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« Reply #360 on: November 10, 2008, 10:26:24 AM »
The word executive sounds impressive, so the Republicans latched onto it. But, it refers to the branch of government, the executive branch. The other two are the legislative and judicial branches, least that\'s how I remember it from an old social studies class.

Governors and presidents and vice presidents are all in the executive branch. The idea was that this is important when compared to the experience other candidates gain while serving for the legislative branch of the Senate.
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« Reply #361 on: November 10, 2008, 02:16:17 PM »
I think its important, but not the end-all be-all of qualifications.

Executive experience is the best experience to prepare you for the Presidency, because it entails governing cities/states and dealing with legislation, whereas the legislative branch tends to stay within themselves and not really govern.  Not saying its a bad thing, but just my opinion.

Whether or not she\'s more qualified that Obama is a moot point, Obama is the President-Elect, and Palin is back to Alaska governor.
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« Reply #362 on: November 10, 2008, 05:27:31 PM »
is that even an arguement? that palin could be more qualified than obama?

mccain vs obama is an arguement..palin vs mccain/obama/almost all of the candidates is not
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« Reply #363 on: November 11, 2008, 05:52:30 AM »
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is that even an arguement? that palin could be more qualified than obama?

mccain vs obama is an arguement..palin vs mccain/obama/almost all of the candidates is not


Why do you say that?  She\'s been in politics since the 90\'s.
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« Reply #364 on: November 13, 2008, 05:24:06 AM »
Hmmm....will she be the leader for the GOP in 2012?...*prays that she is*...:D

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« Reply #365 on: November 13, 2008, 06:01:09 AM »
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Hmmm....will she be the leader for the GOP in 2012?...*prays that she is*...:D

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/13/bash.palin.star.cnn?iref=videosearch

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« Reply #366 on: November 13, 2008, 07:59:30 AM »
If Obama\'s first term is a bust it will be Palin stepping into the White House in 2012.

Remember, it took Jimmy Carter to get us Ronald Reagan, I\'m praying the same happens in 2012.

Just because you don\'t like her doesn\'t mean the conservative base doesn\'t like her.  The conservatives loved her more than McCain.
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« Reply #367 on: November 13, 2008, 08:34:05 AM »
The conservative base gave us Iraq and the current state of affairs.

FUCK THE CONSERVATIVE BASE YOU FUCKING EVIL DEMONS
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« Reply #368 on: November 13, 2008, 09:56:15 AM »
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If Obama\'s first term is a bust it will be Palin stepping into the White House in 2012.

Remember, it took Jimmy Carter to get us Ronald Reagan, I\'m praying the same happens in 2012.

Just because you don\'t like her doesn\'t mean the conservative base doesn\'t like her.  The conservatives loved her more than McCain.


Last i checked you need more than the conservative base to get you elected. She\'s been all over the news lately and i\'ve seen her stump at that govenors meeting in florida...she\'s still annoying as ever and she has a loong way to go before the country even thinks she\'s respectable vp candidate, let alone a presidential candidate....I only see Romney at this point as being one of the major players in 2012.
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« Reply #369 on: November 13, 2008, 10:41:58 AM »
Reason Number 1: Too Many Better Candidates

The dust hasn’t even settled from the 2008 contest, and Republicans are already salivating over who the next GOP presidential nominee will be. To be sure, Palin’s name is among those that are being floated as possible candidates, along with former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, former Speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich, Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, and South Dakota Senator John Thune.  But does it really stand out?

Experience-wise, every single one of those candidates puts Palin to shame. Additionally, each of those candidate brings far more expertise to the table than Palin. And maybe that will change over the next four years. But in the meantime, Romney is seen by many as an expert on economic issues by virtue of his successful construction (and later resuscitation) of Bain Capital, and given current economic concerns, that could be a big arrow in his quiver. Newt Gingrich and Tim Pawlenty are probably the truest conservatives of the bunch, and in fact would probably be more solidly aligned with the conservative base than any GOP candidate since George H.W. Bush was the nominee as the incumbent president back in 1992. Candidates like Jindal and Thune are largely considered by many to be the future of the Republican Party. Palin would have a difficult time distinguishing herself from the breadth of possibility in that field.

Reason Number 2: The Primary Process Has A Heavy Debate Emphasis

The 2008 presidential election season was unprecedented in the visibility of candidates. En route to the nomination, John McCain participated in 17 debates in the primary race alone. Few will argue with the assertion that Sarah Palin is at her worst in (a) debates, and (b) one-on-one interviews. It was a constant worry of the McCain campaign, and a primary reason behind the fact that Palin only debated Democratic vice-presidential nominee (and now Vice President-elect) Joe Biden one time. On that occasion, expectations going into the forum were lowered to a point that essentially credited Palin with an incredible performance as long as she managed to avoid a catastrophic failure.

She wouldn’t have that benefit if she were on the stage with Romney (a prolific debater), Gingrich, Jindal, Thune, or Pawlenty, to say nothing of any other GOP candidates who might jump in the race.

Reason Number 3: The GOP Favors Candidates Who’ve Sought the Presidency Before

With the exception of George W. Bush, Republicans tend to favor candidates who’ve sought the nomination before. John McCain (’08), Bob Dole (‘96), George H.W. Bush (‘92, ‘88), Ronald Reagan (‘80, ‘84), Richard Nixon (‘72, ‘68), Barry Goldwater (‘64)- all of them sought the GOP nomination at least one time before eventually winning it (Gerald Ford is absent from the list, because he was the incumbent president and nominee in ‘76 without ever actually having been elected president in the first place). That kind of news bodes well for a candidate like Mitt Romney, who made a substantial impact in 2008, but fell short.

Reason Number 4: Barack Obama Already Defeated Sarah Palin

Palin participated in a Republican ticket that got handed its worst electoral beating since 1964. On the safe assumption that Barack Obama would seek a second term in 2012 2008, she’d be facing the same guy who demolished her ticket the first time around.

Moreover, Obama didn’t just beat McCain-Palin in swing states.  He didn’t even just beat them in states that are only moderately Republican. He beat them in GOP strongholds like North Carolina and Virginia. Palin was brought in as McCain’s running mate not only to make an offensive run at women, but also to shore up conservative and rural support. She couldn’t do it. It’s hard to see how she’d have any better luck on her own four years from now.

Reason Number 5: Palin Has Enough Baggage

Between Troopergate, her use of campaign funds for a pricey shopping spree, her former membership in an Alaskan separatist group, and her history of handing out high-paying government patronage jobs to her girlfriends from high school and college, Palin had a lot weighing her down in the 2008 race before her qualifications were even addressed. Romney’s biggest problem was that he began as a much more liberal politician than he is now. But that pales in comparison to Palin’s ethically questionable behavior. Gingrich had an extramarital affair, but he admitted that years ago, so it’s not really a newsworthy issue anymore. And Jindal, Pawlenty, and Thune are clean…for now anyway. Palin will have a tough time getting voters to look past her problems, particularly when there are other more qualified candidates to choose from who don’t have that kind of baggage.

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It’s not to say that Sarah Palin will never have a shot at the White House.  In fact, if she were to run for reelection as Governor of Alaska in 2010, and Alaska’s Senate seat in 2014 (whether it’s Ted Stevens or Mark Begich or someone else in that seat), she might have a decent shot by 2016.  But 2012 is a lost cause.  And if Democrats know what’s good for them, they’ll hope Palin pulls the trigger on her own presidential bid sooner rather than later.

http://www.therealright.com/blog/content/id_37924/title_5-Reasons-Sarah-Palin-Would-Lose-a-2012-Presidential-Bid/
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« Reply #370 on: November 13, 2008, 10:42:16 AM »
Mr. Kennedy, you are living in FantasyLand(tm) if you think Sarah Palin will ever become President of the United States except by accident.  Her one opportunity for an accidental succession is gone.  
 
I also don\'t understand why you claim to support her.  I thought you were smarter than that.
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