Author Topic: MS Fista - bend over baby. 4 gigs of RAM to run this shiny turd. (Read 941 times)

GmanJoe · « **on:** January 30, 2007, 10:17:38 AM »

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Vista makes me sad

Five years for a chrome-plated turd

By Charlie Demerjian: Tuesday 30 January 2007, 10:06
VISTA WILL LAUNCH today with fanfare, parties, hypocrisy, hollow promises and tame reviews. For me, it is something different, it makes me sad.

MS will tell you that Vista is the next great thing in every way, it took billions of dollars to develop, millions of man-hours, and undoubtedly will be the best selling OS ever launched. The problem is that Vista brings almost nothing to the table that can\'t be described by as three year old as "shiny".

Let\'s look at it this way, ask yourself what good new features Vista brings to the table. Most will respond that it has Aero Glass, a really pretty UI. How may other things does it bring that are positives? I can\'t honestly think of one, and I\'ll bet if you ask the next ten people you run into, they won\'t be able to tell you any either.

Repeat the same exercise in the negative, what bad new things does Vista bring? Massive crushing DRM infections, unacceptable licence terms, bloated hardware requirements, and a list of cut features long enough to paper your bathroom. To be fair, the next ten people you ask probably won\'t know that part either.*

So the fanfare will happen, people will swoon for all they are bribed to swoon for, the tech journalist community is too heavily dependent on MS marketing dollars to say anything more than a tepid condemnation, and the expected show will go on. It will be spun as a huge success, and the MS monopoly will roll on.

As I said before, to me this is a sad thing. Why? MS, possibly the richest most powerful and recognised company on the planet gave us Vista. They can buy governments to quash lawsuits, bend large companies with a mere audit, and co-opt technologies with the writ of a lawyer, and all we get is a shiny UI?

If this is all the billions, man-hours and years brought, what was the point? We get a bloated, DRM infected rights removal tool that advances the state of the art to where Apple was the better part of a decade ago, and we are supposed to call this progress? Puh-leeze.

MS is in a rut. The firm has cowered, co-opted or bought all the critics, and any message coming out of the press will be well scripted. Possibly the last big OS ever made is going to be a chrome plated turd, no one has the guts to say it, everyone will pretend it is great because everyone pretends it is great.

Vista could have been innovative instead of warmed over. Vista could have defended our rights instead of raping them. Vista could have been lean and mean instead of bloated and DRM slowed. Vista could have brought new ways of doing things instead of the same old same old. Vista could have been cheaper instead of a stealth price increase. Vista could have pioneered new ways of letting us use computers instead of activated tethers and licence problems. Vista could have been compatible and advanced standards instead of breaking software in the name of locking you in.

Guess what?

See why I am sad?**

I think we would have been better off if MS packed it in and spent the money on the moon shot they are so fond of making comparisons too. We would have gotten shiny there also, without the handcuffs, and we would not have had to lie to our office mates about how much we love it. Are you sad now too? µ

* If anyone does actually do this, please keep track and tell me what people say, I really want to know.

** I had Vista Beta 2 on my laptop and I was thoroughly unimpressed. I put RC2 on the 4x4 I have here, and was thoroughly unimpressed. I read the licence for release and got very scared. Until MS puts out a version that does not require activation and will never phone home without my express consent, I won\'t be impressed by the release version.

« **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2007, 01:26:54 PM »

where\'s the 4gb part ?_?

I will definitely wait until I start hearing some great reviews about it. The DRM scares me

Viper_Fujax · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2007, 02:28:13 PM »

i couldve sworn the minimum was 1.5GB..recommended was 2

GmanJoe · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2007, 02:52:27 PM »

4 gigs, in my opinion.

Viper_Fujax · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2007, 03:13:31 PM »

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060518-6863.html

4 gigs would be insane man..512mb minimum and 1gig recommended according to this site and a few others. I cant find it on the official MS site.

Im waiting till like 5 (good) games with dx 10 is out till id even think about upgrading though.

« **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2007, 08:39:59 PM »

There really is NO reason to go to Vista. In the future we may be forced to switch with support for DX 10+ being limited to Vista, but until the day Vista has something you can\'t live without, save yourself the headache and stick with an earlier and more refined version of Windows.

« **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2007, 12:49:27 AM »

Most of you already know what I think about Vista.

TURD TURD TURD

« **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2007, 03:48:50 AM »

I\'ve been using Vista since pre-RC1 and it\'s been pretty perfect. I\'ve been running it with 1gig and it\'s been just as fast as XP. Only difference is while gaming and when hardware gets better driver support it will probably run the same.

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In the future we may be forced to switch with support for DX 10

IPV6 is something that urge more then DX.

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The DRM scares me

There is nothing to be scared of DRM. Like everything else, it\'s going to be cracked just like any protection system there was in XP.

You guys read too much intraweb propaganda!

« **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2007, 04:10:57 AM »

Here\'s another good link that explain how different is the usage of RAM between XP and Vista and why you wont need 4g of ram.. 1gig more likely

http://thelazyadmin.net/index.php?/archives/396-guid.html

GmanJoe · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2007, 05:45:05 AM »

Well, my PC has 2 gigs and runs XP Media beautifully. It\'s for my wife. I have the new Mac Pro, not sure which feline is running. OSX Tigon or Liger, one of those. Vista can wait until I can download it for free.

« **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2007, 07:40:53 AM »

Mac Pro huh, [borat]very nice[/borat].

Just fyi in the latest PC Gamer, they tested a PC vs Mac Pro. The Pro came out to ~$3150 so they built a PC with the same cost. Of course the PC crushed it in gaming because it was able to get an 8800GTX. But they still praised the Mac Pro as a competitive gaming machine with a nice OS.

GmanJoe · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2007, 08:55:27 AM »

I got one game for the Mac and it was Civ IV. Best game ever made.

But I use the Mac for editing movies.

« **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:35:09 AM »

I\'ve got a free copy of legit Vista being installed on my computer as we speak. Free so why not I guess. I\'m glad to hear/figured 1gig of Ram would be sufficient.

« **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2007, 12:26:37 PM »

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But I use the Mac for editing amateur porn.

Fixed!

GmanJoe · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2007, 08:44:06 AM »

Close. I do wedding videos on the side. I\'m open to "honey moon" vids too.

BTW....a funny little prank:

http://www.informationweek.com/software/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=YTQ3KFOP5NXJ2QSNDLOSKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=197002524

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