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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2003, 03:33:52 AM »
i\'m more concerned with planet-x killing us all then the US falling

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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2003, 03:37:47 AM »
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i\'m more concerned with planet-x killing us all then the US falling

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I am more concerned with the US & UK Economy FALLING :eek::sconf:  :ekk:

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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2003, 04:35:52 AM »
I\'m wondering if Tony Blair is gonna make it out of his term alive... there\'s a helluva lot a people pissed at him too.
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2003, 04:43:19 AM »
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I\'m wondering if Tony Blair is gonna make it out of his term alive... there\'s a helluva lot a people pissed at him too.



Alive... YES

As the Leader of Great Britan... Prob not..

the stakes are very high and he is gambeling his leadership against  on Action on Iraq going smoovely.
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2003, 12:41:54 PM »
No don\'t worry, the Democrats will be elected long before these silly republicans ruin our great country. :)
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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2003, 02:15:35 PM »
Oh yeah, like if Hillery became President...:eek:

While I don\'t believe Bush is a great President, he is, IMO, better then Clinton. If Hillery (or any other Democrats for that matter) will lead to the fall of the US if anything (giving blind faith to the UN, having the "World Court" dictate what we can and what we can\'t do, have the Kyoto Treaty which will hurt our economy and close off our forest so that we can\'t manage them [because, cutting trees is EVIL. Even though if a forest fire goes through it, destroys it, because the forest are so overcrowded that a fire now WILL destory it instead of the years before fire suppression], but not Africa or China where their enviornment is getting worse then ours, this is what the Democrats want us to do). [edit]Actually, maybe not the Democrats especially when it concerns the Kyoto Treaty, but flaming liberals like those that belong to PETA, Sierra Club, etc. Demcrats actually voted against the Kyoto Treaty.

[edit2]Speaking of our forest, we are now being forced to buy trees from other nations because of the environmentalist. Unlike the US, which has this thing called selective cutting that, saves some trees while harvesting others, other nations will rape and pillage trees and utterly destory their forest since we can\'t touch ours. Saving the environment?

Clinton weakened the military, weakened the CIA and FBI, failed to catch Osama Bin Laden, bombed nations that we had no interest to be in (Kosovo, that "chemical" plant that turned out to be a drug making facility), heck, even bombed Iraq for the same reason that we might go to war in Iraq now, basically, if anyone weakened the US stance, it was Clinton.
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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2003, 02:37:22 PM »
The US is not likely to fall before any other major country. My biggest fear is the concept of a one world goverment controlled by some unknown world leader.

If that happens you can kiss freedom goodbye.
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2003, 02:50:17 PM »
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If that happens you can kiss freedom goodbye.



you didnt already?
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2003, 02:59:35 PM »
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going to fall?

you actually had a conversation about this with yer friends?

too funny bro

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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2003, 11:39:28 PM »
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Clinton weakened the military, weakened the CIA and FBI, failed to catch Osama Bin Laden, bombed nations that we had no interest to be in (Kosovo, that "chemical" plant that turned out to be a drug making facility), heck, even bombed Iraq for the same reason that we might go to war in Iraq now, basically, if anyone weakened the US stance, it was Clinton.


As if it wasnt stronger than currently necessary anyway.......


Prove your statements about the CIA and FBI...

Last i checked..Bush failed to do the same AND seemingly forgot about him to chase after Saddam.

If anything, that was good...it stops that many more from hating us and wanting to attack due to our policies in affairs that dont directly concern us.
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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2003, 12:08:19 AM »
Clinton hated the military. I\'m not saying that the military didn\'t need to be "reformed", but Clinton took it to the extreme and downsized it and placed generals that, didn\'t like to fight a "real" war so to speak (not to mention, he also stretched the military to its limits [Kosovo, Somalia, etc.]. In fact, seen the movie Black Hawk Down? Part of the embaressment to the US in Somalia is partly due to our troops unability to get the support and equipment needed from...dadada...Clinton. So, great day for Americans when our troops were DRAGGED on CNN by terrorist with likes to Osama Bin Laden thanks in part, by Clinton. You CAN\'T downsize the military AND increase their role in the world affiars).

Also, the difference between Bush and Clinton about OBL, Clinton was given OBL on a SILVER PLATTER by the Sudan. Clinton rejected it. Now you may say "but...Osama Bin Laden wasn\'t that big of a terrorist back then..." true and false. When Clinton turned down the offer, this was after the embassy bombings which Osama Bin Laden claimed respondsibility. Sure, not to the scale of 9-11 which made him known to every man, woman, and child in the US, but he was, even then, up there on the most wanted list. Now, we simply can\'t find the bastard (assuming he is alive. If he is alive, why is he using ONLY audio tape?). While I might blame Bush for his inability to find him or his body, at least he DIDN\'T turn down an offer to have him at his feet.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200112070235.html

As for Clinton weaking the CIA...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/11/232727.shtml
Basically, Clinton changed the rules on who can be a spy. Making it virtually impossible to get good information (i.e. unsavory people like criminals and so forth that could\'ve given us valuable information...like, I don\'t know, 9-11).

Also, Clinton\'s role in North Korea can\'t be forgotten. It was him (as well as Jimmy Carter) who opened the door to North Korea and gave them food and oil, and a reactor that was supposed to ONLY be used for nuclear power, in return that they will stop working on their nuclear weapons program. Funny, apparently North Korea...BROKE their promise and worked on it anyways. So, another situation that our great President Clinton...made worse.

The Clinton years may have won over the European leaders and the people due to Clintons inability to control "Mr. Happy". But, the rest of the world, they hated us then, and they hate us today. Clinton didn\'t win over people who hated this country in the first place.
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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2003, 08:24:39 AM »
I just read that trash about the CIA and it says nothing really.
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