New Insight on MGSX!!!!!!!!

In the latest issue of EGM there was a quote at the top of the page and I don\'t have the issue with me right now, but it said something along the lines that Hideo Kojima was only able to realize 20% of what he wanted to do with MGS2 on the PS2 (likely because of hardware/time/money limitations). Where\'s the other 80%? Well, we already know that MGSX is "beyond" MGS2 so there\'s a great possibility that MGSX is 80% more than the PS2 version. Microsoft may have or probably will provide Kojima with more $$$ to include what he wants to include. You know, stuff like when the light shines on you the guards spot you like Kojima originally wanted to do. However, when they ran the algorithm, the game slowed down severly to the point where it was unplayable. Since Xbox has a seperate graphics unit, the CPU can be fully devoted to this complex algorithm.

Hell, if MGSX is indeed the other 80% of the game, then that is reason enough to buy both the PS2 and Xbox versions or skip the PS2 version altogether. This also may prove why Hideo is so mum about MGSX. He knows that if people found out that the Xbox version is the more complete version, then they may skip out on the PS2 version altoghether and that could seriously hit Konami\'s pocketbook. I do believe that there is a strong possibility that MGSX is the version Kojima himself had in mind when he came up with the concept. However, he can\'t say anything about it because it could hamper sales of the PS2 (incomplete) version.

Note: The EGM quote can be found in the MGS2 "Press Start" feature at the top of one of the pages.

It is indeed possible, DirectXbox... But I\'m not getting my hopes up.

dont listen to him i got the issue right now, it says before they actually started on the game they thought the had the whole story of the game built together but they ended up only having 20%, nothing about xbox, the only thing hideo said about xbox was- no comment, so make sure u know what your saying.

Read my post again, dildo, I didn\'t say that they were going to have 80% more for the Xbox.  I was just SPECULATING based on the quote in EGM.  Some of you need to learn reading comprehension.  I said nothing about EGM saying that MGSX would have 80% more...I\'m just saying that maybe that\'s what "beyond MGS2" means.

Originally posted by SLIMSHADY739
dont listen to him i got the issue right now, it says before they actually started on the game they thought the had the whole story of the game built together but they ended up only having 20%, nothing about xbox, the only thing hideo said about xbox was- no comment, so make sure u know what your saying.

DX never implied that he said anything about the Xbox, he said that the other 80% that Kojima wanted to put into MGS2 could be done on Xbox. Let me quote what he said...

[Metal Gear Solid 2] is definitely going in the right direction, but when we started planning the game, way before we got the tools for the PS2, we had all these ideas we wanted to implement. What we were able to realize in this game is only about 20 percent of what we initially came up with. - Hideo Kojima

Originally posted by DirectXbox
Read my post again, dildo, I didn\'t say that they were going to have 80% more for the Xbox.  I was just SPECULATING based on the quote in EGM.  Some of you need to learn reading comprehension.  I said nothing about EGM saying that MGSX would have 80% more...I\'m just saying that maybe that\'s what "beyond MGS2" means.

Well, those MS employees could be talking some major bull****. We don\'t know what is going on. Frankly, all the info that is out there now is 100 percent FAKE, unless it comes from the mouth of HIDEO KOJIMA-SAN himself. So far, he hasn\'t said ONE WORD about MGSX, sure he offers a  no comment, and in a recent interview i read, he said that he only has plans for MGS2 on PS2, he said nothing about an Xbox version, and don\'t worry, this saga is FAR from being over. Bah, i feel like  a fanboy today. Long Live XBOX:D

Originally posted by DaRkGaMeR
Well, those MS employees could be talking some major bull****.

... Hes not talking about any MS employees! Read people!

We don\'t know what is going on. Frankly, all the info that is out there now is 100 percent FAKE, unless it comes from the mouth of HIDEO KOJIMA-SAN himself. So far, he hasn\'t said ONE WORD about MGSX

... Heh.

http://xbox.ign.com/news/33234.html

"You will definitely get better graphics with Xbox. With PlayStation 2, we had to create our own shadows with the software. With Xbox, the machine creates it for us, so we can use that little extra power for effects and stuff. So the Xbox version will probably look a little bit better."-Hideo Kojima

... "Xbox version"...

Thank you, GunDam for shutting them up.  Fanboys tend to get offended easily and like to jump to conclusions that aren\'t even there.

Originally posted by DirectXbox
Thank you, GunDam for shutting them up.  Fanboys tend to get offended easily and like to jump to conclusions that aren\'t even there.

Oh and you\'re not jumping into conclusions are you? :rolleyes:

Welcome, DX.

Originally posted by ViVi


Oh and you\'re not jumping into conclusions are you? :rolleyes:

Hes not. Hes speculating, not claiming that the Xbox version of MGS2 will help realize Kojima\'s vision of MGS2 that he originally had.

Oh, and your avatar isn\'t working... I can upload the picture for you if you want.

Originally posted by ViVi


Oh and you\'re not jumping into conclusions are you? :rolleyes:

*lol*

Exacly!

Originally posted by fastson


*lol*

Exacly!

-_-; See above.

Bah, i was never implying that. I am not a damn sony fanboy if you think i am Nu and also DirectX, man i am as eagar about xbox as you are. Jeez, your implying that i am a sony fanboy posing as a Xbox fan? Bah, 300 dollars for an Xbox is not that much, and i personally can\'t wait until Nov 8th. Its going to be a sweet day for us gamers. So, Nu Gundam, and DXB, sorry if i made myself sound like a fanboy. and Nu, you brought alot of info to my attention. Thanks alot:)



EDIT: Look at my last line on my first post. I said Long Live Xbox:D

Bah, i own a PS2 and plan on getting the other 2 systems some time down the road, does that make me a fanboy????


Also, DirectXbox, do you have a way i can contact you, i have a couple of PS2 fanboy friends that need to be shut up, and i figure you can give me some VALID info that will shut them up. I have AIM, ICQ or MSN, which do you have?

Originally posted by DirectXbox
In the latest issue of EGM there was a quote at the top of the page and I don\'t have the issue with me right now, but it said something along the lines that Hideo Kojima was only able to realize 20% of what he wanted to do with MGS2 on the PS2 (likely because of hardware/time/money limitations). Where\'s the other 80%? Well, we already know that MGSX is "beyond" MGS2 so there\'s a great possibility that MGSX is 80% more than the PS2 version. Microsoft may have or probably will provide Kojima with more $$$ to include what he wants to include. You know, stuff like when the light shines on you the guards spot you like Kojima originally wanted to do. However, when they ran the algorithm, the game slowed down severly to the point where it was unplayable. Since Xbox has a seperate graphics unit, the CPU can be fully devoted to this complex algorithm.

Hell, if MGSX is indeed the other 80% of the game, then that is reason enough to buy both the PS2 and Xbox versions or skip the PS2 version altogether. This also may prove why Hideo is so mum about MGSX. He knows that if people found out that the Xbox version is the more complete version, then they may skip out on the PS2 version altoghether and that could seriously hit Konami\'s pocketbook. I do believe that there is a strong possibility that MGSX is the version Kojima himself had in mind when he came up with the concept. However, he can\'t say anything about it because it could hamper sales of the PS2 (incomplete) version.

Note: The EGM quote can be found in the MGS2 "Press Start" feature at the top of one of the pages.

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Man you XBox fanboys crack me up.

AHAHAHA

DirectX, I think you\'re kinda jumping to conclusions. Mr. Kojima said somthing similar after MGS was finished. The man is, for lack of a better word, over-ambitious. And I can\'t wait to see what he can do on a system 2 or three generations from now. But for now, let\'s enjoy MGS2. And your port.