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« Reply #75 on: May 17, 2004, 08:17:02 PM »
Ya.. tell me about it.. my current rig has rambus ram (same idea).... sure is nice one the one hand, but it cost me an arm and a leg.  I wouldn\'t go that route again unless I had to.. well.. actually... I like my RDram :p
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« Reply #76 on: May 17, 2004, 08:21:57 PM »
Fatal if you test the rails on the Enermax when they are in intense use with a voltmeter you will see fluctuations of .5 -.10 with Enermax or ANTEC.

With the PC-Power and cooling no matter what you throw at that best, you cannot move it. There is no change from idle to load. Less than 1% variance has been recorded by myself(I used a Fluke), and every other reviewer that has tested them. Go look at any spec for a Dream PC from MAXIUM PC to any website building one. You will notice the PSU unit used in any Cream del la crop PC is a PC Power & Cooling "Turbo-Cool 510 ATX Deluxe"

Anyone in the PSU business knows the Old saying; the weight of a PSU generally is a tall tale sign of its quality.

Below is pics of what a real PSU should look like.




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« Reply #77 on: May 17, 2004, 08:25:19 PM »
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a.. tell me about it.. my current rig has rambus ram (same idea)


My rig is using 1gb of pc1066 RDRAM ( I was given it for less than 70% of it\'s retail price, and even then it was still expensive)

Also RAMBUS XDR is going to be amazing fast(rise and fall on the octual clock). PS3 is going to use XDR.

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« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2004, 08:29:06 PM »
Same as my rig Nvidia256. ;)

While it does look like they use some heavy duty components... don\'t write of enermax quite yet.  Although that site did rate the Turbo Cool 510 an editor\'s choice, and it got 9.5/10 the enermax got 9/10 and "highly recommended" - and look at the results of their tests.  Like I said.. I tested my PS, and it was ROCK STEADY.
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« Reply #79 on: May 17, 2004, 08:38:34 PM »
the enermax is not crap, however it is not of the same calibur of the PC&C.

the enermax is like a M5-BMW and while you guessed it, the PC&C is a Ferrari.

One more thing Fatal, PC&C is built in the USA, not some third world country mass slavery production line.

Also the rating system used for your enermax, ANTEC or VANTEC is fudged/inaccurate. You see the rating for example: 550W was measured while the PSU was at a temperature of 25c
Problem with that is typical PSU in a PC runs at 40c and if you overclock and have lots of components 45-50c. If you live in a hot country like down south USA your in for even more trouble.

So at 40c (average temp for PSU) your 550W unit is really only able to put out 366W, and we are not talking clean stable power(at least what I consider clean power)

Anyways the thing is for your next purchase stay away form the commercial units, and stick with FORTON and if you have money to burn PC&C. I\'m not trying to bash the mainstream companies, Heck I have a ANTEC True power 550 in my girldfreinds rig (which by the way she is a computer ****-up)

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enermax got 9/10 and "highly recommended


That rating is based on performance/PRICE
if you had to do a head to head, the bar would be raised for the enermax therefore scoring lower.
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« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2004, 08:46:49 PM »
I don\'t have money to burn, but I find money to buy the best.. I\'ll look into it more.

The llink was merely to back up what I\'m telling you.. that from my personal testing of my PS, it\'s rock solid under load and regular temperature.

I guess I was just irritated by the fact that you said
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just want to add that ANTEC, VANTEC, and ENERMAX are nothing more than average PSU.


But now that you\'ve compared them to a very nice BMW, I\'m happy. :p

After all, the parts we choose for our rigs.. we all feel like our choice is representative of ourselves.. and we all defend them because nobody wants to hear negatives....

PS - From that site, the Antec didn\'t do nearly as well in the test (under powered, although not by a huge amount) as the Enermax or the P&C.
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« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2004, 08:51:08 PM »
Hey man I hear ya, I bought that ANTEC before I knew about the better stuff, Boy was I pissed. Keep in mind the PC&C cost $179us. For alot of people that is unacceptable for a psu, but if you want quality you pay for it, just like RAM, CPU , HDD etc...

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« Reply #82 on: May 17, 2004, 09:05:19 PM »
If you compare a computer to a person.. the PS is one of the two most vital parts.. and not something you should ever scrimp on.

MB/CPU         - Brain
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« Reply #83 on: May 17, 2004, 09:09:27 PM »
Statistically speaking the #1 cause of computer malfunction/problems is related to a cheap crappy PSU. I believe Ram takes the #2 spot

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« Reply #84 on: May 17, 2004, 09:30:32 PM »
Nvidia, you may think that the 5950 is crap, but I have yet to play ANY game with full specs and have to worry about framerates.  I know doom III is a beast, but I\'m happy with my card and the price I paid.

And the monitor was a very nice LCD, I switched to crt and installed the LCD on my boat.
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« Reply #85 on: May 17, 2004, 09:43:12 PM »
LCD\'s are nice to surf the web, read text etc...

When it comes to gaming they still don\'t messure up.

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« Reply #86 on: May 17, 2004, 09:52:34 PM »
I originally bought it because it was a great sale and was going to ebay it, but decided to transfer it to the boat and ended up buying a crt, and though I wish it were smaller (depth wise), it has a great resolution and refresh rate.

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« Reply #87 on: May 18, 2004, 03:21:07 AM »
thanks for wasting you\'re time LiC, mine is too precious.

in the 10 seconds that i feel like spending

Creative Labs Soundblaster Audigy Plantium ZS - $200 can be had for 100$

i paid 60$ for my audigy ZS

you must be one of the suckers that paid 3500$ for a PC
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