A message to deaf ears.....

[clips]

I don\'t see Obama pushing wars on other countries that had nothing to do with 911, as a matter of fact he\'s completely the opposite of Bush in that regard....he\'s actually been drawing down the troops in both Iraq and Afghanastan. It\'s been almost ten years and if those folks can\'t get their act together after ten years f**k \'em.

I don\'t agree with everything he\'s done tho...like i don\'t like how he\'s forcing everybody to get health ins, but i guess if you must have car ins, it only makes sense for you to take care of your health...i just feel folks should have the option to choose if they want it or not.

I understand the logic tho....since there are generally more healthy people than there are sick, generally the more healthy folks would foot the bill for the folks that are sick, not to mention that those sick folks are also contributing to their health plan. Over time it\'s assumed that costs will come down since everybody is on it, but only time will tell.

And Obama didn\'t run up the deficit like Bush did....sure you can blame him for the stimulus package, but he had to do that..if not alot of major banks with big mortgages tied to them would\'ve brought down the entire U.S. economy...not to mention he also saved a couple of U.S. car manfactures in Detroit that were hanging in the brink...so he also saved thousands of jobs there.

[Jumpman]

I\'d vote Obama over super scum like Ginrich, Romney, or Sanatorum any day of the week. None of those dudes are different in any way, their just mouthpieces for big business and republican agendas.

Stick with the devil you know imo.

[GmanJoe]

I don\'t see Obama pushing wars on other countries that had nothing to do with 911, as a matter of fact he\'s completely the opposite of Bush in that regard....he\'s actually been drawing down the troops in both Iraq and Afghanastan. It\'s been almost ten years and if those folks can\'t get their act together after ten years f**k \'em.

I don\'t agree with everything he\'s done tho...like i don\'t like how he\'s forcing everybody to get health ins, but i guess if you must have car ins, it only makes sense for you to take care of your health...i just feel folks should have the option to choose if they want it or not.

I understand the logic tho....since there are generally more healthy people than there are sick, generally the more healthy folks would foot the bill for the folks that are sick, not to mention that those sick folks are also contributing to their health plan. Over time it\'s assumed that costs will come down since everybody is on it, but only time will tell.

And Obama didn\'t run up the deficit like Bush did....sure you can blame him for the stimulus package, but he had to do that..if not alot of major banks with big mortgages tied to them would\'ve brought down the entire U.S. economy...not to mention he also saved a couple of U.S. car manfactures in Detroit that were hanging in the brink...so he also saved thousands of jobs there.

clippa please. He attacked Libya, without the consent of the Congress.

He\'s still continuing a lot of the W Bush policies he said he would kill, especially the Patriot Act. I guess once he realized how important it was as President, W Bush wasn\'t the evil man he thought he was.

[Jumpman]

I think who the President is is largely irrelevant at this point.

Dude just runs the country.

The policies and shit are run by people making serious bank.

[clips]

clippa please. He attacked Libya, without the consent of the Congress.

He\'s still continuing a lot of the W Bush policies he said he would kill, especially the Patriot Act. I guess once he realized how important it was as President, W Bush wasn\'t the evil man he thought he was.

His strategy on Libya worked tho...He initially led the program then handed it off to the french and the U.N. It was basically a win, win scenario...alot of folks from the other side were saying that Libya was going to be a disaster when it was anything but that.

Kadaghfy(spel) got iced and we didn\'t receive a ten-year program like iraq and afghanastan. Funny how nobody is giving him credit for that. As far as the patriot act goes? I was never bothered by it,...wanna tap my phone and listen to my conversation?..go ahead...

We all knew that they were really listening to folks of middle-eastern descent to see if they were talking of plans of terrorism, but they have to play it like they\'re listening to everybody. Not saying that they\'re not listening to everybody else, but i\'m sure as wrong as it kinda is, the focus was on them.

Lastly i agree with jumpy..whoever is prez just manages the country, the folks with the big currency are the guys that actually run the country...

[GmanJoe]

So he is basically a black Bush. And you used to dog Bush....but not Obama?

The deficit by Obama makes Bush look frugal.

[Titan]

clippa please. He attacked Libya, without the consent of the Congress.

He\'s still continuing a lot of the W Bush policies he said he would kill, especially the Patriot Act. I guess once he realized how important it was as President, W Bush wasn\'t the evil man he thought he was.

You don\'t need congress\'s consent in order to use military force on another country if you aren\'t declaring war. We weren\'t in a war with Libya. Most of our resources were using CIA agents and special operatives on the ground to help train libyan rebels in warfare and tactics and a few cruise missiles. Its nothing new and we\'ve been doing it for years, like Afghanistan in the first round. France had more of a presence in military intervention than the US did. In that I thought Obama was smart. Can\'t be fighting two wars and have boots on the ground in a third one. Though if we did, we definitely would have toppled Ghadafi way sooner

And Obama more or less inherited the deficit that Bush handed him. When you fight two wars and with the economy in shit because of a lot of Bush\'s policies, the deficit just keeps growing, even years later. It isn\'t like Obama could squash that over night.

The deficit by Obama makes Bush look frugal.

I don\'t understand conservatives voters making a stink about the deficit.  Republican presidents ALWAYS ran up the deficit at every opportunity... with tax cuts for the wealthy, corporate welfare, invading other countries and buying every weapon system in sight.  Conservative voters never gave a shit about the deficit, and never held republican politicians accountable for it.

Then in 2008, with the economy plunging into an abyss, a democratic president pulls back on the stick by putting money into system, and suddenly conservatives are worried about the deficit.  It\'s all bullshit.  This outrage over the deficit is just an excuse to justify cutting programs that benefit the poor and middle class.  Republican politicians represent corporations and the rich, and they don\'t give a crap about you and me.  That\'s the reality.

[GmanJoe]

Liberal Occupiers are all hating on this bail out spending too. It\'s not just politicians hating on Obama\'s spending, it\'s libs and servs. Heck...let\'s not forget that the Dems were all aghast when Bush tried to bail out the failing corporations. And what happened to Obama\'s promise to get rid of Guantanamo? Guess what? He realized Bush was right! He needs Guantanamo too!

I\'ve smelled the stink of occupiers in LA and WashDC. When the hell are they going to leave? Are you an occupier, Cored?

You may be surprised to learn that I don\'t agree with all of the positions espoused by the occupiers.  I do agree with maybe 80% of what they were arguing.

Why bring this up now?  That effort washed out when the police cracked down in New York and LA.  Old news.

It\'s funny that I hated on BillyGunn/cant remember his name for being a Ron Paul fan but I am 100% behind Paul\'s ideas now.

sweet, Jumpman said something nice about me for the first time in 12 years

[CHIZZY]

a lot of you weren\'t 18 when the chicks board came about....

and black people still don\'t know how to use sidewalks. What\'s Ron Paul\'s plan for that?