To all the Red Faction nitpickers out there:

i dont mind the slowdown at all, and im sure when they release it the slwodown will be gone, or really minimized, i read in a updated review at IGN that voition sent them a full copy of the game, and it ran at a locked down 30 fps, i know IGN doesn\'t lie about ish like that, the only reason everyone says its to slow is because of thier expectaions are 2 high, i know im gonna probably get flamed for saying htat cause the PS2 can run the game at 60 fps, thats no excuse, but look at summoner it had way more slowdown, glitches up the yahoo, and everyon still enjoyed it, ddaryl you even beat the game

so why are you so demented on the speed having to be 60 fps people? 30 fps is good enough for me, and i just reserved the game yesterday, so im all set to go, the persona t software etc. said is was coming out May 22 or 24 or somethig, is htis true ??? i always though it was coming out the 7 of may or less.

I have to agree. I totaly hate slowdown but if the game is \'locked\' at a certain framerate this feels a lot better.

Just take a look at the back catalouge of PSOne games and there are loads that ran at a constant framerate...
Gran Turismo is a good example of this.. Could you imagine going around a corner at 60FPS just to turn onto
the back straight and the whole thing dips to about 25 FPS.... Yes, it would look like crap but with the game
locked at about 27 FPS it was excelent as you got used
to the framerate after a couple of races.

Originally posted by Jumpman

Oh yeah, slow-down doesn\'t mean a thing. Goldeneye has horrible slow-down but it still took the gaming industry by storm, got perfect reviews from everyone, and went on to sell over 7 million copies. As long as the game is good then anything else doesn\'t matter. If Red Faction has great gameplay then it will be a great game regardless of it\'s graphical capabilities.

That\'s so true me and my friends were playing Goldeneye with Rockets and the game slowed to a crawl and we still couldn\'t put it down.  Slowdown can be tolerated if the game play is there.

My opinion...

Well I agree STROKE that I would sooner have the graphics turned down slightly than to have slowdown.

I also agree that having games locked at a FPS is fine. Slowdown and slow games are a different thing. I don\'t mind games running at 30 fps. I do mind games literally getting slower in front of you when the action becomes more rapid.

Some games may be playable with the slowdown, I for one though can\'t see past it but thats me, I don\'t see why us gamers have to "try" and like a game. A game should just be enjoyed, we shouldn\'t need to try and enjoy a game and attempt to see past slowdown if truthly it gets on our nerves.

I understand that people will disagree and feel games can be enjoyed and that they don\'t need to see past slowdown if it exists, but I for one hate it.

Remember it IS a DEMO Disc after all and it is not the final product, i mean just look at the improvements between the GT3 demo and final game (just ask The Bouncer ow good the final game is )

Last night I took all my sticky bombs or whatever they are called and dug a huge tunnel

I didn\'t discover anything but it was cool

After I got done  with the Turret I used my remaining bullets and blasted as much of a hole in one section of wall I could. Then I use all my sticky bombs and furthered the hole.

When I was done I had a 50 foot tunnel

It was kinda cool just to do this

in reply to going down the elevator shaft, all you have to do I play the game on easy (so you get more mines) and thrown one at an angle on the wall, blow it up, jump into the hole you just made, and keep throwing them down.......I havent tried this, I just thought of it, tell me if it works.

Originally posted by Claypool 2001
in reply to going down the elevator shaft, all you have to do I play the game on easy (so you get more mines) and thrown one at an angle on the wall, blow it up, jump into the hole you just made, and keep throwing them down.......I havent tried this, I just thought of it, tell me if it works.

thats an awesome idea, im trying that soon

Originally posted by Bozco


thats an awesome idea, im trying that soon

i think you cant blow up the walls int he elevator shaft, i tried blowing up the other side of the wall to see if somethign wqas there, and al it does is stain the wall, but im not all that sure, try it

That sounds almost too cool to be true, ddaryl - if I were you, I would be jumping out of excitement

I don\'t care if the framerate is \'only\' 30fps, as eyes will get used to it, and if it doesn\'t dip from there, it\'s ok.

I\'m far more interested in testing the game out, and have some FUN, like you...

I was able to dig a hole with mines down the side, and it leaves you with a big enough crack to jump down the rest of the shaft but you still die i was so pissed