100 titles planned for Gamecube??

Originally posted by hyper

1. Mini-DVD\'s will cost less than an average DVD. Liscensing fees will only cost pennies this time around.

Actually . Standard DVD\'s are made by many and the prices on  them are competitive. Nintendo\'s Mini DVD\'s are proritized and have to be bought from Nintendo. More than likely these special Mini DVD\'s will cost a little more then the Standards

As for liscensing fees. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT only pennies. Money needs to be made Nintendo is no different from the rest here.  GC games will probably sell $5 to $10 more then XBOX and PS2 games IMO.

2. Nintendo\'s utilizing some of the cheapest materials out there for the GC hardware (the copper made
"Flipper," for one), while also excluding features that  made/will make the other consoles expensive (DVD, CD player, etc.).

Yes, but adding the capabilities to use the PS2 as a DVD player costs a few bucks at the most, and is probably so minute it it isn\'t worth mentioning at all.  Same with the CD player, the capabilities are already on the machine adding the necessary drivers really isn\'t that much at all

Gamecube will sell cheaper but I don\'t believe at all that Nintendo won\'t be taking a hit on hardware.

3. Peter Main has stated repeatedely that Nintendo is aiming for a "mass-market friendly" price for the GC. [/B]

Well aren\'t they all.  N64 did the same thing

Originally posted by ddaryl


Actually. Standard DVD\'s are made by many and the prices on  them are competitive. Nintendo\'s Mini DVD\'s are proritized and have to be bought from Nintendo. More than likely these special Mini DVD\'s will cost a little more then the Standards

As for liscensing fees. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT only pennies. Money needs to be made Nintendo is no different from the rest here.  GC games will probably sell $5 to $10 more then XBOX and PS2 games IMO.

"Nintendo\'s proprietary Gamecube discs will not inflate the costs of development, and in fact the company has said that its licensing fees for third-parties are comparable, if not better than those of competitor Sony\'s for PlayStation 2. "

Source: IGN Ultimate Gamecube FAQ http://cube.ign.com/news/23749.html

Every console has liscensing fees, as stated in the quote. I doubt that the price difference of Mini-DVD\'s wil be as drastic as it was with catridges and CD\'s. If it is, then Nintendo has been digging their own grave from the start. Also, this is just my assumption, but won\'t the smaller size of the Mini-DVD\'s have some impact on its manuafacturing costs?? (less plastic, cheaper??)  

Yes, but adding the capabilities to use the PS2 as a DVD player costs a few bucks at the most, and is probably so minute it it isn\'t worth mentioning at all.  Same with the CD player, the capabilities are already on the machine adding the necessary drivers really isn\'t that much at all

Gamecube will sell cheaper but I don\'t believe at all that Nintendo won\'t be taking a hit on hardware.

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"In accordance with the DVD Forum (formerly DVD Consortium), an organization founded and maintained by major electronics manufacturers worldwide, any corporation wishing to release a DVD-branded device capable of playing DVD movies into the mass-market must pay a fee of approximately $20 per unit to the Forum. Therefore, Nintendo would have to pay $20 to the Forum for every Gamecube unit shipped—an amount of money that, it seems, is unacceptable. " - IGN FAQ

It\'s a little more than a few bucks. Also, if you look here, you can see that IGN expects a price between $150 and $200 for the GC, and I don\'t think they mention any losses in hardware profits.  

Well aren\'t they all.  N64 did the same thing

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I wouldn\'t know, since I started gaming with the N64. But with rumours of GC games costing around $40 or $50, and the estimated price of the GC hardware, I\'d give Nintendo more credit this generation than many people gave the N64.

I guess we\'ll find out if this is all rubbish or not soon though. Only 7 days left till E3.

Originally posted by ddaryl
Actually . Standard DVD\'s are made by many and the prices on  them are competitive. Nintendo\'s Mini DVD\'s are proritized and have to be bought from Nintendo. More than likely these special Mini DVD\'s will cost a little more then the Standards

Prioritized does not mean expensive. They will of course be more expensive but the difference IMO will be negligable.

Originally posted by ddaryl
As for liscensing fees. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT only pennies. Money needs to be made Nintendo is no different from the rest here.  GC games will probably sell $5 to $10 more then XBOX and PS2 games IMO.

I will bet money against that. Seriously, GCN games will at most be around the same price as PS2 games. That is a fact that I am unable to prove at the moment but I will.

Originally posted by ddaryl
Yes, but adding the capabilities to use the PS2 as a DVD player costs a few bucks at the most, and is probably so minute it it isn\'t worth mentioning at all.  Same with the CD player, the capabilities are already on the machine adding the necessary drivers really isn\'t that much at all

The ability to play DVDs on a console adds at least $20 dollars to the manufacturing of each unit. Why? Because there is a $20 dollar licensing fee to use the DVD Movie Playback capabilities. XBox not including it straight out of the box allows them to charge the licensing fee to the purchase of the remote and keep the price of the Xbox down a bit. I do not know how much the CD licensing fee is(If there is one at all).

Originally posted by ddaryl
Gamecube will sell cheaper but I don\'t believe at all that Nintendo won\'t be taking a hit on hardware.

You don\'t have to believe it but as you said, the hit is "probably so minute it isn\'t worth mentioning at all."

Mr. Yamauchi is a ruthless business man.  He sets his eyes towards success, but he does so without ever uttering the words "taking a loss."

He wants success at system\'s launch followed by success afterward.  He plans this out far in advance, as you suspect each company would have with millions of dollars involved.

His orders were probably like "make something better than the best... but cheap!"

That was his motto ever since the NES.  They could have made the SNES then, but it would have cost like $400.

I guess if you want more proof to this than what IGN says, there it is in taking a look at Yamauchi\'s character. I seriously wonder how Nintendo will fair after his pending retirement.  Hopefully Lincoln and Arakawa have picked up some of his traits.

As always... we\'ll see!

-Eik