81 points

jordan > kobe > lebron


sure Kobe isn\'t a role model or team player like Lebron or Jordan, but not even Jordan scored 81.

I agree with Cored. Sure he won the game, but it wont happen consistently. And scoring 81 points doesn\'t make him one of the greats either. All the greats make everyone else around them better. Magic, Bird, Jordan, Abdul-Jabar, Duncan, Stockton etc.

Several things.

First of all, in response to Cored, the difference between the Lakers of the 80\'s and the Lakers of today is that Magic had Kareem to pass to.  Every game this season in which a player other than Kobe led the team in scoring, they\'ve lost.  Kobe is shooting at a 45% clip, much higher than the league average, and the average of the rest of his teammates.  He\'s also 2nd on the team and 35th in the league in assists, putting him above most of the league\'s non PG\'s.  

I\'m not trying to argue that Kobe is a good guy or a team player, but I think that his current team doesn\'t have the talent to be a great team.  They need one more solid player.  Who would you rather see taking a shot as a Lakers fan, Kobe or Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm, etc.?  Sure, it\'s his fault the team has no other top flight talent, he chased Shaq out of town, but you can\'t fault his performance last night.

And Square, it\'s unfair to say Kobe is better than LeBron.  At LeBron\'s age, Kobe was just getting off the Laker\'s bench.  It was his first year even starting.  LeBron is years ahead of Kobe in terms of development at this point in their careers, and if the list is going to include people who are no longer playing, that\'s the way you have to look at it.  I\'d take LeBron\'s 31 ppg, 7 rpg, and 6 apg at a 49% FG % over Kobe\'s 19.9 ppg, 5 rpg, 4 apg, at 46% FG % for sure.  Hell, I might take LeBron over Kobe now, despite Kobe having 7 more years of experience.  It\'s at least close.

Originally posted by Coredweller
No, I don\'t watch a Laker game unless I have to.  BTW, do you think any of the noname players on that team are going to say a word against Kobe, even if they hate his ass?  LOL!  It\'s funny how you try to convince me to ignore the Lakers\' other games this season simply because they won this particular game.

I agree the win is all that matters.  Good for them that they won a game.  Unfortunately their record is 22-19, which puts them in 7th place in the West.  A team that has one selfish superstar backed up by a cast scrubs is not a formula for consistent success in the NBA.  This game could have easily ended with Kobe scoring a high number of points, and the Lakers losing, as has happened many times in the past.  Of course they\'re going to win occasionally.  The goal is to win consistently.

To increase his team\'s success, Bryant should distribute the ball and get several players hot, not constantly try to carry every game on his back.

Ok, I agree Kobe is a prick but you were talking about that one single performance making you want to vomit.  He got 55 of those points in the second half when his team was down big.  18 of the pts in the game coming off of foul shots.  Him shooting that much and doing that well in a game is amazing.  Now arguing if he would have shot close to that many if he was playing bad for the day and taking a lose is something completely different.  We\'re on two different pages here.

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Originally posted by square_marker
jordan > kobe > lebron


sure Kobe isn\'t a role model or team player like Lebron or Jordan, but not even Jordan scored 81.

jordan didnt score 81 points because he made pippen, kerr, and kukoch (sp?) good around him. As great as kobe is, i wouldnt want him as the lone star..if they pick up someone else that can play or make other people around him good then his value would skyrocket in my book.

But i stopped paying attention to basketball so all i can say is...damn.

Originally posted by shockwaves
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And Square, it\'s unfair to say Kobe is better than LeBron.  At LeBron\'s age, Kobe was just getting off the Laker\'s bench.  It was his first year even starting.  LeBron is years ahead of Kobe in terms of development at this point in their careers, and if the list is going to include people who are no longer playing, that\'s the way you have to look at it.  I\'d take LeBron\'s 31 ppg, 7 rpg, and 6 apg at a 49% FG % over Kobe\'s 19.9 ppg, 5 rpg, 4 apg, at 46% FG % for sure.  Hell, I might take LeBron over Kobe now, despite Kobe having 7 more years of experience.  It\'s at least close.

In the long run I think LeBron will be better than Jordan was, but currently I don\'t think anyone is as good as Kobe in the league.  Give LeBron another year and he will surpass Kobe.  Kobe won\'t become a legend unless he can find a way to become a team player and make those around him better.  He scored 81, very very impressive, but the Lakers only won by like 10 or so.  Either Kobe is bringing that team down, or Kobe\'s teammates are a joke that could be beaten by North Dakota State.

ahhh american footy i had no clue what ya was all talkin about then lol

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Originally posted by tigertunes
ahhh american footy i had no clue what ya was all talkin about then lol

basketball actually,lol. 81 points in american football would be nuts.

Curious.

Has anyone else in NBA history topped Kobes 81 points?

Wilt Chamberlain scored 100pts, then Kobe\'s 81 is 2nd.

Originally posted by shockwaves
I agree with Bozco.  I think Kobe is a selfish player, but if he shoots 60%, including 7-13 from 3, there\'s no way you can fault him for taking enough shots to score 81.  It\'d be different if he were shooting 40% or something, but at 60%, that\'s just a flat out amazing game.

Even if you are so biased in sport that you don\'t like kobe. Everyone had to admit it like every other sports authority. The man did something awesome.

Originally posted by QuDDus
This is the reason I stayed out of this thread because I new people like you were going to hate.

The guy goes out there and does something awesome like this and you people find something wrong with it.

Even if you are so biased in sport that you don\'t like kobe. Admit it like everyother sports authority. The man did something awesome.

You are a complete fucking idiot. He was saying it was an amazing performance even if he doesn\'t normally like kobe or how he plays.

Don\'t even bother explaining it to him boz, not even worth the effort.

Originally posted by Phil
Don\'t even bother explaining it to him boz, not even worth the effort.

I guess I kind of got a little over my head.  I just get all fired up at times when people talk about kobe. Yeah I didn\'t mean to fire off at shocky like that. I take back what I said.

Did I miss something?