We are animals just like every one else on this planet!

[Jumpman]

And it prefers it in the butt.

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Fact.
PS3 is over priced.
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But what about God?

If you want the facts about God, you\'ll have to kill yourself.

[Titan]

y\'know there\'s a scripture in the bible that talks about the earth being a sphere,...and god stating something along the lines of i have set the earth on nothing.*nothing meaning the universe*..i gotta do the research, but the point bein is that back then how could have anybody known that the earth was round? back then there was an issue of the world bein flat, yet the bible disputed that waaay back then and yet who do give the fame and glamour to? christopher columbus...i\'ll find that scripture, cause no-matter what version of the bible you may have, they should all say the same thing or be very similar at the very least...

Actually, back then, most sailors knew the earth was round because you can see the curvature of the earth. Anyone that was in the open ocean knew the earth was round. They didn\'t know how big. That myth about Columbus is just that, a myth. He knew it was round and so did his crew. There are a lot of myths about Columbus and the majority aren\'t true.

EDIT: and the bible says the earth is flat. I can find a website with that but I\'m hungry so I\'m gonna run out to White Castle. I\'ll revisit the flat/round earth thing when I get back and fully nourished and actually have pants on (that\'s right, I\'m not wearing pants right now (boxers)).

If you want the facts about God, you\'ll have to kill yourself.

No I dont have to

[clips]

Actually, back then, most sailors knew the earth was round because you can see the curvature of the earth. Anyone that was in the open ocean knew the earth was round. They didn\'t know how big. That myth about Columbus is just that, a myth. He knew it was round and so did his crew. There are a lot of myths about Columbus and the majority aren\'t true.

EDIT: and the bible says the earth is flat. I can find a website with that but I\'m hungry so I\'m gonna run out to White Castle. I\'ll revisit the flat/round earth thing when I get back and fully nourished and actually have pants on (that\'s right, I\'m not wearing pants right now (boxers)).

you do know the bible has been around longer than christopher and crew right? so there goes that theory...anyways... (Isaiah 40:22) states...there is one who is dwelling above the CIRCLE of the earth, the dwellers which are grasshoppers, the one who is strecthing out the heavens just as a fine gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell.

..(Job 26:7) states...and this refers to the earth being in space...."He is strecthing out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing"....

titan what are you talkin\' about?...clearly the scripture here states the earth is round...the bible itself is nearly 1600 -  2000 years old, waaay before chris\'s time,...alot of people was afraid to sail because if you looked into the distance on the ocean, it actually looked flat...i\'m sure there were other people thought the earth was round, but the point is is that the bible stated this waaay before any of them claimed it was round.....i\'ll be back to discuss this later on tonight, since i work nights, i live like a vampire during the day, or sleep like a vampire during the day...

[Titan]

you do know the bible has been around longer than christopher and crew right? so there goes that theory...anyways... (Isaiah 40:22) states...there is one who is dwelling above the CIRCLE of the earth, the dwellers which are grasshoppers, the one who is strecthing out the heavens just as a fine gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell.

..(Job 26:7) states...and this refers to the earth being in space...."He is strecthing out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing"....

titan what are you talkin\' about?...clearly the scripture here states the earth is round...the bible itself is nearly 1600 -  2000 years old, waaay before chris\'s time,...alot of people was afraid to sail because if you looked into the distance on the ocean, it actually looked flat...i\'m sure there were other people thought the earth was round, but the point is is that the bible stated this waaay before any of them claimed it was round.....i\'ll be back to discuss this later on tonight, since i work nights, i live like a vampire during the day, or sleep like a vampire during the day...

Ok, lets throw out Christopher Columbus. He wasn\'t part of my point. My piont was that anyone, ANYONE who sailed in open waters knew the earth was round because they saw the curvature of the earth. Man has been sailing before the bible was written. Any scholar and sailor knew the earth was round.

Go here. I hope this is a joke site (a few fellow atheists say it is a joke site making fun of fundies) but these are actual scripture that are on the site (hence why the dude is making fun of it, if it is a satirical site. If it is, it shows how the Bible can\'t even be taken as remote fact.).

some scripture quotes as said on the site

    1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

 

    Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”

 

    Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”

 

    Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

 

    Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”

     

    Isaiah 11:12: "And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."

[Titan]

Clips. I found another site for you based on teh Bible. This one is an actual educatoinal site and not a satirical site (although it quotes the exact scripture). I\'d read through the whole thing. I read parts of it but there is a part about Jesus being on top of the mountain and Satan showing all the kingdoms of the world which suggests a flat earth. It goes more in-depth. An interesting read.

http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/febible.htm

[Evi]

This one is an actual educatoinal site and not a satirical site (although it quotes the exact scripture).

If it\'s in English, it isn\'t "exact scripture".

Your flat earth thing is very stupid.


"Even the Devil can quote scripture to suit his purposes." - William Shakespeare

I read parts of it but there is a part about Jesus being on top of the mountain and Satan showing all the kingdoms of the world which suggests a flat earth

I\'m surprised there is people who think this scripture proves that the bible writers thought the earth was flat.  

Some people,  lol.  Reminds me of the scientists who say the Red Sea was split by a chance earthquake,  or the professor who said Jesus was able to walk on water because a freak ice storm appeared suddenly in the sea of Galilee and froze the water..  Makes you wonder how Peter managed to sink

[Titan]

If it\'s in English, it isn\'t "exact scripture".

Your flat earth thing is very stupid.


"Even the Devil can quote scripture to suit his purposes." - William Shakespeare

Well yeah. People think too much into the scripture. They also forget its been translated a few times from the original hebrew and latin and some mistranslations happen. For example the Red Sea and the Reed Sea. Moses supposedly parted the Reed Sea which is a small sea. But think about it too. If you are being chased, isn\'t a big body of water like the Red Sea stupid to try and cross to get away? Even if it was parted, the chariots and such would catch up to you. Atleast at the Reed Sea (which is just above the red sea) its dry a lot of the time. Supposedly, it flooded as moses just got passed it. Anyway, I\'ll do some research and get back. This is just shit I learned in my high school history class.

EDIT: Nevermind. Wikipedia had a short blurb and said that it was the old name for the Red Sea (was translated as such but called Sea of Reeds). But still something to think about

[Titan]

I\'m surprised there is people who think this scripture proves that the bible writers thought the earth was flat.  

Some people,  lol.  Reminds me of the scientists who say the Red Sea was split by a chance earthquake,  or the professor who said Jesus was able to walk on water because a freak ice storm appeared suddenly in the sea of Galilee and froze the water..  Makes you wonder how John managed to sink

I have better explanations of the Red Sea parting or Jesus on water....they didn\'t fucking happen No historical evidence except for the bible which I hardly count as evidence. I dismiss the bible as evidence as fundies dismiss Origin of Species.

[Evi]

EDIT: Nevermind. Wikipedia had a short blurb and said that it was the old name for the Red Sea (was translated as such but called Sea of Reeds). But still something to think about

Something to think about? Yeah. You negated your entire post with the edit. :thumb:

I dismiss the bible as evidence as fundies dismiss Origin of Species.

Which is still a theory, regardless of what anyone believes. Nobody was there to witness how everything happened. It\'s just bits and pieces here and there of scientific findings with a bunch of extra theories and things thrown in to create some type of coherent explanation...and even then, there are still many holes in the theories, such as the asinine way that some scientists think how natural adaptation works in the evolution of species. An example I read in biology class was how giraffes evolved to have long necks. They said that the animals couldn\'t reach the leaves in the taller trees, so the animals had to adapt by growing longer necks over a long period of time. I suppose the same logic could be applied to a family trying to reach soda cans on the top of a fridge, but they can\'t. So over a long period of adaptation and changes, generations later of this particular family grew longer arms and were finally able to reach the soda cans on top of the fridge. Some of these theories are laughable when you think about them.

I\'m surprised there is people who think this scripture proves that the bible writers thought the earth was flat.  

Some people,  lol.  Reminds me of the scientists who say the Red Sea was split by a chance earthquake,  or the professor who said Jesus was able to walk on water because a freak ice storm appeared suddenly in the sea of Galilee and froze the water..  Makes you wonder how Peter managed to sink

I know I know....the ice broke under his feet

[clips]

instead of bouncin around to internet sites, why not just go to the source itself,..y\'know like i did...anybody can take scriptures out of the bible and put them on their site and twist their meaning around...i saw that one site about the earth bein flat,(titan) then i read those scriptures you posted, it doesn\'t suggest that the earth was flat at all,..it\'s just stating that the earth was immovable...