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« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2001, 08:23:13 AM »
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I\'m afraid so...

It\'ll be interesting to see if Sony\'s "god-like" marketing can sell this flop-in-the-making.  If Sony think they can sell a $150 HDD/Network Adapter and a $320 PS2 GT3 bundle alongside two NEWER and MORE POWERFUL next gen consoles, they really are a bunch of arrogant bastards.


I dunno. . .  I have a PS2 already, do I want to spend 299 on xbox, or 150 for hdd?  Or, do I even care about hdd right now?  no.  So. . . I\'ll keep my PS2 and wait for a proce drop on hdd.  Which will happen, as memory market prices go down all the time.

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« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2001, 08:27:47 AM »
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I\'ll keep my PS2 and wait for a proce drop on hdd.  Which will happen, as memory market prices go down all the time.


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« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2001, 12:42:12 PM »
I really don\'t expect this thing to go for 150 here.  Like someone else said, I bought a 30GB 7200rpm HD for my computer and paid WAY less than 150 bucks.

Also, as someone above also stated, in Japan, they pay outrageous prices to begin with.  Expect this puppy to launch at $100, max.  Especially by the time it comes out, 40GB of HD space will be much smaller than it seemed back when this thing was first announced.
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« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2001, 01:01:19 PM »
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I don\'t know the access times, but the $150 is for the 40GIG drive and the ethernet/modem. That\'s not bad.

As far as a fast drive.... You got peeps going into damn convulsions over the $150, could you imagine if it was a scuzzy drive?!?! It\'d cost at least twice as much.... but it\'d be F>A>S>T!!!:)
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« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2001, 01:06:20 PM »
Geez, talk about misinformation!!

The $150 price includes the broadband adapter.  It seems the Japanese market is not getting a BBA/modem hybrid, it is just a BB adapter judging from the pictures (since they only show an ethernet port).  The hybrid BBA/modem was shown at E3 so it\'s probably only for the North American market (maybe UK) where dial-up connection are much more entrenched.

Therefore, the harddrive itself is really only $100 if you factor in the $49.99 price the adapter was announced at.

You DO NOT need the HDD for most of the online games.  Tony Hawk, Twisted Metal, and most of the ones announced at E3 do not require the harddrive.  Therefore the success of the HDD really has nothing to do with general online gaming on the PS2.

However, MMORPG games such as FFXI (if it turns out to be a MMORPG and not level-based like Phantasy Star) will probably require the harddrive just because of dynamic online updating and stuff like that.

There\'s also a list of games circulating that will support the harddrive.  Most of them are games that will only ever be released in Japan at the moment, and most simply use it to decrease load times -- like FFX -- but there are a few train simulation games on the list that will allow new trains and stuff to be downloaded for use in the game.

To summarize:

The $150 bundle includes the ethernet adapter.

You do not need to the HDD to play most online games.

In the US the BBA/modem hybrid and the HDD will be available separately.  Whether there will be a bundle deal in the US has not been announced yet as far as I know.

There are games in the pipe now that will support the HDD upon their release, though none require it at this time.  This may change with MMORPG online games though, since they may require the HDD.

Some developers have noted that it is extremely simple to add support for the HDD to act as a cache and therefore reduce or eliminate load times.  The up point for the developers here is that they can market the game as supporting the HDD (though not requiring it) with very little effor on their part.

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« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2001, 02:23:26 PM »
That pretty much sucks. But I have a high-paying job, say I don\'t think that will matter. I wonder why they decided to make it so expensive. Why? WHY? WHY!?! I guess I\'m going to have to buy it anyway...:(

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« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2001, 02:32:15 PM »
40 gig hard drive prices:

$359__10000 RPM
$279___7200 RPM
$249___7200 RPM
$239___7200 RPM
$224___7200 RPM (ebay)
$174___5400 RPM
$169___7200 RPM
$155___5400 RPM
$150___7200 RPM
$150_________________PS2 HDD
$144___7200 RPM
$132___7200 RPM (ebay)
$130___7200 RPM
$073___5400 RPM (ebay)
$050___5400 RPM (ebay)
(I just jumped around to see what the prices were.)

EDIT:  For convenience, I\'ll add other people\'s finds to this list.

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« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2001, 09:17:12 PM »
You can get a 40GB 7200 ATA-100 for $130 at BestBuy and Circuit City.
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« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2001, 05:39:59 AM »
On pricewatch 40GB drives start at $78 and an IBM 40GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 at $107.  These prices are not even bulk prices which I am sure Sony would be able to get direct from the manufacturer.

Onto a question though will heat become an issue with internal drives with the original US PS2\'s or any PS2 for that matter?  I mean my regular 5200 drive gets pretty warm in my ventilated computer case, but what will happen in the tight fit of the PS2?  Will these drives tend to fail a lot faster?  Will they come with a 3 year warranty like PC drives do?  If they only come with a 90 Day count me out.  Heat and Hard Drives do not mix very well!
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« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2001, 06:20:49 AM »
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Onto a question though will heat become an issue with internal drives with the original US PS2\'s or any PS2 for that matter?  I mean my regular 5200 drive gets pretty warm in my ventilated computer case, but what will happen in the tight fit of the PS2?  Will these drives tend to fail a lot faster?  Will they come with a 3 year warranty like PC drives do?  If they only come with a 90 Day count me out.  Heat and Hard Drives do not mix very well! [/B]


They might be expensive when they come out, but i\'m sure they will fall in the $65-70 range eventually,
as for failing, there is always an option of buying a new one. Warranty? yep, 90 days. :D

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« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2001, 07:05:29 AM »
the 150$ price would make it very hard for sony to sell it, sure, buying it in mass would help prices, but inorder for this to do well it will have to be cheap, sony will have to take the losses,

the hardcore guys will buy it no matter what, but the casuals, well wont be willing to spend 100-150 for a peice of harware...
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« Reply #56 on: July 07, 2001, 07:59:46 PM »
that price really isn\'t alot. i mean if you have a full time job. 40 gigs isn\'t cheap these days...

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« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2001, 11:26:33 AM »
MOst HDD manufacturers have lifetime or very long warranties on their drives.  If Sony refused to replace your HD, you most likely could get a replacement from the manufacturer.
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« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2001, 06:51:20 PM »
What I\'m wondering is if you could take a PC IDE HDD and plug it into the PS2.  The pics I\'ve seen of the PS2 internal HDD looked just like a normal IDE, so maybe it will be possible.  You would have to get the software for it some how, but I\'m sure that wouldn\'t be too hard.

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« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2001, 06:53:55 PM »
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What I\'m wondering is if you could take a PC IDE HDD and plug it into the PS2.  The pics I\'ve seen of the PS2 internal HDD looked just like a normal IDE, so maybe it will be possible.  You would have to get the software for it some how, but I\'m sure that wouldn\'t be too hard.

I\'m absolutely sure that there could be 3rd party, or at least "illegal" parties involved in getting us cheaper, PC-based Hard Drive.  It\'ll take time though.  Time.

 

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