Microsoft to Stop HD-DVD Player Production, Cut Price

Gran Turismo is good,...but i don\'t think that series is as strong as it used to be..final fantasy?...yeah i missed that one,..but square is already makin\' games on the 360 and wii so i think that it\'ll only be a matter of time...and you already see what i stated about metal gear...i\'m still a sony fan, i just hope sony tightens things up in the near future...

Gran Turismo is still doing strong. It hasnt lost its appeal. As for Final Fantasy it doesnt matter if Square Enix makes games for the 360. They were doing games for GC as well the previous generation. Final Fantasy wont be coming to the 360 and neither is MGS. These are hard tightened by Sony already. But even if they werent, both of these games are dying for disk space. Some may claim that multiple disks can do the job but the games are designed without that limitation in mind.

Rachet and Clank, Warhawk, Motorstorm and Resistance (which are very underrated but managed to build a huge fanbase) were also great games I might add and there are also much more exclusive titles coming all the way on the PS3. And the great thing is that they include new IPs and successful franchises.

The PS3 is starting to build a prober library.

Its good to see that both consoles are getting their fair share of awesome games. But as things look like currently the PS3 has a more promising upcoming library of announced games for this year and on.

Im just surprised that sony finally has a proprietary tech that didnt fail.

[Paul2]

^^^
Blu Ray wasn\'t invented solely from Sony.  There are other 10ish big name companies beside Sony that are also involved that help invented it.  And there are also small name companies that also joined the Blu Ray group to support the format.

I don\'t see many shooters on Wii. I guess it lacks time consuming RPGs, 10 hour FMV sequences games, generic racers and GTAX.

Or I guess you don\'t want to follow the trend with the popular system this generation.

Yea, why play GTAX when you can play Super Smash Brothers X, Zelda X, Mario Kart X, Super Mario X, Metroid X, Paper Mario X

Im just surprised that sony finally has a proprietary tech that didnt fail.

Sony has been successful with some of their tech. Blu Ray isnt the only one. Others still exist. Neither failed or become mass used.

Sony has been successful with some of their tech. Blu Ray isnt the only one. Others still exist. Neither failed or become mass used.

Not massed used , means not successful.

Phrase it however you want, but if wasn\'t massed used, then it wasn\'t a true success. It was simply a footnote in the various formats that have came and gone.

[GmanJoe]

Not massed used , means not successful.

Phrase it however you want, but if wasn\'t massed used, then it wasn\'t a true success. It was simply a footnote in the various formats that have came and gone.

Betamax had quite a following in Asia, so it wasn\'t exactly a failed venture.

[Paul2]

some of the products that sony made that were successful are:

- Trinitron CRT TVs
- audio cassette tape & walkman
- CD players & discman
- playstation 1 & 2 & perhaps 3...


Formats that failed are:

- betamax (failed as a consumer products, but a success for studios production)
- Minidisc
- Digital8
- MicroMv
- SACD


In the early 90s, Sony and philips made a disc format that they called MMCD (multimedia compact disc), that can hold up to 7.2 Gbytes dual layer which was conflicting with Toshiba, Pioneer, Panasonic DVD format which can hold up to 9.4 Gbytes dual layers.  After months of talk between the two format, sony & philips decided to use the higher storage DVD and abandoned MMCD, but with some features that were on MMCD being used on DVD like EFI, data decoding method, which reduce the DVD data size from 5 Gbytes to 4.7 Gbytes, but more resistance to scratch and dirt.

Had sony not pulled the plug on MMCD.  we might have a format war between MMCD versus DVD.  They learned their lesson on Beta versus VHS back in the days, so they joined the DVD group.  Beside, DVD have a higher storage density than MMCD.

As soon as DVD starting to become popular.  Sony and other big names companies like panasonic, pioneer, philips, sharp, samsung, etc invented Blu Ray.

Toshiba getting cocky about their DVD format decided not to join Blu Ray group...and later decided to make HD-DVD format...and after some negotiations between blu ray and hd-dvd, toshiba still refuses to use the more storage capacity of blu ray.  So, we have a format war between HD-DVD and Blu Ray...and we know how that turns out...

Not massed used , means not successful.

Phrase it however you want, but if wasn\'t massed used, then it wasn\'t a true success. It was simply a footnote in the various formats that have came and gone.

You are not even worth talking to. Paul has better comprehension skills

Bye bye

some of the products that sony made that were successful are:

- Trinitron CRT TVs
- audio cassette tape & walkman
- CD players & discman
- playstation 1 & 2 & perhaps 3...


Formats that failed are:

- betamax (failed as a consumer products, but a success for studios production)
- Minidisc
- Digital8
- MicroMv
- SACD


In the early 90s, Sony and philips made a disc format that they called MMCD (multimedia compact disc), that can hold up to 7.2 Gbytes dual layer which was conflicting with Toshiba, Pioneer, Panasonic DVD format which can hold up to 9.4 Gbytes dual layers.  After months of talk between the two format, sony & philips decided to use the higher storage DVD and abandoned MMCD, but with some features that were on MMCD being used on DVD like EFI, data decoding method, which reduce the DVD data size from 5 Gbytes to 4.7 Gbytes, but more resistance to scratch and dirt.

Had sony not pulled the plug on MMCD.  we might have a format war between MMCD versus DVD.  They learned their lesson on Beta versus VHS back in the days, so they joined the DVD group.  Beside, DVD have a higher storage density than MMCD.

As soon as DVD starting to become popular.  Sony and other big names companies like panasonic, pioneer, philips, sharp, samsung, etc invented Blu Ray.

Toshiba getting cocky about their DVD format decided not to join Blu Ray group...and later decided to make HD-DVD format...and after some negotiations between blu ray and hd-dvd, toshiba still refuses to use the more storage capacity of blu ray.  So, we have a format war between HD-DVD and Blu Ray...and we know how that turns out...

Yeah some of the ones you mentioned failed. Others are still used here and there like their Memory Sticks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick

Another notable successful product was the introduction of the 3.5 floppy disks.

Don\'t copy that floppy!!!

[Paul2]

speaking of floppy disks, damn are they slow.  Even their storage capacity is only 1.44 Mbytes max.  That\'s okay for storing word documents, and simple and small images.  But when it come to big images, music, and video.  it couldn\'t read as fast and will run out of space in seconds.  They are good for their times back in the 80s.

I just don\'t like how Sony make their digital picture camera with the floppy disk formats in early 2000.  Its funny that my photo teacher also uses those floppy disk digital camera back in 2002 for taking digital pictures.  He seems to know a lot when it comes to film cameras, but when it comes to digital technology like digital camera and bit rate, storage capacity, and reading writing speed.  He\'s just clueless...hence, why i kept seeing a lot of floppy disks cameras in his class.  But I kept my mouth shut and respect that and use the floppy disk digital camera for some of his project assignments.

those floppy disk cameras can only take 640 x 480 pictures with like over 10:1 compression ratio reducing the images size to like 20 - 30ish kbytes.  And even when a picture is reduce to 20 kbytes, it took like 10 seconds to write it on a floppy disk.

And what\'s worst, they are expensive like $200 - $400 back in the days.  Its just ridiculous.

I think if the teacher is familiar with computer and storage capacity, he would probably bought the most popular format which is memory cards which can range from 4 Mbytes to 512 Mbytes back in the days.  And the read and writing speed rate are like 100 times faster than floppy disk.  Plus, they are more compact too.  And the cost difference between a floppy disk camera and a memory card digital camera is small like $50 different for a decent one...

I didnt know they are still using the floppy disks for new products. Wow

[Paul2]

I didnt know they are still using the floppy disks for new products. Wow

fortunatedly, sony discontinued them like a few years ago.  according to Wikipedia, the Sony Mavica was first introduced in 1997.  In 2002, if i recalled correctly, sony sold them at price ranging from $200 to $400 as I seen a handful of them in my photography class.  Imagine how much more expensive they were back in 1997/1998.

Its just funny how Sony make a digital camera model using a floppy disk format.  They are aiming at consumers that don\'t know much about digital technology and want the familiar and convenient format of floppy disk.

Many consumers didn\'t know that memory cards store much more data, read, and write much faster than floppy disks.  They didn\'t even know that memory card is also easy to use too, by just simply plugging in the USB cable to the computer and voila, it will transfer the pics to the computer so you can print or save it on the computer.  Or just bought a memory card readers....

Many consumers, especially older generations people aren\'t familiar with memory card, usb, etc.  They live in the era of computers that use floppy disks.  So even like 2 decades later, they were sold on with a floppy disk digital camera because of the familiarity and it has the Sony brand on it.

Even sony also make a digital still camera that were saved on a mini CD-Rs.  Which is still a lot better than floppy disk in many ways...but still the storage capacity, reading, writing, and compactness of the memory cards are much better.  Plus, with memory cards,  you can overwrite file, delete images while CD-Rs are only write once...

its a good thing sony finally abandoned both format.  The funny thing is, only Sony support floppy disk digital camera back in the days when other brand brands were mainly using memory cards...and that says something.  I believe that is also the case with mini CD-Rs where only sony use it on their digital still camera.