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The constitution is a charter of negative liberties?
« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2008, 10:27:00 AM »
The system has enough checks and balances as it is. Even if the public elects a terrible candidate...  Even if they elect this person twice... ya know, hypothetically... Life goes on..
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« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2008, 02:27:40 PM »
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so that would work against them

I agree with Vid, there should be a test to vote.  Know your candidates policies instead of just voting for the black guy.



Listen to how silly you sound....i guess the white folks that are voting for him are only doing it because he\'s black as well right? Even tho most blacks vote democratic anyway? I thought we already had this discussion....what do you say to all of those black voters that voted for those other white candidates of years past?....nothing right? since they are all white, you don\'t have a problem with blacks voting for them, but because there\'s a black candidate, all of a sudden all blacks are going to vote for him regardless of his policies.   :rolleyes:


A test to vote? That\'s plain dumb...if you\'re a citizen you should be allowed to vote, end of story.... all of these rules and regulations and requirements that some are proposing are absolutely idiotic. Seems like some are tryin\' to enforce their own campaign to deter legit voters...i do believe you should at least know the candidate of your choice policies, but i don\'t think you should be penalized for not knowing his policies and voting for other reasons.

Sheesh,.. some of those older ignorant white folks need to know McCain\'s policies instead of just votin\' for the "white" guy.
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« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2008, 02:32:07 PM »
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Even tho most blacks vote democratic anyway?

And why is that?  Free stuff.  

I have nothing against Obama personally, it\'s his policies, and the policies of most democrats that angers me.

hey clips, lets just let babies vote!  they\'re US citizens!

I just don\'t understand the obsession with the guy.  If McCain somehow won, your telling me all these blacks who threw their support behind Obama wouldn\'t riot?  They would... until it comes time for them to pickup their welfare checks.

I know it sounds ignorant and racist, but its the truth, and the truth doesn\'t see colors.

I have many black friends, and I choose not to bring politics into the conversation at the risk of offending them for not supporting Obama.
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« Reply #93 on: November 03, 2008, 02:48:03 PM »
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And why is that?  Free stuff.  

I have nothing against Obama personally, it\'s his policies, and the policies of most democrats that angers me.

hey clips, lets just let babies vote!  they\'re US citizens!



Let me know what\'s being handed out for free. And if you don\'t like his policies, i can roll with that...but stop with the blacks is only votin\' for him because he\'s black argument,...yes some are, but there some white folks are votin\' for McCain for the very same reason. I\'ve stated before i consider myself a dem, but i supported bush last election, regardless of sharpton and that other afri. american bein there. I\'ll vote for the person that has policies that implements the best common sense strategies for our country,....and not the kind that we\'ve seen from our current president.
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« Reply #94 on: November 03, 2008, 02:50:01 PM »
lol..classic bigot.....

*makes racist comment*
*follows up with I have many black friends/co-workers/whatever in-laws*
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« Reply #95 on: November 03, 2008, 03:09:32 PM »
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I just don\'t understand the obsession with the guy. If McCain somehow won, your telling me all these blacks who threw their support behind Obama wouldn\'t riot? They would... until it comes time for them to pickup their welfare checks.

I know it sounds ignorant and racist, but its the truth, and the truth doesn\'t see colors.

I have many black friends, and I choose not to bring politics into the conversation at the risk of offending them for not supporting Obama.



Why would they riot? because obama didn\'t win? I don\'t think they would...life would go on....myself personally i don\'t have a problem with McCain...i don\'t agree with some of his policies, but if he won i would just accept it, and i actually like McCain,...he does sincerly seems like he cares about the country,..Palin on the other hand is extremely annoying and fake....i hope she dissappears after this election if she and McCain doesn\'t win.

And i can see why your black friends would be offended, if you\'re going around sayin\' blacks are only votin\' for him because he\'s black, they have a right to be pissed....blacks came out and voted for clinton in record numbers and he was white, but nobody had anything to say about that when blacks folks voted for him, again because most blacks vote democratic anyway....

Tell your black friends that you disagree with obama\'s policies and i\'m sure they won\'t have an issue with you....i haven\'t had an issue with you until you\'ve mentioned the race factor, if we\'re ever gonna get over that racial hump, just stop lookin\' at color and focus on his policies...
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« Reply #96 on: November 03, 2008, 04:29:26 PM »
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Let me know what\'s being handed out for free.


How about tax cuts for people who don\'t pay taxes.  That\'s called a tax credit, which is a form of welfare, which is a hand out.

There, that wasn\'t very hard.
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« Reply #97 on: November 03, 2008, 04:30:45 PM »
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Tell your black friends that you disagree with obama\'s policies and i\'m sure they won\'t have an issue with you....i haven\'t had an issue with you until you\'ve mentioned the race factor, if we\'re ever gonna get over that racial hump, just stop lookin\' at color and focus on his policies...


I asked them to list Obama\'s accomplishments and they changed the subject.
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« Reply #98 on: November 03, 2008, 04:31:45 PM »
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lol..classic bigot.....

*makes racist comment*
*follows up with I have many black friends/co-workers/whatever in-laws*


right, I\'m just a bitter racist American clinging to my bible and gun, where have I heard that before?
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« Reply #99 on: November 04, 2008, 06:07:59 AM »
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How about tax cuts for people who don\'t pay taxes. That\'s called a tax credit, which is a form of welfare, which is a hand out.

There, that wasn\'t very hard.


Sometimes you gotta look at the overall greater good it\'s doing...it\'s helping out middleclass families,...some of those folks will recieve a check, it\'s hard to determine who\'s abusing the system and who truly needs it. We\'re borrowing 10 billion a month in iraq for an unjust war, and we give a generous amount of cash to third world countries all over the world, i guess it\'s unamerican to help out your own tho. So what some are going to get some extra cash, that doesn\'t mean all of a sudden you\'re going to see them at those expensive country clubs and all exlcusive resorts,...:D.. relax...those folks will still remain lazy and poor, you have nothing to worry about.



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I asked them to list Obama\'s accomplishments and they changed the subject.



Well they need to do some homework, Obama has some accomplishments but he hasn\'t been in the senate that long to beef up his resume....it doesn\'t matter if he doesn\'t have a long list...what matters is how he\'ll get the country back on track, and while you may not agree with it, an incredible amount of other people think otherwise...we\'ve had folks in the presidency with experience and the country is still stinkin\' up tha joint...it\'s time for something new.



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right, I\'m just a bitter racist American clinging to my bible and gun, where have I heard that before?


I don\'t think you\'re racist, but i don\'t like the argument of black folks votin\' for him because he\'s black, when past elections have proved otherwise,..by you saying that, you have some inner racial overtones that you need to deal with.


And Obama was telling the truth in a sense..in regards to those up in that particular part of PA....you\'ll find those folks that have the intelligence capacity of a doorknob, that\'ll say stuff like.."this is the united states of america and we\'re not gonna let those immigrants or blacks take over..yee-haw...bang bang"....that\'s a wee bit exaggeration, but you get the point.
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