How can Fox be bigger than CNN...

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I was in Atlanta last week and thought it was funny that they have two HUGE FOX billboards right outside CNN center.  I wonder if CNN did the same thing to FOX.

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Originally posted by ooseven
Going Well ?

53 DEAD US Marines since "victory" was Declared Bush.
Still No WMD found
Rising level of tension in the country
Possible return to Islamic radical fundamentalism
Tony Blair and New Labour future on a knife edge
 

Yeah, those wmd are right in the open. ooseven, you don\'t think when the war started, Saddam didn\'t stash them in the desert? It pisses me off when people say the war was a waste because WMD are not found. The wars been over for only a couple months. IT TAKES TIME TO FIND THESE THINGS. As for the country tension, that too takes time to fix. Iraq won\'t be back on its feet for another few years. Seriously, it pisses me off when people beccome too impatient about this. People don\'t realize that all these modifications and searches take time. It doesn\'t happen over night.

This was in the newspaper today.


Text reads: "Christopher Coffin is one of the 293 allied who have died in Iraq. He died on 30th June, when the war already was won."

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I wonder why they don\'t post all the pics of the people who they saved by going to war.  Or even the people that were released from the prisons that were in their for insane reasons.

Or go the other way.  Wonder why they don\'t post the pics of the people that either died or raped at the hands of the regime that these men toppled.

First, anyone hear about the barried jet planes they RECENTLY found in Iraq that happened? If it took them this long to find something THAT big in the desert, try finding viles, or even drums, of WMD in the desert.

Second, when it concerns the power situation...have you ever asked yourself, were there power there in the first place? Getting power back on is a little hard when there are areas that didn\'t have power in the first place now is it? Certain questions...people seem to convienantly not answer that question.

Third, lawlessness. What lawlessness? Sure, you may not have complete order like you did in Saddam\'s day, but what would you rather have? Absolutely no freedom to do anything for order or a freedom from the fear but with some "lawlessness"? I don\'t know about you, but I would rather have freedom then having to fear being raped, tourtured, or even murdered in order to have "order". Is Iraq a nice place? No. But what did you expect right AFTER the war ended? Instant peace and prosperity? :rolleyes:

Fourth, protecting the oil infrastructure and other government buildings. Well, first, if the oil infrastructure goes, where will the Iraqis get the money to rebuild their nation, and even rise up from the poverty that was inflicted on them by Saddam? Second, the government buildings...you need those documents in order find those WMD. If the USA loses those, it would make it even harder to find those weapons the people on the left are bitching about. Of coarse, I guess that would be the point since they never like the war in the first place. Third, limited resources...you CAN\'T have soldiers in every place protecting everything. You have to priorities. Also, like it or not, the war wasn\'t about helping civilians (maybe the positive after effect, but not the main reason) but finding those WMD. That gets priority first, then helping the civilians (which speaking of that...I will touch on this issue a little later).

Fifth, our soldiers being killed nearly everyday now. Unfortuenetly, until we get the police going again, it forces our soliders have to be the police force. Or do you want us to simply leave the nation and let the Iraqis fight it out? I\'m fine with that...but of coarse, that won\'t be right since...it would simply be wrong to let them deal with their own problems. But unless you have a better way of helping our soldiers while sill helping the Iraqis, I\'m all for it.

Sixth, the news coverage. As I have stated in this thread, its not simply what is being told that is missing in the coverage, but also what is NOT being told. How come you never hear the stories about the soldiers rebuilding schools, hospitals, and helping the people of Iraq get back in its feet? All you hear is how horrible the war is going from the media types. Fair and balanced? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by videoholic

I wonder why they don\'t post all the pics of the people who they saved by going to war. Or even the people that were released from the prisons that were in their for insane reasons.

Or go the other way. Wonder why they don\'t post the pics of the people that either died or raped at the hands of the regime that these men toppled.

They have already done that before.

The article is about the deaths of soldiers who died after Bush\'s Mission Complete speech (not all killed by enemies, some by accident´, some shot or blown up by friendlies.)

It also says: "According to terror-expert Magnus Ranstrop, professor at S:t Andrews University in Scotland, many al-Qaida inspired foreigners have flooded Iraq with the only purpose to kill as many western soldiers as possible.
- They\'re trying to make "thousands of wounds". Their purpose is to kill so many soldiers which will create a new Vietnam-syndrome in Iraq which will make it politically impossible for Bush and Blair to keep troops in the country."

Hmmm..

Originally posted by videoholic
I wonder why they don\'t post all the pics of the people who they saved by going to war.  Or even the people that were released from the prisons that were in their for insane reasons.

Or go the other way.  Wonder why they don\'t post the pics of the people that either died or raped at the hands of the regime that these men toppled.

Cant speak for everyone, but I know I speak for alot.

We dont give a fukk about them, only our own. The whole reason we shouldnt have gone over there. Fukk them......


Yea, I know I was real eloquent, but it basically sums it up.

I don\'t even think those people had a chance to be photographed. I mean, if you had a picture of yourself then you had to be pretty high class as an Iraqi.

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Originally posted by Simchoy
First, anyone hear about the barried jet planes they RECENTLY found in Iraq that happened? If it took them this long to find something THAT big in the desert, try finding viles, or even drums, of WMD in the desert.

Second, when it concerns the power situation...have you ever asked yourself, were there power there in the first place? Getting power back on is a little hard when there are areas that didn\'t have power in the first place now is it? Certain questions...people seem to convienantly not answer that question.

Third, lawlessness. What lawlessness? Sure, you may not have complete order like you did in Saddam\'s day, but what would you rather have? Absolutely no freedom to do anything for order or a freedom from the fear but with some "lawlessness"? I don\'t know about you, but I would rather have freedom then having to fear being raped, tourtured, or even murdered in order to have "order". Is Iraq a nice place? No. But what did you expect right AFTER the war ended? Instant peace and prosperity? :rolleyes:

Fourth, protecting the oil infrastructure and other government buildings. Well, first, if the oil infrastructure goes, where will the Iraqis get the money to rebuild their nation, and even rise up from the poverty that was inflicted on them by Saddam? Second, the government buildings...you need those documents in order find those WMD. If the USA loses those, it would make it even harder to find those weapons the people on the left are bitching about. Of coarse, I guess that would be the point since they never like the war in the first place. Third, limited resources...you CAN\'T have soldiers in every place protecting everything. You have to priorities. Also, like it or not, the war wasn\'t about helping civilians (maybe the positive after effect, but not the main reason) but finding those WMD. That gets priority first, then helping the civilians (which speaking of that...I will touch on this issue a little later).

Fifth, our soldiers being killed nearly everyday now. Unfortuenetly, until we get the police going again, it forces our soliders have to be the police force. Or do you want us to simply leave the nation and let the Iraqis fight it out? I\'m fine with that...but of coarse, that won\'t be right since...it would simply be wrong to let them deal with their own problems. But unless you have a better way of helping our soldiers while sill helping the Iraqis, I\'m all for it.

Sixth, the news coverage. As I have stated in this thread, its not simply what is being told that is missing in the coverage, but also what is NOT being told. How come you never hear the stories about the soldiers rebuilding schools, hospitals, and helping the people of Iraq get back in its feet? All you hear is how horrible the war is going from the media types. Fair and balanced? :rolleyes:

Nice reply.  Although the only thing people will probably have to say back to you is that you spelled course wrong.