Kazaa vs. RIAA

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Originally posted by ViVi
You\'re such a individual LIC

Sarcasm, noted..

Originally posted by SirMystiq
Actually it\'s not really ironic. Well Kazaa is suing for them using a pirated version. Meanwhile, the songs we download aren\'t really pirates...ya get me?

I hope Kazaa wins and takes them bastards down. What\'s the worst they can do? Stop making music? Please, there\'s plenty of music from back in the day to hold me.

Not a chance to win. It\'s a last-ditch publility stunt.

Last ditch /publility/ stunt?  I think I know what you\'re trying to say.

I don\'t think its a last ditch stunt at all, Kazaa is not being sued here and they don\'t have much to worry about because of the way they\'ve registered their business.  Its difficult or actually, nearly impossible to sue them.

I was wondering how long it would take LIC to add his two cents.
It is nice to have a look at all viewpoints.

If the RIAA was using kazaa lite then they were pirating also. Simple as that.

Hopefully they lose and go the way of Napster

What, creating a cult- and many followers? They started the new generation of music sharing almost. Without Napster, we would be in a drone music industry.

You mean LIC, that they\'ll come back in two years? I heard Napster is coming back now.

Yeah napster is coming back

*looks around for napster t-shirt i bought a while ago*

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Napster has tried and tried to come back, but the fact is Napster , in its true essence is gone. If it came back, it would be a failed corporate attempt most likely. Anything else is not viable for Napster, as a company or project. Not to meniton, the filesharing process that Napster is severely out-dated now , as Kazaa and other\'s have improved on it countless times.

Napster\'s gone. Give it up.
Wanna steal? Use a frickin\' newsgroup, people!

Napster was the shit. They had a 10x cooler symbol than Kazaa or Morpheus. Someday we will all tell the tales of napster to our kids.

WOW!!!111 A COOLER SYMBOL!!!!!!!1111111111

UBUER RADICAL!

(Its called a logo)

Newsgroups are not a good option. If there is any log then you could be held liable. Or atleast that would make as much sense as going after people on file sharing programs.

The simple fact of the matter is. Where is the stopping point? If a company is loosing money then should they go after end-users?

If a company does not have the balls to go after another corporation. Then they should not be allowed to go after any end-user. Afterall a company is more out to fight than say joe six pack. IMHO when any industry goes after an end-user on any scale in a federal court. Then they are doing nothing less than extortion. Afterall it will cost an individual more to fight it than it would be to settle it.  If that is not extortion then I don\'t know what is. The goverment should step in, or class actions should be filed against the corprations attempting to extort normal people.

While I am at it. If the RIAA gets a high percentage of persons to settle. Do you honestly believe they will stop? Hell no they won\'t. They will clutter up the court systems with as many of these as they can. Extorting money hand over fist.

Perhaps next the MPAA will go after people that bought legal as of now dvd copy programs. Notice I did not mention going after the company that is getting a large bankroll from selling this product.

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Slight off - topic : I do wonder when the MPAA will throw a fit next. They already threw one when DVD-copying first came out, but that died down rather fast. Now we have programs like DVD-X, that make almost exact copies and not a lot is being said. Seems odd to me.

There is 0 way that DVD-X is legal according to the DMCA act. It circumvents encryption. Which is a major no no.

Then how can they sell it in stores? I\'m sure someone checked out the legality before stores like Best Buy put it on their shelves.
I don\'t recall seeing Napster on store shelves.

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I would imagine it is some small techincal loop-hole.

Correct LIC. I would imagine the MPAA is worried about taking them to court. It probably falls under the fair usage statute. Bottom line is though you are not allowed to backwards engineer encryption or software for that matter.


It is completely lawful to back up any medium you have. It is against the law to bypass their copy protection scheme that prevents you from making back-ups.

The first MP3 players were sold in stores for a bit before the RIAA challenged the legailty. They ended up losing, as would the MPAA. Though I would still not completely rule out the MPAA getting records and pursuing users in federal court. It would cost them about 175 to sue you. Just to get to court would cost you more than you could settle for. I personally think this would be the greatest thing in  the world. That way the archaic DMCA may get revised or dropped all together.