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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2004, 07:30:29 AM »
Obviously they\'re not going to be 300hp... but they will probably be 250 - 260hp.  We\'re not talking about millions of dollars here, we\'re talking about thousands of dollars.

I don\'t understand your point about the transmission.  WRC transmissions were always wild ass high tech systems that had no connection whatsoever with their mass market factory equivalent.  This is not going to change that... it will just increase reliability because they\'ll be going with a more conservative, proven design.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2004, 09:39:40 AM »
I would have to agree with cored on this one. The trannies wont matter TOO much. As for squeazing horses out, it wont be to incredibly hard. Of course turbo is the easiest way to go but you cant forget the things that come with it to make it run smoothly. Obviously you just cant throw one in and expect everything to be fine and dandy.

Plus, isnt the S2000 a 250 hp NA stock? Im pretty sure. AND its 4 cylinders correct? With a lightwhweight frame they will be able to do a lot.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2004, 12:38:05 PM »
The S2000 1st gen engine, the F20C, makes 240hp.  A racing engine with shorter longevity could certainly be built to make 260hp or more without forced induction.  It\'s all a matter of who has experience with high power, small displacement engines.  Honda, Toyota, Suzuki, even Subaru and Peugeot / Citroen should be successful.  Ford & Skoda will probably fall by the wayside.
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2004, 04:31:11 PM »
Im no expert but Peugot and Citroen experts on low displacement/high output engines? Maybe im just not thinking but if it wasnt for the turbos, both the 206 and the xsara would be very lacking and stock more or less. Like i said i could just not be remembering things right.
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2004, 04:54:03 PM »
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What\'s the logic?  They trying to create a bettter standard of engineering or something?

And why isn\'t Bigfoot allowed in WRC? It\'s offroad right?


If you think they can drive a bigfoot just like a rally car and even manage good times then think again  :)

There are also other categories of off road racing where the bigfoot might be accepted to race.It just doesnt fit to the WRC category
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2004, 09:27:38 PM »
Why not?  Bigfoot would easily crush these puny cars and you know it.  USA baby!

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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2004, 04:08:51 AM »
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Why not?  Bigfoot would easily crush these puny cars and you know it.  USA baby!

Yeah and then it would fall off a damn cliff and that would be the end of it.

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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2004, 05:39:55 AM »
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Obviously they\'re not going to be 300hp... but they will probably be 250 - 260hp.  We\'re not talking about millions of dollars here, we\'re talking about thousands of dollars.

I don\'t understand your point about the transmission.  WRC transmissions were always wild ass high tech systems that had no connection whatsoever with their mass market factory equivalent.  This is not going to change that... it will just increase reliability because they\'ll be going with a more conservative, proven design.


That\'s just it. One source trannies pretty much put a hold on innovation, a la NASCAR. And as for your "no connection to their mass market factory equivelant" - not quite accurate. The DCCD was derived from WRC. :) Subies have them! :D

This is still all just talk right now. There\'s still a lot of room for compromise. If not, FIA WRC is not the only rally racing organization around.
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