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« on: December 11, 2004, 11:46:39 PM »
Hey guys, I\'m getting a DVD player from my parents for good ol xmas. Now i\'ve 200AUD bucks to choose a player with.  I wanted a player that can read dvd-/+ R/RW, MP3 and Divx. i found one that looks good, but i know nothing about the brand.


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Zensonic Z330 DVD/MPEG4/Avi Player will play your AVI and MPG4 files! [1yr warranty] $139.70


Based on the next generation MPEG4 Chipset -- MTK1389FE. The MTK1389FE supports raw MPEG1/MPEG2/MPEG-4 AVI, Xvid, VBR MP3, WMA, JPEG, PhotoCD and HDCD. Burn your favorite PC format files into CDR and watch it on big screen TV!
 
Offers the best MPEG4 playback quality and compatibility, supports high level MPEG4 features like Qpel (Quarter pixel), GMC (Global Motion Compensation) and advance noise reduction.

100% hardware based MPEG4 decoder, can fast forward/rewind MPEG4 video up to 32X speed.
Six built-in 12-bit, 108Mhz video DACs. Offers video quality which is only available in high end DVD players. New MDDI (Media Direct De-Interlacing) Progressive scan technology.

Supports all recordable media formats – CD-R/RW, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW. Put multiple movie files in one single DVD-R and play them all!
Region Code Free. Supports manual region code switch – no problems playing RCE (Region Code Enhanced) DVDs!
Supports DVD Aspect Ratio 4:3 Pan Scan, 4:3 Letter Box, and 16:9 Wide Screen.

Parental lock, Multi Language (Sound Track), Multi Subtitle and Multi Angle for DVD playback. Plays Pal 16:9 Anamorphic DVD on an NTSC TV without the “squeeze effect“.
Supports Firmware upgrade. New firmware will be released by Zensonic and will support future new codecs.
PAL and NTSC S-Video, Component Video (YPbPr), VGA and Composite output. Play PAL movies on NTSC TV or Play NTSC movies on PAL TV.

Optical, Coaxial S/PDIF and RCA output. Supports Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS digital output, or 2 Channels analog stereo output. Built-in Dolby Surround Sound decoder. Supports Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS ditigal output, or 2-channel analog stereo output

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Anyone know if its worth the buy? or is the brand known to be crap?
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2004, 12:59:44 AM »
Well if it\'s really for your parents are you sure they\'ll need divx and mp3 decoding capability? :)  If you want quality just play it safe with a name brand from Japan.

Pioneer 578 is the current multi-format budget player of choice.  Does mp3 but not divx.

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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2004, 02:10:57 AM »
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Well if it\'s really for your parents are you sure they\'ll need divx and mp3 decoding capability? :)  

I think it\'s for himself. :p

But yeah, I\'d rather stick with Pioneer than some shit-in-a-box brand that does everything for $10.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2004, 02:49:59 AM »
Its for me FROM my parents..  I want DIVX playback.. But i\'ve only got 200 to play with.

Read some reviews for it, seems pretty much every person is pretty happy with the unit.  

Reviews
http://forums.eyo.com.au/showthread.php?t=57916
http://www.productreview.com.au/showitem.php?item_id=1788

What makes me want to give this a whirl is the massive support this player seems to have..  Plus being able to play pretty much anything i throw in it sounds good...


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Specifications
 
Media Type Support
CDROM, CD-R/RW, DVD, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW  

Media Format Support
Audio CD, Video CD, Super Video CD, HDCD, Kodak PhotoCD, DVD  

Codec Support
Xvid, MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4, MP3(VBR), WMA, JPEG, PhotoCD  

Firmware Upgradeable  

Audio Response
20Hz-20 kHz  

Audio S/N Ratio
>95dB  

THD
0.003%  

Channel Separation
85dB  

Audio DAC
96Khz/24 bit Audio D/A Converter  

Video DAC
Six pair 12 bit 108 MHz Video D/A Converter  
 
Video resolution
520 lines or higher (Progressive Scan)  

Video S/N ratio
60dB  

Audio Output (Analog)
Electric level output: 2V, resistance: 10 Kohm  

Audio Output (Digital)
Electric level output: 0.5V p-p, resistance: 75ohm  

Video Output
Electric level output: 1V p-p, resistance: 750ohm unbalanced negative  

S-Video Output
Electric level output: brightness (Y) 1V p-p, Chrominance (C): 0.286V p-p, resistance: 75ohm  

Power
240V 50Hz  

Power Consumption
25W  

Dimensions
420x270x40mm  

Weight
1.8kg  
 

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2004, 06:07:33 AM »
Looks really good, I got a pretty cheap Centrum DVD player that can play DivX/XviD etc, I\'ve played perhaps 30 DivX movies since I got it, and had problems with one or two of them..
But your model looks a lot better, go for it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2004, 11:48:34 AM »
from the dvd player you mention,

its have average audio quality compare to other dvd player and video signal to noise ratio is 60 dB which is average where 70 dB and lower (in negativer form greater > - 70 dB).  Some low end dvd players have as greater than -65 dB in video noise for Y Pb and Pr....

if video performance and deinterlacer are important to you, here is some of those you want to see if it "passes".

-blacker than black (and whiter than white)
-video level ( 0 IRE for black and 100 IRE for white)
-YC delay
-frequency response
-image cropping
-chroma bugs...(red and blue streak from y cb cr 4:2:0 upsample to 4:2:2 and 4:4:4)...

here is a link list of dvd player tested in video performance

DVD Player Shootouts!

....as you can see....Toshiba sd3960 won the budget for its video performance.  For only $70, it have great video performance, plays mp3 and wma...

so, i recommend you to get toshiba sd3960 if you value picture quality and save $180 for something else.

video performance


video frequency
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2004, 01:23:41 PM »
DVD players are going to totally change next year.  That\'s why they are going for so darn cheap.  

I Certainly wouldn\'t ask for one from my parents.

How ar eyou going to be able to explain needing one next Christmas if they just got you one this Christmas?
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2004, 05:33:53 PM »
I\'ll just buy my own by then...

and paul, my player isn\'t in your little list.. Hard to compare something when its not there.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2004, 07:21:30 PM »
wrong there.  First, its not my list.  I got it from the audio/video expert website.

Is there, but true that its hard to test it.

Come on Videoholic,
you know what blacker than black and video level is.  Tell him I am not bluffing.

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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2004, 08:39:22 PM »
I\'m not really paying attention to what you wrote, but black is at 7IRE and what\'s below it is considered super black.  It\'s illegal to broadcast, but used for keying.

Above 100 use to be unacceptable.  Now that we are in the digital world they are letting us go up to I think 110.  Not too sure.  I have editors to do that crap.  

You can go a little bit higher on Chroma than luminance, but don\'t remember the critical levels.

But in any regard, the player with the widest span of levels is of course better.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2004, 10:31:41 PM »
Well, i bought the dvd player and it plays everything i throw in it no problems. The Black levels are as dark as my monitors black levels which are very black..  Personally, i don\'t care about all the frequency responses, blacker then black crap.   If its as dark as my monitor, its dark enough for me. It also will work with my monitor.. VGA out is groovy.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2004, 10:33:50 PM »
below 7.5 IRE for blacker than black for US NTSC TV.  HDTV is 0 IRE for black and below 0 IRE is blacker than black.  Above 100 IRE may clip white level, but not much as long as it in the whiter than white.  Same could be said about clipping black too.  110 IRE is a little too much and clips.

a little chroma saturation is by taste, one might prefer accuracy while other prefer a little oversaturation.  There is nothing wrong with that, each people have their own taste on it.

 

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