PS2 #1, but who will be #2?

Originally posted by JediMaster
Sony took the shoulder buttons and doubled the amount of them, they took Nintendo\'s Analog stick and doubled the amount of those. Thats just what they took off. No bit deal. And I don\'t want to get into an arguemnt about it.

Oh!  I would say that those were much needed improvements, not rip-offs.  But an evolution in game controllers.  Saying that it\'s a rip-off is like saying sega ripped off the cartidge idea from nintendo.

The controller doesn\'t have any innovation,

Like the PSX2 controller does. Do you have any Idea how Sony came up with the basic design of the controller, they got it from Nintendo. Then Sony put\'s analog sticks on the controller, why: cause Nintendo did first. You accuse MS of taking there idea from others, did you forget sony did the same. Nintendo must feel flattered cause in the past of anyone deserved the title of innovation it would be nintendo

Have they helped the industry of video gaming yet? They might down the road but not yet. The controller doesn\'t

Yeah that\'s real fair saying that MS should be kicked out of the gamming business, cause they have not helped the industry yet. Well give them a chance first you idiot.
Second how has sony helped developers?? from what the developers are saying is that MS so far has proven to be the most helpful whenever any of the studio are having problems, alot more than sony. Sony only cares about there in house and close tie dev like SQUARE, polymere(or whatever) naughty dog.

And is Microsoft paying developers, yes they are. They are using money to lure developers to their system.

Ok you have truly proven that your are the stupidest person on this board, IQ of 150 my ass.  MS is paying developers just like SONY does moron. Damn you don\'t know **** about the gamming world, if you did, you wouldn\'t have said that. It\'s business nothing more, MS and SONY knows this and will do whatever it takes to get developers on there side.

Yes, everyone is in it to make money. Many other PC companies who make software and other big companies in the PC industry say that MS really screwed up the computer generation. They say we could have had the Internet in \'85 if it wasn\'t for MS.

Yeah I see you’re an anti-Microsoft vigilante, and a BIG TIME SONY FANBOY, no doubt about that. Oh and what a pile of BS saying MS screwed the pc industry. MS help it grow to what it is today, if it wasn\'t for BILL gates the internet wouldn\'t be nearly what it is today, everyone played a part in the computer revolution and the internet, but MS had big part in there, don\'t ever forget that. Yeah leave it to STEVE JOBS!!!no way man. All people do is look at the negitive aspects of bill gates and his company and forget about all the good things he has done. Also I don\'t see sony donating billions of dollars to starving kids, and donating computers to schools to help childern learn. All that money Bill donated came right out of his pocket. What has sony done, besides give us  cheap, poor quality audio and electronic products. They only make good TV\'s and cams.

I just don\'t want them to screw up the console industry. MS never said anything about No patches for XBox games so we will wait and see.

Ok now you are getting to be real annoying, YOU SIR know absolutely **** about the gaming WORLD. MS said no patches period. If patches were allowed then HALO would be online, which it will no longer be. Why don\'t you go back to the IGN forums, cause you sound just like the people over there.

The best thing that it could give the XBox would be updates for the NvidiaNV25 (I can\'t remember the exact name of the chip ). Nvidia has always been increasing performance with their detonator drivers so I\'m pretty sure they will have some upgrade for it.

How many times do I have to say this XBOX is not a PC. It\'s a fixed platform, there will be no need for driver updates.

I just don\'t want them to screw up the console industry.

Yeah that\'s really going to happen junior.

So please don\'t bother to respond, cause I will not post back as I have waisted enough of my free time.

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing


Like the PSX2 controller does. Do you have any Idea how Sony came up with the basic design of the controller, they got it from Nintendo. Then Sony put\'s analog sticks on the controller, why: cause Nintendo did first. You accuse MS of taking there idea from others, did you forget sony did the same. Nintendo must feel flattered cause in the past of anyone deserved the title of innovation it would be nintendo

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So please don\'t bother to respond, cause I will not post back as I have waisted enough of my free time.

Well just step on my toes!  As stated in the post just before yours (I\'m giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were typing yours whilst I was typing mine).  I think that the design has to be based on something, and then made better.  That\'s how we get so many different consoles to compete with in the first place!  

The innovation belongs to SONY, they did what Nintendo hadn\'t thought of.

I don\'t know why I\'m bothering a rebuttal.  From the sound of your post, I wouldn\'t want you to waste your time reading other people\'s opinions!

The innovation belongs to SONY, they did what Nintendo hadn\'t thought of.

than with that notion, the innovation belongs to MS or whom ever makes a controller. Also what did sony do that Nintendo didn\'t think of?????

From the sound of your post, I wouldn\'t want you to waste your time reading other people\'s opinions!

That makes no sense you probably ment to say this

"I wouldn\'t want you to waste your time making you reading other people\'s opinions, such as mine"

There, that makes sense, oh and yes I probably was typing my post while you posted

The graphics are nice, but I just can\'t see many people going crazy over it. I guess I\'ll come back to this when the game actually comes out. Then we\'ll see who\'s right.

A lot of people will buy games just judging on graphics. Example: Bouncer.

But we will see this fall. Though I doubt I\'m wrong.

I have read numerous reports on the game. Sure they have thrown in a few new elements. But when it\'s all set and done, it\'s RE with different time periods and overrated fog.

Please, it\'s obvious you have no clue what your talking about. Of course the games features RE elements, but it perfects them and has major differences in gameplay and story that seperate the two games. Just read this preview.

http://nintensity.com/previews/eternaldarkness.html

Calling it a clone is simply idiotic.

Now who\'s making assumptions? I just love hypocrisy.

I knew you would say something like that but I was prepared for it when I wrote it.

The truth is, it would seriously damage Nintendo\'s reputation for releasing an only descent Metroid game. Nintendo and Miyamoto simply won\'t release the game until it\'s up to his standards. You want examples of this? Mario 64 and Zelda:OOT, two acclaimed games which were both delayed quite a few times. If Mario or Zelda was only descent, then people would start to lose faith in Nintendo. The same applies to Metroid, it is a very recognizable and important franchise for Nintendo too.

Call that an assumption if you please, but atleast it\'s an educated one, unlike yours.

Of course people lined up to play it. It was the closest thing to a Mario game at the show. But the fact still remains that many people have been saying that it gets really repetative real fast.

Many people also said the game was fun and addictive, so I guess that evens it out in the end.

I know enough about the Gcubes games to know that I won\'t be missing much. Maybe you should apply some of that criticism onto yourself, and don\'t make assumptions

LOL. There is a major difference between an assumption, and an educated or informed assumption.

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing


han with that said the innovation belongs to MS or whom ever makes a controller. Also what did sony do that Nintendo didn\'t think of?????



No, just yours!!! two can play at this game LMAO!

Hardy har har!

Um, by doubling the number of shoulder buttons and anologue sticks.  Shaping it to better conform to one\'s hands.  Having two independent points for vibration.  (A lot of doubling and 2\'s).  <- That\'s what Nintendo didn\'t think of.  Oh, and pressure sensitive buttons.

And yes, the innovative title does move to future improvements of the controller.

The truth is, it would seriously damage Nintendo\'s reputation for releasing an only descent Metroid game. Nintendo and Miyamoto simply won\'t release the game until it\'s up to his standards. You want examples of this? Mario 64 and Zelda:OOT, two acclaimed games which were both delayed quite a few times. If Mario or Zelda was only descent, then people would start to lose faith in Nintendo. The same applies to Metroid, it is a very recognizable and important franchise for Nintendo too

So TRUE! what is that famous quote that Miyamoto said?

Hey  Troglodyte, you quoted me before I was finished that post, go back and read it again.

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing


So TRUE! what is that famous quote that Miyamoto said?

Be more specific. He says a lot of things.

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Hey  Troglodyte, you quoted me before I was finished that post, go back and read it again.

Yep, a little better, my sentence was fragmented, wasn\'t it!  But I think I like your original post better!

So, now I\'m confused, where do we stand on this subject?  Did we agree yet?

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing

Like the PSX2 controller does. Do you have any Idea how Sony came up with the basic design of the controller, they got it from Nintendo. Then Sony put\'s analog sticks on the controller, why: cause Nintendo did first. You accuse MS of taking there idea from others, did you forget sony did the same. Nintendo must feel flattered cause in the past of anyone deserved the title of innovation it would be nintendo

Yes Nintendo started it all. Accaully The days of Atari were the starting points but Nintendo added a lot of innovation in the NES and SNES days.

Yeah that\'s real fair saying that MS should be kicked out of the gamming business, cause they have not helped the industry yet. Well give them a chance first you idiot.
Second how has sony helped developers?? from what the developers are saying is that MS so far has proven to be the most helpful whenever any of the studio are having problems, alot more than sony. Sony only cares about there in house and close tie dev like SQUARE, polymere(or whatever) naughty dog.

Yeah I said that they hadden\'t contributed yet. In giving new innovations in the controller yet.

Ok you have truly proven that your are the stupidest person on this board, IQ of 150 my ass.  MS is paying developers just like SONY does moron. Damn you don\'t know **** about the gamming world, if you did, you wouldn\'t have said that. It\'s business nothing more, MS and SONY knows this and will do whatever it takes to get developers on there side.

I\'ll give you 2 blasted links here.

Blasted Link No. 1

Blasted Link No.2

Yeah I see you’re an anti-Microsoft vigilante, and a BIG TIME SONY FANBOY, no doubt about that. Oh and what a pile of BS saying MS screwed the pc industry. MS help it grow to what it is today, if it wasn\'t for BILL gates the internet wouldn\'t be nearly what it is today, everyone played a part in the computer revolution and the internet, but MS had big part in there, don\'t ever forget that. Yeah leave it to STEVE JOBS!!!no way man. All people do is look at the negitive aspects of bill gates and his company and forget about all the good things he has done. Also I don\'t see sony donating billions of dollars to starving kids, and donating computers to schools to help childern learn. All that money Bill donated came right out of his pocket. What has sony done, besides give us  cheap, poor quality audio and electronic products. They only make good TV\'s and cams.

If I am anything I am a Nintendo Loyalist. I\'m hardly a Sony fanboy dumbass, look at my signature. I should know about all the PC industry. The drag and drop, cut and paste on it was developed by my cousin for Microsoft. He retired in \'95 because MS was becomming a pain to work for so he retired. I can prove all this to you too. If you have a computer with Win 95. Go to caculator, then help, then about calculator, it says that it was developed for MS by Kraig Brockschmidt. Who is my cousin, not second cousin or anything but a 1st cousin. The reason he got that was because he was only 18 when he made the calculator and he wasn\'t working for MS yet so they had to insert that in there because he didn\'t develop it when he was emplyod. I bet you won\'t belive me but Its the truth, regardless of what you think. If there anyone who knows about MS, its him. And hes told me and he is sure as heck smarter then both of us.

Ok Mr,now you are getting to be real annoying, YOU SIR know absolutely **** about the gaming WORLD. MS said no patches period. If patches were allowed then HALO would be online, which it will no longer be. Why don\'t you go back to the IGN forums, cause you sound just like the people over there.

I don\'t come from the IGN boards. I come from somewhere that is medium populated but enough to keep the XBox fans out and there are only 2 other Sony fans there and many smart Nintendo fans there ok.

How many times do I have to say this XBOX is not a PC. It\'s a fixed platform, there will be no need for driver updates.

Driver updates would improve the XBox\'s framerate dramatically. The detonator drivers improve my Geforce 2 significantly.

So please don\'t bother to respond, cause I will not post back as I have waisted enough of my free time.

I have t respond to BS when I see it, expessially when its directed at me.

Man nobody is never goint to get anywhere in this thread. Everyone is just going to keep quoting everyone and debating what you say over and over. Because some ppl feels so strongly about ps2 being number one and killing everything like sony is their daddy. Or Your like me hell of defending the underdawg XboX because it has a shot at being the best.  Or your a die hard nintendo fanatic who thinks nintendo is the best and the whole world should too.

EDIT: In anycase I have come to understand that we all like different things about each console and we may feel strongly about one perticular one and where just going to have to respect that. Because nobodys mind is going to be change and this topic has been brought up so many....many times. I say until each console hits where just going to rack are brains trying to debate one another on this subject.

Intersting, I actally believe you that your cousin did work for MS.


One more thing what does thos blasted links have to do with anything, we already know that in a way MS has payed for some of GC games.

Originally posted by XBOX
Man nobody is never goint to get anywhere in this thread. Everyone is just going to keep quoting everyone and debating what you say over and over. Because some ppl feels so strongly about ps2 being number one and killing everything like sony is their daddy. Or Your like me hell of defending the underdawg XboX because it has a shot at being the best.  Or your a die hard nintendo fanatic who thinks nintendo is the best and the whole world should too.

Not true, if you read all the posts carefully you notice that slowly these people (including me) are being enlightened and slowly coming to an agreement, (although at the moment I\'m a little confused).  Just give us time.  It all takes time.

XBox, thats the smartest posts from an XBox fan I\'ve seen all night. It really is.