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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2008, 03:31:05 PM »
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Do people in Mexico fucking bend over backwards to speak English for me? So because people come over here illegally, my children should learn to speak Spanish? That just sounds like liberal bullshit, again as I stated I\'m all for learning other languages as I stated above in my post which appeared to be ignored, but just because "thats the way it is" doesn\'t mean thats the way it should be. Obama only said that to appease the the mexicans that can vote and who are sympathetic to the illegals over here with 15 anchor babies.
Well it cant be necessarily liberal bs. It could be because the market absorbs and wants to absorb cheap labor, and that cheap labor happens to be largely very poor Spanish speaking (illegal or legal) immigrants. As a result it creates the need of communication. It is easier to make English-speaking Americans learn Spanish while they are young in School than try to force poor and older in age Spanish speaking immigrants learn English which may or may not go to school.

The way I see it is that Politicians know of some issues but are waiting for the right time to make suggestions like for example during election periods. In such a case they will present them in a way that they make a good impression to gain votes (latino votes) while the genuine purpose is different (edit: corporate needs, market, labor management and social reasons).
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2008, 06:16:16 PM »
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Fuck Spanish.  Why should it be required?  I am all for learning another language, but what happened to the choices we had in high school (speaking to us older folks) of German, Spanish, French and Latin?  

Now it seems Spanish is the only other language offered.  I have no desire to learn Spanish, I have no desire to go to Mexico or anywhere Spanish is spoken and I resent that my children are forced to learn Spanish when it has nothing to do with our heritage.  

As to what Paul was blathering about in the other thread regarding nationality, I am of German and English ancestry and I would like my children to have a choice to what 2nd language they want to learn.

BTW English IS the language of diplomacy.


Please provide me a quote where he said all children should be required to learn spanish, or did you just close the video after he said spanish?

mjps, half the world, maybe not mexico, but most of the world, learns english as a second language.  It just comes off as arrogant that we as a nation are so against learning something new.  And besides, its just a language, if in 200 years we\'re all speaking spanish, I could give a rats ass.
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2008, 04:55:42 AM »
Phil I didn\'t say Obama required it, the Public Schools are now requiring it.  They have been for awhile.  You no longer get choices like you once did regarding languages.

Something new?  Spanish - Mexican Style?  Gutter language.  That is nothing new.  You would be a poster child for Aztlan movement.
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2008, 07:57:32 AM »
i think teaching french, german, latin in school is a waste of time and resources. Half the kids in high school will not be going on to college and need to prepared for the real world now. what the fuck are the going to do with the ability to speak Latin other than be able to sound like a douche bag. learning Spanish now will help them get a better job when they\'re done with school. it only makes sense. if you wanna teach your kids German cause you family is from there fine but do it on your own time. the schools need to be focusing on the working world reality and the reality is that if there are 2 equally qualified employees but one speaks spanish as a second language and the other speaks french they will give the job to the spanish speaking one regardless of how much buisness the company does with spanish speaking customers or employees
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2008, 08:20:28 AM »
Learning Latin and other languages can make them better linguists in general and open the door to a whole other world of possibilities, if the students chose to follow those routes.
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2008, 08:42:06 AM »
i would think learning spanish or chinese would open a whole lot more doors then latin. it should not be the job of secondary school to make our kids into scholars it should be to prepare them for life outside their parents home
save that latin bullshit for college latin is worthless in the real world
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2008, 09:08:33 AM »
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i would think learning spanish or chinese would open a whole lot more doors then latin. it should not be the job of secondary school to make our kids into scholars it should be to prepare them for life outside their parents home
save that latin bullshit for college latin is worthless in the real world



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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2008, 09:15:51 AM »
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i think teaching french, german, latin in school is a waste of time and resources. Half the kids in high school will not be going on to college and need to prepared for the real world now. what the fuck are the going to do with the ability to speak Latin other than be able to sound like a douche bag. learning Spanish now will help them get a better job when they\'re done with school. it only makes sense. if you wanna teach your kids German cause you family is from there fine but do it on your own time. the schools need to be focusing on the working world reality and the reality is that if there are 2 equally qualified employees but one speaks spanish as a second language and the other speaks french they will give the job to the spanish speaking one regardless of how much buisness the company does with spanish speaking customers or employees


Why even teach a foreign language when most can\'t even master the English language.  

People should have choices and not be forced to take Spanish because it may get them a better job.  How many jobs are there now that require you to know Spanish and English?
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2008, 09:32:18 AM »
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Why even teach a foreign language when most can\'t even master the English language.
different topic for a different thread  

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People should have choices and not be forced to take Spanish because it may get them a better job.  How many jobs are there now that require you to know Spanish and English?
too many but thats not the point
its what the job market warrants and you cant control that
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2008, 10:09:27 AM »
Yeah..i think the learning of spanish is kinda like gas prices...people used to say that when gas prices hit $3.00 they would stop driving their cars,..but the market dictates otherwise,...so people are forced to adjust....mind you i\'m not sayin\' that it\'s right,..it\'s just the way it is or the way it is becoming...but like i stated earlier my wife really sees this thing first hand with her being a nurse,....being bilingual may not be a qualification for every job, but in certain fields i think you will find it\'s an absolute must....
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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2008, 11:34:44 AM »
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Yeah..i think the learning of spanish is kinda like gas prices...people used to say that when gas prices hit $3.00 they would stop driving their cars,..but the market dictates otherwise,...so people are forced to adjust....mind you i\'m not sayin\' that it\'s right,..it\'s just the way it is or the way it is becoming...but like i stated earlier my wife really sees this thing first hand with her being a nurse,....being bilingual may not be a qualification for every job, but in certain fields i think you will find it\'s an absolute must....



When I ran the shipping department for a place down here, one of my bosses told me that I must hire bilingual ppl b/c 95% of the rest of the workers spoke spanish. These were just warehouse rats. I couldnt believe that ppl needed to know spanish just to make $7.50 h/r

The daily announcements were all made in spanish and sometimes in english if they remembered to.  I thought my ass was working in Cuba for a while.
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