What\'s With the Grotesqueness of Twised Metal: Black?

I agree with lavan, especially about the upbringing of kids. I think hte endings are great and have every right to be in that game or any other dark themed game. thats why it is rated mature.
  Also on a rant about kids , guns, and being influenced by things. I notice how kids nowadays are taught that guns are dangerous, stay away from guns , guns hurt, guns kill  blah blah blah
In my opinion people are dangerous , people kill, ect.
A gun is just a tool.  My parents never had any but from a young age I went to hunter safety courses, and had an uncle who pounded gun safety into my head when hunting. I believe education is the key because if I was never allowed to handle a firearm at a young age then it (the gun) would have become that mystical thing that you cant wait to sneak out of the house and go play with. My point is when you tell kids no no no it just makes that thing all the more enticing, but if you show them perhaps they will have more respect for whatever they are dealing with.

Two quick points:

1)Kids are NOT idiots, they have free-thinking minds of their own and are capable of reasoning better than most adults.  They are new to this world, not made more close-minded by life.  I am one, i know.  Teenagers respectability gets so berated in today\'s life its sad.  Thats why everyone says "blame it on their entertainment!".  Adults don\'t understand, parents don\'t understand, so to make themselves secure they need to place blame.

2)Back in the early days of the cavemen they killed eachother if one took the others food.  Where was violent media then?  Its in our blood.  We are STILL animals.

Originally posted by Ghettomath
Two quick points:
2)Back in the early days of the cavemen they killed eachother if one took the others food.  Where was violent media then?  Its in our blood.  We are STILL animals.

I agree, IMO deep down each and everyone has the instinct for killing, lets not kid ourselves. If not for our bigger and more complicated brains, we would be covered in blood. (figure of speech.)  Our brains permit us to perceive morality, right from wrong. Genetics play a role I guess too, we are the most successful species on this planet, and we sure did not get here by being docile right?

Originally posted by SonyFan
Sorry, don\'t mean to spam, but I just read Bob\'s post.

"I think when a kid does something as wasteful and tragic as Columbine the parents should receive all the penatilites for whatever there child did." - Bob\'s Hardware.

Now wait.. you\'re going to punish the parents for the actions of their child? Hell, even the best parents in the world can have psycopathic kids. Why blame someone else for another\'s actions? Why not blame the kids who teased and tormented those bastards into their bleak corner of desperation.. and then blame the school system that wouldn\'t lift a finger to help them. For christ\'s sake.. the circle of blame could go on forever.. and until we start focusing on fixing the problem.. NOT THE BLAME.. we\'re going to get nowhere.

It\'s so much easier to point a finger, than lend a hand.

If you honestly think that society is going to lend a hand to help out, then that is part of a perfect world that you and I will never in a lifetime live to see.

Because Society is so insecure to actually fix their problems it is always going to need a scapegoat to blame it on. Hell there\'s nothing more I would love to do than agree with you Sony I would love to agree and say
"Lets all come together and fix the problems of the world"
But that\'s just wishful thinking in today\'s times.

I still say a parent should be blamed for what happens to there kid...you should be able to teach your child that no matter what happened to you at school that spraying the walls with your schoolmates blood is not the answer.

I\'ve been teased at school a lot, in fact I was made fun of so much that I couldn\'t even get to the point to go to it anymore. I\'m home schooled now...I was bugged for the simple reason of wearing black clothes constantly and portraying the image of a "goth" or whatever you like to call it. I\'m very anti-social in life now...I have a close nit group of friends that I keep near me and that’s all I need.

I don\'t fear kids my age...I just loath them for immaturity. I developed a phobia where I get extremely frightened to go out in public places and simply can\'t function.

But I don\'t blame the kids that assisted to turn me into a shut-in hermit, where as I need re-hab basically to return to public life. I also blame myself because I know its part me. But the thought of killing someone never ever came up once. I scrapped a lot with these kids...sometimes I won heavy and actually laid a bad hurt into some of them and other times I was beaten into the emergency room. But still I never would DREAM of killing someone.

In Columbine, the 2 boys had dozens of homemade explosives packed into their bedrooms and their parents never suspected a thing? What is that about? I\'m not asking you to agree with me. Just understand my point of view.

"I may not agree with what you write. But i\'ll defend until the day I die that you have the right to write it"

Thats a quote that I heard somewhere...and one I agree with fully.

PS: It\'s me CYpReSs...I noticed you quoted it as Bobs Hardware. I just don\'t want Bob getting into anything that he didn\'t start with

Well, I didn\'t care to read everyone\'s post. I can\'t believe anyone would complain about TM:B\'s dark nature. I, for one, love it. I\'m glad the game is the way it is, and I wish more games had darker and more \'effed up\' content.

The game is rated M. Those \'kids\' that you fear will go rape their sisters and murder their parents shouldn\'t be playing this game.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

So it\'s not just me!!!  Man, I was wondering about this topic but I was sure that I would get roasted if I mentioned it.  Those are some very disturbing movies.  I never even looked at the rating on the box, "M".  But I still thought that they were not suitable for children.  I haven\'t even completed the game yet so I know that there\'s more to come.

on a side note I just wanna say that I love TM:B and think its one of teh BEST PS2 games out today.


and it was pretty obvious the game was going to be dark.

It\'s not called Twisted Metal: Heavenly Edition

Sweet tooth doesn\'t really serve tasty ice cream and Cage doesn\'t really use his new hands for yard work.

Remember people, it is called Twisted Metal: BLACK for a reason.

[Evi]

Many people are misguided...

Many people are misguided...

I hope you mean with the intentions of your thread. We aren\'t here for \'the light.\'

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

Originally posted by datamage


I hope you mean with the intentions of your thread. We aren\'t here for \'the light.\'

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

That was VERY well said actually.

"Hell there\'s nothing more I would love to do than agree with you Sony I would love to agree and say
"Lets all come together and fix the problems of the world" But that\'s just wishful thinking in today\'s times." - Bob\'s Software.

I never said I expected it to happen. I never said that it would be easy, or even possible in todays society. But regardless of that fact, it\'s what Needs to be done. If we don\'t do that, then we\'ll get nowhere and you can expect the fight against violent media to go on for as long as there is violent media to fight against.

"But I don\'t blame the kids that assisted to turn me into a shut-in hermit, where as I need re-hab basically to return to public life. I also blame myself because I know its part me." - Bob\'s Software

I was like that too. I went to the Bowen center for Manic Depressive disorder, but quit after a few weeks. Payin 80 bucks a week so some jerkoff can blame all my problems on my father is insane. I do, however, blame those kids who helped screw my childhood up. They made the choice to pick on me.. they made the choice to revel in making me feel lower than **** everyday. THEM. I also should have been a stronger person, I\'ll admit that. But that\'s no reason to let those kids off the hook.

Thing is.. I actually turned into one of those kids later in my school years. I\'d pick on people and torment the hell out of them for my own pleasure. The difference is.. I always let them know that I was just kidding and often tried to be friends with them afterword to show there we\'re no hard feelings. I went the extra mile to make amends for my actions, rather than just blow it off and let my victim stew in the aftermath of my words and actions.

I can understand why those kids at Columbine did what they did. I would never think of doing it. I\'d rather commit suicide than kill another.. but that just me. Everyone\'s different, and we all respond to outside stimuli differently. These two murderes just had lower breaking points than I did.. and they chose to strike back and give their tormenters a taste of the pain they\'ve endured most of their lives. Why they chose to massacre at random is beyond me though. I would be a lot more simpathetic to them had they chose one or two specific targets.. but I guess that\'s what happens when your brain is scarred beyond rational though by longterm mental and emotional anguish.

"I may not agree with what you write. But i\'ll defend until the day I die that you have the right to write it" - Again.. Bob\'s Software.

It\'s "I may not always agree with what you have to say, but I\'ll defend with my life your right to say it." - Voltair I\'ve used that quote a few times as well.

BTW: Sorry bout that. Ya know I was just wonderin why Bob stole Cyp\'s pic.

[Evi]

It wasn\'t a spert from nowhere that the kids at Columbine killed so many people. In fact, they planned it for quite some time. They reprogrammed the game DOOM to look like the people at their school, and they even made the environment look like their school. They were really messed up and I\'m sorry for all of the people that got killed in tha tragedy. I know the game was supposed to have a "dark" nature. One of my friends thinks the movies are awesome...and he just got out of a mental hospital. He has gotten so much better and is a really nice guy now, but he has a grin full of pleasure when he watches the movies. I love he gameplay...and I know that it\'s supposed to be dark, but that doesn\'t make it  right at all. I think it\'s downright disgusting. I know little kids that hit each other and whatnot after playing these games. I even saw my little cousins beat the you know what out of each other after watching a stupid Power Rangers episode. A confused kid body-slammed his baby brother until he died after watching wrestling...and...well...it DOES affext people...not everyone, but it does. You don\'t need to think I\'m dumb because of what I think, but I feel so bad for the aching world that is in so much chaos and needs help. Don\'t get mad at me for this post either...it\'s just what I think...K? The world is gonna end in major destruction if this does\'t stop. Even Los Angeles (as bad as it is there) doesn\'t have enough cops, ambulances and firefighters to hold up to all of the chaos going down there...I\'m talking too much...I\'m very sorry...