California - Ban On Smoking In Public Places...

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I was just poking fun at you.

I understand the whole "keeping an open mind" perspective, but when it comes down to effecting other people\'s health, I really no see no grey area in this. Smoking is bad, no one can argue this. Second hand smoke does exist. No one can argue this. No grey area. Ban smoking in everyplace but the private home.

I guess your theory does fit the conservative psychosis that taxes are the root of all evil.
 
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As opposed to a liberal\'s view that taxes can fix everything?

Like I said, I\'m really allergic to cig smoke and it makes me want to die when I\'m around that crap. I was just trying to keep an open perspective, but then came to the conclusion that smokers can eat sh^t and die...no offense to any smokers out there.

 
Actually...
 
People aren\'t allergic to cigarette smoke, it\'s not an allergen. It\'s an irritant, though, and can definitely bother you.
 
The more you know...
 
Also, if we ban smoking to only in a person\'s home because of how it affects others - what if I\'m a nonsmoker who lives in the same house as a smoker? Maybe we ban smoking for people with children? What about in their cars? What about we just leave them alone, if you don\'t like someone smoking outside near you, move.
 
-Dan

why do people whine about cigg smoke, yet drive cars that put far worse chemicals and other pollutants in the air

hell, the most anti-smoking person i know smokes pot like there\'s no tomorrow.
i make fun of her everytime we go out for the mass quantities of chemicals she ingests at dinner
vegans = lame

i would say i\'m a non smoker, but i will have one occasionally at the bar.

banning smoking in restaurants is fine.
inside public buildings?  also fine.
but outside in the open air?
it\'s free fucking will, don\'t like it, move to a desert island where noone will bother you.

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What are you talking about?

Smoking is still banned in all indoor public places...

two things....
1. i could\'ve swore after bloomburg banned smoking in indoor area\'s that he reversed it shortly after, upon complaints from certain factions losing business...*i\'ve seen this on all of the local news stations*.

2. shortly before i moved to georgia,...me and the wifey went to this nightclub in n.y. called temple...and there were a couple of people smokin\' by the bar.. i didn\'t give it much thought as i don\'t care either way, but what i saw on the local news, combined with what i saw at the nightclub, lead me to believe bloomburg reversed his stance on it...

It was a statewide thing in New York, unless NYC has a different set of rules (which is possible).

[Evi]

People aren\'t allergic to cigarette smoke, it\'s not an allergen. It\'s an irritant, though, and can definitely bother you.

I\'m allergic to all smoke. That includes sitting around a camp fire. Though I tough it out since camp fires are just so damn cool. And with cig smoke, my eyes turn red, my lungs get stuffed up, and I get breathe. Seems like allergies to me (since that\'s the same crap that happens with other things I\'m allergic to). Meh.

two things....
1. i could\'ve swore after bloomburg banned smoking in indoor area\'s that he reversed it shortly after, upon complaints from certain factions losing business...*i\'ve seen this on all of the local news stations*.

2. shortly before i moved to georgia,...me and the wifey went to this nightclub in n.y. called temple...and there were a couple of people smokin\' by the bar.. i didn\'t give it much thought as i don\'t care either way, but what i saw on the local news, combined with what i saw at the nightclub, lead me to believe bloomburg reversed his stance on it...

Nope, pretty sure smoking is still banned in NYC...

As for seeing smoking indoors, lots of clubs/bars allow it, but illegally...

Especially Asian clubs/bars...

They\'ll hang a sign in the open area saying No Smoking but in a private room, they\'ll provide ash trays...

[Titan]

Eh, yeah, definitely don\'t know what I was thinking with that.  We had a ban that made it illegal to smoke within 15 feet of the building.  Its not even late out, I don\'t know whats wrong with me.

Really. My campus is 50 feet unless tehre is a designated smoking area (which there is only one next to my dorm that I know of). Its not really enforced and people smoke right in front of buildings but there are signs all over about it.

I think it\'s a good idea. Smoking can cause many respiratory problems and cancer, even if it is only second hand smoke. Its not fair if I\'m walking down a street and I have to breathe in dangerous smoke from someone\'s cigarrette. It\'s even worse in Europe though because a lot of people smoke there, especially in the pubs.