

Illegal Immigrant 2: "OK!!"

That has got the be the stupidiest connection ever.

Support for people that I have personally experienced their need = Hatred toward this country.

Only in your screwed mind Giga. If anything, I know exactly what this country has to offer. I know exactly just how much you have to go through to earn every damn penny you fool. So don\'t EVER make some random accusation making loose connection that only you psychos understand.

Make a list. My "on" button isn\'t planted on my forehead. So, It won\'t bother me.

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Well that would be better than some POS Camero or Hoopty Blazer.  When it comes to taste - you have none.

 

Learn how to snip an article.

Lastly don\'t slide ethics in between morals and values as being a campaign issue for the last election.  All of a sudden it was one according to you because now it is convenient.  Don\'t act as if Republicans are the only ones doing this - just as many Democrats do it as well.

Corporations run this country and really I couldn\'t care less - we are a capitalist society and are prosperous because of it.  So prosperous in fact that people are dying to get in - legally or otherwise.


A ford?? (Found On Road Dead) Better than a Chevrolet?

Please, I\'ll rather drive a dump truck than a Mustang. Except the Cobra and the Saleen. Sexy beasts.

My CAMARO(not camero) isn\'t a POS...Weirdo.

I bet you do drive a mustang with flag on it! HAHAHAHA

I\'m not acting like anything. DELAY IS THE TOP GUY IN OFFICE AND REPRESENTS THE PARTY THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE PEOPLE NOT LOBBYIST.

Morals=Ethics in anybody\'s book.

Except yours.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

 

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