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Re: Re: President Bush Addresses America, Congress, and the World.
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2001, 05:49:56 PM »
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You can\'t defeat a enemy that is always going to change... There\'s always gonna be terrorist.. no madder how many are stopped or killed. You defeat one enemy, Then move onto another. By the time u defeat that enemy. Someone else will replace the first one..


It will never end. :/


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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2001, 06:06:50 PM »
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You can\'t defeat a enemy that is always going to change... There\'s always gonna be terrorist.. no madder how many are stopped or killed. You defeat one enemy, Then move onto another. By the time u defeat that enemy. Someone else will replace the first one..


It will never end. :/


Take a look at crime.. There\'s always police out there.. But crime still exists. You can\'t stop it.... Someone will ALWAYS CHALLENGE cops.


I disagree Soulgrind.  I think by America flexing their muscles here and acting on terrorism is makes the terrorist communities stop and say, "wow we could get ourselves into some serious -bleep- here."  They might weigh the consequences and with SO many nations helping in this fight they will realize its a lost cause.  It just that terrorism has gone pretty much unchecked these past years that terrorist think they will succeed, and usually do.
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2001, 06:18:23 PM »
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I disagree Soulgrind.  I think by America flexing their muscles here and acting on terrorism is makes the terrorist communities stop and say, "wow we could get ourselves into some serious -bleep- here."  They might weigh the consequences and with SO many nations helping in this fight they will realize its a lost cause.  It just that terrorism has gone pretty much unchecked these past years that terrorist think they will succeed, and usually do.


That may be true for these Islamic extremist nut-jobs, but what about the other terrorists? What about the Hamas, the Tamil Tigers, etc? These are terrorist organizations born from oppressed/marginalized people - their lives are so cr@p, and NO ONE will do anything, they can\'t wage war because they might not even have food to eat, so they have to turn to terrorism to get their point across.

As long as there are marginalized and oppressed people there will always be terrorism. And that\'s the clue - sure, stomp out the terrorists, but also think about why they would be so dedicated to a cause that they would kill themselves to achieve their goal.

Instead of waging \'wars on terrorism\', \'wars on drugs\' etc, why don\'t the rich nations of the world wage \'wars on poverty\' and \'wars on oppression\'. Think of how many trillion dollars are spent on weapons a year around the world - if we just spent a fraction of that on making sure people have food to eat and a place to live then maybe people wouldn\'t go around blowing each other up.

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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2001, 06:27:49 PM »
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That may be true for these Islamic extremist nut-jobs, but what about the other terrorists? What about the Hamas, the Tamil Tigers, etc? These are terrorist organizations born from oppressed/marginalized people - their lives are so cr@p, and NO ONE will do anything, they can\'t wage war because they might not even have food to eat, so they have to turn to terrorism to get their point across.

As long as there are marginalized and oppressed people there will always be terrorism. And that\'s the clue - sure, stomp out the terrorists, but also think about why they would be so dedicated to a cause that they would kill themselves to achieve their goal.

Instead of waging \'wars on terrorism\', \'wars on drugs\' etc, why don\'t the rich nations of the world wage \'wars on poverty\' and \'wars on oppression\'. Think of how many trillion dollars are spent on weapons a year around the world - if we just spent a fraction of that on making sure people have food to eat and a place to live then maybe people wouldn\'t go around blowing each other up.

 


I agree.

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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2001, 10:33:04 PM »
As long as there are men on this earth, there will be evil.  It takes those who will stand up to that evil and stop it to protect the innocent.

America has the power to stand up and bring justice to these people.  Let others come and see what we will do to them.  And they will know what is waiting for them if they try to do evil.  As long as God is with us we will always prevail.

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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2001, 06:41:01 AM »
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You can\'t defeat a enemy that is always going to change... There\'s always gonna be terrorist.. no madder how many are stopped or killed. You defeat one enemy, Then move onto another. By the time u defeat that enemy. Someone else will replace the first one..


It will never end. :/


Take a look at crime.. There\'s always police out there.. But crime still exists. You can\'t stop it.... Someone will ALWAYS CHALLENGE cops.


yes i see your point, i was quoting what bush said, but i doubt that we will actually be able to take out all the global terror orgainzations. i am researching them in school right now.  i have learned alot abou them, and they wont stop.  i highly doubt that we will be able to stop them, but i like the president\'s courage in this situation.
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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2001, 09:13:11 AM »
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Take a look at crime.. There\'s always police out there.. But crime still exists. You can\'t stop it.... Someone will ALWAYS CHALLENGE cops


It\'s true that you can\'t destroy every little criminal out there. But Terrorists rarely if ever work alone, they\'re always part of a group. In the world of organized crime, they would be called The Mafia. The Mafia has been all but destroyed. The Terrorists will be as well. Organizations present large targets. Scatter these organizations, and the individuals will not have the money, timing, or knowledge to perform an attack like last Tuesday\'s.

It is probably impossible to wipe out terrorism completely, but we can ruin the major terrorist networks, it\'s not impossible.
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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2001, 12:10:48 PM »
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It is probably impossible to wipe out terrorism completely, but we can ruin the major terrorist networks, it\'s not impossible.


and with our global alliance,  i doubt it would be hard to scatter the global terrorist networks.

and this just hit me.... when will we know weve won....?

we wont.
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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2001, 05:28:24 PM »
We\'ll know when people stop bombing us and killing us and flying planes into buildings and all other terrorist stuff like that. But until we know for certain that terrorism is dead, we won\'t know.

Something just came to me. It was probably mentioned but I didn\'t read what everyone wrote. If we destroy and kill the terrorists that are wreaking havoc now, in a few years, won\'t other terrorist organizations start up and start to attack us again? Yes they would unless we take serious action and show these terrorists and future terrorists that they will be taken down. It is just like crime today. Crime is a prime example. We take down an organized crime group, others will spring up in their place. Maybe crime members that we didn\'t take down yet. We can\'t erraticate terrorism for good. We can only slow it down.
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2001, 12:19:52 AM »
Unless the US/the western world changes their way of acting there\'ll always be someone around to hate them - and someone mad enough to do something about it.
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« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2001, 03:38:45 AM »
It\'s too bad we have to charish our pop music.  Our flying kites as children.  Our allowing our women to go outside.  Our allowing women to show leg.

Whatever.  This is worth fighting for.  What am I saying.  We aren\'t even really fighting the muslims.  We are fighting these extremist freaks.
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