Tekken 4 to support HDTV..

Seems like the real deal this time folks

Played the game yesterday with a transcoder (YPbPr->RGBHV) and a PC monitor, the graphics is clean and the aliasing is on par with DOA3 on X-BOX.

This title provides progressive video output (525p) with the Component cable.

But gameplay is still like the older ones (TTT) that is not quite the way and speed that I like (DOA series).

Wonder if other coming PS2 titles will also provide the progressive option.

One thing I didn’t know is that almost half of the PS2 titles out could support HDTV.. Only that the developers did not turn the function on.

This is what Faf said from GA.

"I\'ll have to see about trying progressive yet, but I did play the game today. The image quality comment is definately true, but I already knew that from arcade version.

The progressive thing isn\'t too surprising either, like I mentioned before, at least half of PS2 games are internally compatible, just a matter of switching it on."

This my friends is freedom of development :fro:

"licks lips"  EXCELLENt - excellent..  

Ohh yeah...  Must have the HDTV support...  Must have...

[videoholic]

525P is NOT HDTV.  it is twice as good as regular TV though so I\'ll take it.  HD would be 720P or 1080i.

Originally posted by Videoholic
525P is NOT HDTV.  it is twice as good as regular TV though so I\'ll take it.  HD would be 720P or 1080i.

Its 480p, the Japanese (or Asian) sometimes say 525p, but its the same res.

[videoholic]

Yeah, I thought it was suppose to be 480p, but I noticed you wrote 525p....


480P is what FOX is presenting as their FAUX HD and it SUCKS!!!!!!  Not nearly good as full HD.

So maybe we should say this is HD, but just a digital progressive video.  

Still nicer than interlaced though.

Originally posted by Videoholic
Yeah, I thought it was suppose to be 480p, but I noticed you wrote 525p....


480P is what FOX is presenting as their FAUX HD and it SUCKS!!!!!!  Not nearly good as full HD.

So maybe we should say this is HD, but just a digital progressive video.  

Still nicer than interlaced though.

I didnt write 525p. The guy from Korea did
525p-480p same thing though so it doesnt matter.

I remember people (zelots) saying PS2 could not do progressive signals (though the Linux kit has a VESA output).. Pretty funny.

Does this just mean really smooth, no jaggies gameplay???

If it looks as good as DOA3, then I will be happy, because everyone should admit that that game is pretty damn hot in the graphics department.

Won\'t believe it till I see it.

Remember how Sled Storm for PS2 was supposed to be 1080i according to the developer interviews?

I\'d also rather believe an official announcement from Sony or Namco rather than a guy who did it on his monitor at home through the use of a transcoder.

Posted by Woof Woof on.. dig this.. :eek: TeamXbox!

Yikes!! I was an unbeliever but it is TRUE!!!

Tekken 4 runs in PROGRESSIVE MODE

Am using the official component cables from Sony, hooked up to a JVC-G1000 D-ILA projector with HDTV inputs

Just hold down Triangle and X when booting up! You are presented with some Japanese text. Default is the right option. Choose the left one (aka Yes), then the TV/projector will switch to 480p!. It will then ask you to confirm that you want to continue in 480p mode and you just choose the left option (aka Yes) again!

After you have done this once, the screen will appear the next time you boot up (no need to hold down the two buttons for subsequent boot ups).

Everything looks soooo clear and incredible!!

During the realtime replays after the CG opening, the game displays some usual warning about not playing for extended periods. With NTSC, this is all blurry, but with 480p, it is crisp and clear.

With the main game, it looks even more incredible. Because the game is sooo fast moving, you tend to get combing artefacts on progressive scan TVs when using NTSC mode. With the progressive scan mode, everything is silky smooth!!

All I can say... is THANK YOU, SONY!!!  I really didn\'t believe the PS2 could do it, but I eat my own words now!!

Now, if only other games supported this too!  

Now lemme go test this on VF4  Dang.. didn\'t work

Hmmm.. just noticed it actually says 525p on the back of the box itself! Wonder what other games have this option?

From my understanding of this, I\'m not convinced that a game running in 480p will look phenomenally better than the same game running in 480i.  It might look a little better, but it would all depend on how the developers implemented it.

Theoretically this could allow the game to display exactly twice as many unique, complete frames per second.  However, why would the developers enable this?  To draw the extra frames, they need to have processor power available to do it.  If they had spare CPU cycles to throw away, they could have used them to make the game look more polished in the normal 480i mode, which is how most PS2 owners will see it.  There\'s not much reason to hold a lot of the CPU\'s capacity in reserve just so a small percentage of their customers could activate this 480p mode on their expensive televisions.

I suspect that this game running in 480p mode will simply run at the normal speed, and repeat each frame once.  That might be a little clearer than the 480i mode, since the television CRT is drawing every frame in one pass instead of two.  I wouldn\'t expect the end result to be really obvious though.

I read you can use the VGA cable that comes with the PS2 Linux kit to play Tekken4 on a montor..

I hope they release a seperate VGA cable..

Progressive scan just means it will look alot smoother, simply because its not an interlaced picture (ie, two frames combined).

THis just creates a smoother picture, so I am not sure how it could look sharper, considering it isnt in HD.

Progressive scan looks smoother & more realistic because there\'s no combing.

 

 

Only the bottom right pic is progressive.  Ever since I got a 32" wega the combing is very noticeable and distracting, to me at least.

There seems to be a buzz about this going on over at the HT boards as well.  Some even say it\'s written on the back of the box.  Looking good....

THX: Yes it says 525p on the box..
You can play it on a monitor or a HDTV.