I killded Osama Bin Laden.

[GmanJoe]

With my pals Sam Fisher and Solid Snake, we infiltrated the mansion in Pakistan. From the 4th story window, I rappelled down to the 3rd floor and put a bullet through Osama\'s skull as I dropped into an escape truck.

Solid Snake took the body while Sam Fisher laid out some cover fire.

Then we drank some Dos Equis with this rather interesting man on a yacht as we sailed away into the Indian Ocean.

[Viper_Fujax]

im a bit of a pessimist thinking this will just aggitate the bees and there will be/is another osama. I mean...granted i was a freshmen in high school, but I didnt know who osama and al qaeda were before 9/11. Who knows if theres someone else we dont know about. Can already picture news readings being \'we were so focused on osama we forgot about so-an-soma.

But in terms of retribution:

[clips]

I can see sales of Socom Navy Seals going up by 30%.......and this has just about solidified Call of Duty 20!!........This is a very big blow to these idiotic terrorist a$$holes. Yeah you might have some that are a bit agitated by this, but so what...they were talking about jihad before 9/11, after 9/11 and so on.

Who gives a s**t if they are pissed off that this guy is pushin\' up daisies? If anything it\'s going to make them pause before they try another crazy stunt the size of 9/11 again. Ha and i wonder what those a$$holes like trump and other folks from the republican party (that were sooo obsessed with Obama\'s birth certificate) are sayin\' now that Obama has killed the no 1 wanted terrorist in tha world.....probably trying to hide under a rock.

But i\'m sure some will say that it all started with bush and his administration and give no credit at all to the guy with no experience...*waits and whistles*

[Titan]

I was half drunk when I saw the news report. Afterwards, I celebrated to the point of drunkeness. Kept yelling USA! then started to sing the Team America song

[GmanJoe]

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But i\'m sure some will say that it all started with bush and his administration and give no credit at all to the guy with no experience...*waits and whistles*

Right. So you\'re saying W. Bush did not even  TRY to have him hunted down AT ALL. Pure none sense, clips. Thought you were above this.

Just so you know, doesn\'t matter who the president is at the moment, it was the work of intelligence and military that got him. Credit goes to the men in uniform, not Black Bush in the suit and tie.

[clips]

All i\'m saying is that it started with Bush\'s administration and ended in Obama\'s....i actually give both administrations credit, because it doesn\'t matter who the president would\'ve been at the time, anybody would\'ve gave the order to ice Bin Laden....my thing is that some aren\'t even giving Obama any credit at all....folks at fox are still praising Bush and are giving "0" credit to Obama at all.

When this first happened Obama called Bush directly and gave him the great news...they might not have agreed on Iraq, but this was something that i believe both of them was in agreement on and it was a good look for him to reach out to the former prez....and with that said...

[videoholic]

Um, no offense, but the policies that Obama ran on (Closing of gitmo and interrogation techniques) are exactly what led to the courier.


I have to agree that I am extremely surprised and extremely happy that they went into this compound with men rather than throwing a missile at it.  Very ballsy move by the president.  So glad it went our way and we didn\'t have men stuck in the compound or god forbid the wrong man.

[GmanJoe]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden_hunt_for_bin_laden

Phone call by Kuwaiti courier led to bin Laden

WASHINGTON – When one of Osama bin Laden\'s most trusted aides picked up the phone last year, he unknowingly led U.S. pursuers to the doorstep of his boss, the world\'s most wanted terrorist.

That monitored phone call, recounted Monday by a U.S. official, ended a years-long search for bin Laden\'s personal courier, the key break in a worldwide manhunt. The courier, in turn, led U.S. intelligence to a walled compound in northeast Pakistan, where a team of Navy SEALs shot bin Laden to death.

[Related: Timeline: Key dates in the hunt for bin Laden]

The violent final minutes were the culmination of years of intelligence work. Inside the CIA team hunting bin Laden, it always was clear that bin Laden\'s vulnerability was his couriers. He was too smart to let al-Qaida foot soldiers, or even his senior commanders, know his hideout. But if he wanted to get his messages out, somebody had to carry them, someone bin Laden trusted with his life.

Shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, detainees in the CIA\'s secret prison network told interrogators about an important courier with the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti who was close to bin Laden. After the CIA captured al-Qaida\'s No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he confirmed knowing al-Kuwaiti but denied he had anything to do with al-Qaida.

Then in 2004, top al-Qaida operative Hassan Ghul was captured in Iraq. Ghul told the CIA that al-Kuwaiti was a courier, someone crucial to the terrorist organization. In particular, Ghul said, the courier was close to Faraj al-Libi, who replaced Mohammed as al-Qaida\'s operational commander. It was a key break in the hunt for in bin Laden\'s personal courier.

"Hassan Ghul was the linchpin," a U.S. official said.

Finally, in May 2005, al-Libi was captured. Under CIA interrogation, al-Libi admitted that when he was promoted to succeed Mohammed, he received the word through a courier. But he made up a name for the courier and denied knowing al-Kuwaiti, a denial that was so adamant and unbelievable that the CIA took it as confirmation that he and Mohammed were protecting the courier. It only reinforced the idea that al-Kuwaiti was very important to al-Qaida.

If they could find the man known as al-Kuwaiti, they\'d find bin Laden.

The revelation that intelligence gleaned from the CIA\'s so-called black sites helped kill bin Laden was seen as vindication for many intelligence officials who have been repeatedly investigated and criticized for their involvement in a program that involved the harshest interrogation methods in U.S. history.

[Related: Major attacks by al-Qaida]

"We got beat up for it, but those efforts led to this great day," said Marty Martin, a retired CIA officer who for years led the hunt for bin Laden.

Mohammed did not discuss al-Kuwaiti while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He acknowledged knowing him many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic.

It took years of work before the CIA identified the courier\'s real name: Sheikh Abu Ahmed, a Pakistani man born in Kuwait. When they did identify him, he was nowhere to be found. The CIA\'s sources didn\'t know where he was hiding. Bin Laden was famously insistent that no phones or computers be used near him, so the eavesdroppers at the National Security Agency kept coming up cold.

Ahmed was identified by detainees as a mid-level operative who helped al-Qaida members and their families find safe havens. But his whereabouts were such a mystery to U.S. intelligence that, according to Guantanamo Bay documents, one detainee said Ahmed was wounded while fleeing U.S. forces during the invasion of Afghanistan and later died in the arms of the detainee.

But in the middle of last year, Ahmed had a telephone conversation with someone being monitored by U.S. intelligence, according to an American official, who like others interviewed for this story spoke only on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive operation. Ahmed was located somewhere away from bin Laden\'s hideout when he had the discussion, but it was enough to help intelligence officials locate and watch Ahmed.

In August 2010, Ahmed unknowingly led authorities to a compound in the northeast Pakistani town of Abbottabad, where al-Libi had once lived. The walls surrounding the property were as high as 18 feet and topped with barbed wire. Intelligence officials had known about the house for years, but they always suspected that bin Laden would be surrounded by heavily armed security guards. Nobody patrolled the compound in Abbottabad.

In fact, nobody came or went. And no telephone or Internet lines ran from the compound. The CIA soon believed that bin Laden was hiding in plain sight, in a hideout especially built to go unnoticed. But since bin Laden never traveled and nobody could get onto the compound without passing through two security gates, there was no way to be sure.

Despite that uncertainty, intelligence officials realized this could represent the best chance ever to get to bin Laden. They decided not to share the information with anyone, including staunch counterterrorism allies such as Britain, Canada and Australia.

By mid-February, the officials were convinced a "high-value target" was hiding in the compound. President Barack Obama wanted to take action.

"They were confident and their confidence was growing: \'This is different. This intelligence case is different. What we see in this compound is different than anything we\'ve ever seen before,\'" John Brennan, the president\'s top counterterrorism adviser, said Monday. "I was confident that we had the basis to take action."

Options were limited. The compound was in a residential neighborhood in a sovereign country. If Obama ordered an airstrike and bin Laden was not in the compound, it would be a huge diplomatic problem. Even if Obama was right, obliterating the compound might make it nearly impossible to confirm bin Laden\'s death.

Said Brennan, "The president had to evaluate the strength of that information, and then made what I believe was one of the most gutsiest calls of any president in recent memory."

Brennan told CNN Tuesday that "there was no single piece of information that was an \'ah-hah\' moment." He said officials took "bits and pieces" of intelligence gathered and analyzed over a long period of time to nail down the leads they needed.

Obama tapped two dozen members of the Navy\'s elite SEAL Team Six to carry out a raid with surgical accuracy.

Before dawn Monday morning, a pair of helicopters left Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan. The choppers entered Pakistani airspace using sophisticated technology intended to evade that country\'s radar systems, a U.S. official said.

Officially, it was a kill-or-capture mission, since the U.S. doesn\'t kill unarmed people trying to surrender. But it was clear from the beginning that whoever was behind those walls had no intention of surrendering, two U.S. officials said.

The helicopters lowered into the compound, dropping the SEALs behind the walls. No shots were fired, but shortly after the team hit the ground, one of the helicopters came crashing down and rolled onto its side for reasons the government has yet to explain. None of the SEALs was injured, however, and the mission continued uninterrupted.

With the CIA and White House monitoring the situation in real time — presumably by live satellite feed or video carried by the SEALs — the team stormed the compound.

Thanks to sophisticated satellite monitoring, U.S. forces knew they\'d likely find bin Laden\'s family on the second and third floors of one of the buildings on the property, officials said. The SEALs secured the rest of the property first, then proceeded to the room where bin Laden was hiding. A firefight ensued, Brennan said.

Ahmed and his brother were killed, officials said. Then, the SEALs killed bin Laden with a bullet just above his left eye, blowing off part his skull, another official said. Using the call sign for his visual identification, one of the soldiers communicated that "Geronimo" had been killed in action, according to a U.S. official.

Bin Laden\'s body was immediately identifiable, but the U.S. also conducted DNA testing that identified him with near 100 percent certainty, senior administration officials said. Photo analysis by the CIA, confirmation on site by a woman believed to be bin Laden\'s wife, who was wounded, and matching physical features such as bin Laden\'s height all helped confirm the identification. At the White House, there was no doubt.

"I think the accomplishment that very brave personnel from the United States government were able to realize yesterday is a defining moment in the war against al-Qaida, the war on terrorism, by decapitating the head of the snake known as al-Qaida," Brennan said.

U.S. forces searched the compound and flew away with documents, hard drives and DVDs that could provide valuable intelligence about al-Qaida, a U.S. official said. The entire operation took about 40 minutes, officials said.

Bin Laden\'s body was flown to the USS Carl Vinson in the North Arabian sea, a senior defense official said. There, aboard a U.S. warship, officials conducted a traditional Islamic burial ritual. Bin Laden\'s body was washed and placed in a white sheet. He was placed in a weighted bag that, after religious remarks by a military officer, was slipped into the sea about 2 a.m. EDT Monday.

Said the president, "I think we can all agree this is a good day for America."

___

Associated Press writers Kimberly Dozier, Eileen Sullivan and Ben Feller in Washington and Kathy Gannon in Islamabad, Pakistan, contributed to this report.

Got to thank the echelon then?

[Titan]

my thing is that some aren\'t even giving Obama any credit at all....folks at fox are still praising Bush and are giving "0" credit to Obama at all.

And your surprised about Fox news doing that?

[videoholic]

Actually I watch fox news all the time and that is complete bullshit that they haven\'t given Obama credit.  I agree a lot of their people are skewed, but they have all given him praise for having the balls to tell men to go in there rather than launching a missile at him.

[clips]

Actually I watch fox news all the time and that is complete bullshit that they haven\'t given Obama credit.  I agree a lot of their people are skewed, but they have all given him praise for having the balls to tell men to go in there rather than launching a missile at him.

There were a couple of folks on there giving all of the credit to bush....i\'m surprised you haven\'t seen that.....when this happened as i mentioned above, Obama reached out and gave the Bush the great news....after that he even tried to invite him to come with him to ground zero for some ceremony.

Prior to this, i even seen some clowns on fox try to say that the recent Birth certificate that he released was photoshopped...that network is a joke....yeah and i get that MSNBC is it\'s direct opposite, but that is why i prefer CNN...(they\'re pretty much balanced)...every time i watch fox news i just cringe at the stuff that comes out of those anchors mouths sometimes...it\'s pathetic...

[videoholic]

CNN is balanced?  lol  

All news is ridiculous.  You just have to watch it with a brain.  Some of the stuff they say is laughable, but if you weed through the bullshit you get correct info.

The only thing I\'ve seen any network say in regards to bush is that it was his interrogation policies that led to this information.  Which is absolutely true.  Obama ran on stopping the practice of intense interrogation and even came out on his first day and set to close gitmo.  The dude had no fucking clue.  And people like you voted for the guy.

Thank God he didn\'t get his way.

[clips]

CNN is balanced?  lol  

All news is ridiculous.  You just have to watch it with a brain.  Some of the stuff they say is laughable, but if you weed through the bullshit you get correct info.

The only thing I\'ve seen any network say in regards to bush is that it was his interrogation policies that led to this information.  Which is absolutely true.  Obama ran on stopping the practice of intense interrogation and even came out on his first day and set to close gitmo.  The dude had no fucking clue.  And people like you voted for the guy.

Thank God he didn\'t get his way.

Yup,...and i\'d vote for him again...i don\'t agree with all of his policies like the one\'s you mentioned above... i too think we should do whatever it takes to get info, but then the u.s. shouldn\'t say s**t to the enemy like.."if the enemy has our soldier they better treat him with utmost respect"....yeah and i get that those folks in gitmo have a bed and a place to eat, but they are still being tortured/waterboarded...etc...etc...my thing is the u.s. shouldn\'t contradict itself when it states we don\'t stand for something and then we turn around and do it anyway...if we torture folks, we should go ahead and own it and stop telling other folks what they can and cannot do...

Ultimately at the end of the day people care about jobs and the economy and people could give a s**t about whether Bin-Laden was caught or not and the economy fell apart under bush\'s watch (the economy was growing to a critical boiling point that went unnoticed all of those years under Bush\'s watch up until 08 when everything crashed)....this is a big win for america no doubt, but very small in the grand scheme of things...there\'s another Bin-laden just waiting to strike overseas and in sleeper cells in america itself....killing Bin-Laden doesn\'t mean the end of the terrorists.....Obama will get a slight boost from this tho...:fro:


They were trying to prevent Bin-Laden from looking like a Matyr(spel)...the story changed from him having a gun to him not having a gun.... but this guy made the u.s. spend billions of dollars and ten years looking for him....in reality he may have died, but he may have gotten the last laugh after all...

[GmanJoe]

You realize that Obama is basically continuing the W. Bush policies, right? Even his economic (not just military) policies. That\'s why I call him Black Bush, no affiliation to your naughty bit.

Economy was going to shit regardless of who was president in 2000-2008. Mainly due to the tech industry collapse right after Clinton left the office. Then there\'s jobs leaving the US for China due to China\'s super cheap labor.