Mans best friends returns to the dust it came from?

Dont post in a thread unless you have something to contribute. So scram.

Well based on the fact that I mentioned god and souls must mean I believe in the bible. And based on the word of god we all have a soul. And seeing how this is going more religous the bible never mention god giving an aminal a soul.

You apprently didnt read my posts well. I wasnt even talking to you. I was talking to Cloud345. So accept that you were wrong. Nothing in my post I intended to you.

Evolution is a crock. Natural selection makes much more sense.

:rolleyes: They are an intertwined theory. Learn about it in biology when you pass 3rd grade, Alright?

Apart from spudz claiming that dogs may be more intelligent than us I actually agree with him here...

Here is what I mean by the animals being smarter than us.

What does a dog do to live a happy life? Nothing. He uses us. It requires little or no effort for him to prosper. He USES us. For all we know, Spike could hold the secrets of the world. But we will never know, unless mind reading is possible. Just because they cant talk english, and cant stand up straight doesnt mean that they are stupid. Maybe walking on 4 legs, as they do causes less back problems. Maybe how dogs speak is more efficent, and time saving than us. Think about it, one bark in a pitch could be an entire sentence or mood.

This goes for all animals.

[Paul2]

Originally posted by QuDDus
I get what your saying evolution=fake
Evolution is just a way for people to justify there own bad behavior.

I don\'t know if evolution is fake or not, what i want to say is, i and i believe many people would want this too, is to be more free.  Less work, less studies, more free time, smart people don\'t have to studies so hard to get a high job and big pay, and things that can be improve.  It would be nice if human can fly, i mean just fly with their feet up on the air, no need to use wings or anything.  Just simply fly naturally so they can go anywhere they want.  Of couse there will be a height limit how far they can fly otherwise, they will reach the atmosphere.  I will say fly about 20 - 25 feet above ground is pretty high.

Evoluton:
A Baby on its back
learn to crawl
learn to walk
and learn to fly...wow...wouldn\'t tha be cool?
How about underwater?  human can hold breather underwater longer than several minutes.  Would it be cool if we can mutate and stay under for as long as 1 hour?  Shrug.  But that\'s not as important as flying.

I believe I can fly.  whoosh...

sorry, i need to lay off the shrooms.

Evolution will only take place in millions and millions of years. Also, the evolution must be key to survival. You wont just grow wings just to fly. You would need to.

Originally posted by (e)
Dont post in a thread unless you have something to contribute. So scram.

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Don\'t preach to me on how to post, thats definitely the pot calling the kettle black.

Originally posted by (e)

:rolleyes: They are an intertwined theory. Learn about it in biology when you pass 3rd grade, Alright?

Evolution is science\'s explanation for us being here because they don\'t believe in a higher power. They think we just start mutating over time.  Natural selection simply weeds out the weakest of a particular species (giraffes with short necks) and the only animals reproducing are the ones with the highest rate of survival. It\'s all genetic, nothing is mutating to help it adapt.

Originally posted by (e)

What does a dog do to live a happy life? Nothing. He uses us. It requires little or no effort for him to prosper. He USES us. For all we know, Spike could hold the secrets of the world. But we will never know, unless mind reading is possible. Just because they cant talk english, and cant stand up straight doesnt mean that they are stupid. Maybe walking on 4 legs, as they do causes less back problems. Maybe how dogs speak is more efficent, and time saving than us. Think about it, one bark in a pitch could be an entire sentence or mood.
 

Use us? Are you kidding me? How about you quit watching the sci-fi channel for a second and come back to reality. Do you think when a dog is being fed he\'s thinking, "Oh yeah! These tools are feeding me again, what a bunch of morons. Man this is the life!" Highly doubtful. If they were as smart as you believe them to be, they wouldn\'t be eating the crap they do, and would cook themselves a steak while we are gone. Then they would proceed to licking their balls.

Great theory Eskimo boy.

Originally posted by Paul2

sorry, i need to lay off the shrooms.

Only thing I agreed with in your post.

Originally posted by (e)
Evolution will only take place in millions and millions of years. Also, the evolution must be key to survival. You wont just grow wings just to fly. You would need to.

Because you sound  so certain, explain how we can mutate. Let\'s say the polar ice caps melt and the world is flooded, a process that takes millions of years. How will our genetics magically alter and we start growing gills and adapting to a world of only water? Will we have to have sex with dolphins?

Humans and animals don\'t have souls. all lving things are concious on some level... lower animals have "instincts"

Lower animals don\'t have emotion, Humans have emotion because of natural instinct combined with high intelligence.

[evil dead]I\'ll swallow your soul![/evil dead]

Originally posted by (e)
If that was an attempt at an insult, I may be insulted, but Im not.

It is not proven anywhere that humans have souls, or animals. It is not proven they dont have concious, most data shows they do. As why else would they take good care of their young?

Dont try to call me stupid, I know my shit. Now get yours together if you want to debate.

animals survive on instinct, humans survive on culture, that, and that alone is the difference between humans and animals....

Originally posted by (e)
animals could be smarter than us. Their is no way of knowing.

I agree with you on that one, although for different reasons....
it\'s also more of a Philosofic one: can\'t it be possible that the human species are so incredibly non-intelligent that we only think we rule the world, while in reality monkeys, dogs, plants or whatever do?
of course this seems very unlikely and there is little reason to worry about it, nevertheless, it\'s not entirely impossible...

[GmanJoe]

Originally posted by QuDDus
It seems like i trust dogs more than i trust humans. I know my dog will never turn her back on me. All she wants is food and water and to get of the leash sometimes.

I can\'t find anywhere in the bible were god says an animal goes to heaven. Furthermore dogs have no soul:eek:

I didn\'t read any of the jibber jabber above coz I know it\'s all useless bantering.....and jibber jabber.

Anyway, I had to put my dog down last year. I was very sad but I knew it was the best for good old Rocky. Dogs do go to heaven. Why? Well....I just know. Dogs have always been around humans since before civilization began. In fact, we probably depended on each other for our survival. There\'s evidence that proves this. Cave paintings from pre-history depicts humans and dogs hunting together. Cool, huh?

[Living-In-Clip]

I have to agree, the new Spudz is more annoying than anything. Tries to sound smart, come\'s off just plain ignorant. I was enjoying this discussion, until I read about Spike holding the secerts to the world..


However...

we do have a conscience

That is nothing more than pre-enforced rights and wrongs, drilled into our minds by the goverment and social standards. We made that. We are not born with it. If you take a kid, never teach him our "rights" and "wrongs", then they don\'t exist to that kid. Your "conscience" (which you also claim to be the "soul") does exist, but only because it\'s forced onto us.