So now that Saddam has been hanged...

Yeah but instead of focusing on the real issues now, people keep bringing up WMDs and stuff like that. Instead of focusing on the past, why don\'t we focus about fixing/finishing what we started. We can\'t change the fact about being there but we can focus on what needs to be done and leave the past alone. I understand why we are there. That is irrelevant to what is going on right now except to how we got there.

Thats exactly why people bring up the past. Knowing that the "office" that started the war by selling lies to satisfy its interests is the one we are relying on to bring balance on the situation as well, people cant help but see no solution. And these people rule America. Ofcourse it will annoy and it will continue to annoy knowing that the country is being ruled by a slef serving administration. Especially when the possible coseqeuences were known for decades.

Unfortunately for those who understand this, there are the those who still support them, want others to blindfold their eyes, forgive the blamers, and continue giving the props to those criminals that handle the situation and their lies.

[Titan]

Thats exactly why people bring up the past. Knowing that the "office" that started the war by selling lies to satisfy its interests is the one we are relying on to bring balance on the situation as well, people cant help but see no solution. And these people rule America. Ofcourse it will annoy and it will continue to annoy knowing that the country is being ruled by a slef serving administration. Especially when the possible coseqeuences were known for decades.

Unfortunately for those who understand this, there are the those who still support them, want others to blindfold their eyes, forgive the blamers, and continue giving the props to those criminals that handle the situation and their lies.

First off, there weren\'t lies. In case you have been following anything since the start, Bush and everyone in the administration admitted they were wrong in going in and that they got faulty intelligence. There were numerous things released here in the US to show that the CIA messed up. You get such small tidbits of information on your little island and what you read from nutjob bloggers online that you really have no idea what is really going on, especially in the United States. I\'m tired of this "they lied to us" bullshit. There was faulty intelligence and Bush corrected this by revamping the CIA and they are running better than ever (one of the few good things he did do).

Titan..seriously..the american public was lied to on numerous occasions when it came to this whole Iraq thing.. dont kid yourself. Unicrons post may have been a little out there..but still...lol

First off, there weren\'t lies. In case you have been following anything since the start, Bush and everyone in the administration admitted they were wrong in going in and that they got faulty intelligence. There were numerous things released here in the US to show that the CIA messed up. You get such small tidbits of information on your little island and what you read from nutjob bloggers online that you really have no idea what is really going on, especially in the United States. I\'m tired of this "they lied to us" bullshit. There was faulty intelligence and Bush corrected this by revamping the CIA and they are running better than ever (one of the few good things he did do).

You thing they admitted that they are wrong because they only recently understood they were? They admited recently they were wrong because they realised they cant get away with it.

 Also admitting they are wrong have nothing to do with them saying lies in the past and ignoring the true motives. This is the result of consuequences when you lie. You try to present yourself as making a mistake to run away with it.

 Also keep the ironies about my little island away. I get information from foreign news. You also underestimate me so much because I am in an island its pathetic. Our news dont differ from international news. I even got information that some would never want them to be revealed in the US in public.

 You seem to forgot the disputes between intelligences and the administration, with the administration trying to persuade for a war on vague and non-concrete facts.

 Does this ring a bell? This is just an example
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/08/AR2006090800777.html
 
 If you think that the Republican party didnt want the convenience of false information to be spread to increase their publicity as well as opening paths for future investments then you should go for a reality check. Also you are fooled if you think the Bush Administration didnt know that many of the claims used to excuse the war were falso from the beginning

 Its also amazing that people throughout the world, that werent in any kind of intelligence predicted the consequences, spotted which of the claims were BS before the war even started, and now they are proven right.

[Titan]

Also keep the ironies about my little island away. I get information from foreign news. You also underestimate me so much because I am in an island its pathetic. Our news dont differ from international news. I even got information that some would never want them to be revealed in the US in public.

Relax dude. I\'m just joking around with you when I mention your country.

[clips]

i was just reading some info regarding iran and various comments made by the iranian prez and some in his circle, i\'m goingto copy and paste each one and await some comments,



-He spoke with confidence over Iran\'s ability to withstand a strike. "The United States is unable to inflict serious damage on Iran," the president said. He also noted, "They (U.S.) are not really in a position to carry out this action (of attacking Iran). I believe there are many wise people in the United States who would not let it happen."

-The U.S. intends to cause insecurity and dispute and weaken independent governments in the region to continue with its dominance over the Middle East and achieve its arrogant goals," Ahmadinejad said, according to the state-run Islamic Republic News Agency, or IRNA


This next comment was made by a person by the name of Mohammed al-Naqbi who heads the gulf negotiations center talking to an american secrtary of political affairs, Nicholas Burns


-"What we are not interested in is another war in the region," Mohammed al-Naqbi, who heads the Gulf Negotiations Center, told Burns. "Iraq is your problem, not the problem of the Arabs. You destroyed a country that had institutions. You handed that country to Iran. Now you are crying to Europe and the Arabs to help you out of this mess


thoughts?...