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« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2001, 07:24:58 PM »
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"MS needs to cave on this, and since they\'ve been talking about this for quite a while with absolutely no headway, don\'t expect any big revelations to hit soon. "



Square themselves[sic] have stated that the game is going to "other systems".*fact*  I believe that is a big revelation in itself. [/B]


I don\'t think that\'s what Chrono was suggesting by revelation.  The statement is made in realtion to xbox working onlin on a closed network.  The "big revelation" is when xbox finds out that more profit can be made from an open network.

And even if that wasn\'t what Chrono meant.  I would say it myself.

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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2001, 07:26:28 PM »
exactly Troglodyte

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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2001, 07:38:42 PM »
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exactly Troglodyte


Why thank you good sir!  I was a little worried of my presumptions there for a moment.

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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2001, 07:58:32 PM »
1. Square and MS have both said they are in discussions. MS has strongly hinted they have big announcements concerning some big japanese developers that won\'t be announced until later in the year.

2.FFXI will be multiplatform.

3.While PlayOnline doesn\'t jive well with MS\'s online plans well, you will be able to use your own ISP on XB. It\'s not impossible for you to be able to use PO and play FFXI.

Now add all those facts up, with the assumption that MS knows FFXI could sell systems, it\'s not rocket science figuring out that FFXI is 99% likely to come out to XB. And only XB\'s online gaming network is closed. A browser isn\'t out of the question. they\'re keeping that stuff on the down low for now, and focusing on games... like Sony should be and Nintendo is.
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2001, 08:31:50 PM »
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I don\' t believe Square will ever develope on the GC.

Although Yamaguchi might retire soon, it doesn\'t matter.  The new head honcho will simply deny Square on board.  Square is in a direct conflict with Nintendo, and not with the old hag Yamaguchi himself.

The game FF XI will most likely be an mmorpg.  Those games require the use of ethernet and a harddrive.  Although Nintendo does have an online plan, they are frivolous and the chances of the ethernet and harddrive ever seeing the light of day on the system is pretty much slim to none.

Since the system caters to lil children, the chances of seeing a substantial amount of users going online will be relatively small considering Nintendo will not properly advertise, maintain, and put out the satisfactory effort to forego this venture.  Kids will not go online as a result and the majority will simply stick to their Marios and Pokemons and not FF XI online play.


Ahh, how you make unsupported assumptions. Square does not have a direct conflict with Nintendo; they might have had to grit their teeth with the N64\'s catridge format and Nintendo\'s loyalty fees in the past, but logic and profit prevails over everything in buisness. Oh, and in case you didn\'t know, a GC ehthernet has already been confirmed, photographed, and previewed on every publication ever since Spceworld 2000. Nintendo hasn\'t said anything about a hard drive yet, but seeing how both MS and Sony have both announced one, it\'d be foolish not to. I guess you\'ll just have to wait until SW 2001 for full disclosure on Nintendo\'s online plans.  

About the kiddy issue... well, it\'s pointless to explain that for the 1000th time. And honestly, neither of us would be right since none of us has a functioning crystal ball. We\'ll see which userbase the games (not the console design) appeal to after the GC\'s launch.

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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2001, 10:40:59 PM »
Let me rephrase what he said.

"Although discussions are underway, nothing has progress so don\'t expect any revelations anytime soon"

Um that was what I gathered.....

Regarding Nintendo\'s online venture.  It is no secret they are not taking the route seriously.  Nintendo has stated before that they are not interested in the online market.  Although it is a correct presumption that the ethernet might launch, it is also not far fetch to assume it won\'t considering Nintendo\'s frivolous approach towards this aspect of the market.  Remember the Dreamcast DVD drive was also "photograghed, confirmed, and previewed" at E3 2000.  We all know how that turned out.

Regardless, it will be no secret Nintendo will have the least userbase of the three even if the ethernet were to launch.  I doubt they will put out enough funds, effort, advertisement, and games to strongly push online gaming.  Thus, out of all the three, Nintendo will be the least attractive to put an FFXI online game on.

The kiddie debate has been beaten to death but I will still add my two cents using a tad bit of common sense.

-  The main and possibly only system will come in purple and has a handle.

-  Advertising will most likely be on Saturday morning cartoons, cereal boxes, and "kiddie" magazines.

-  The controller, with its vast array of huge, colorful buttons, is especially design with kids in mind.

-  One of the main reason why the system comes with a cartridge format is "to prevent little children from scratching it".

-  The vast majority of the games on the system that are the main draws are Pokemon, Mario, Luigi and such.  All games especially made to cater to lil children.

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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2001, 03:00:00 AM »
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- One of the main reason why the system comes with a cartridge format is "to prevent little children from scratching it".

This sentence proves you know nothing about Nintendo and should not be taken seriously when you are talking about Nintendo.  

My two cents on this:

FFXI will be on all consoles. Don\'t cry Sony fanboys. If FFXI does good on Xbox and NGC, then they\'ll continue to port their games over to make more money, and Square is simply a money grabbing company.

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« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2001, 06:29:57 AM »
Another important thing to consider is that Square wants you to buy a PS2.   The success of FFX goes hand-in-hand with how many PS2s have been sold and its costs them nothing to not specify the systems they are developing for.

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« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2001, 06:58:36 AM »
>"1. Square and MS have both said they are in discussions. MS has strongly hinted they have big announcements concerning some big japanese developers that won\'t be announced until later in the year.

2.FFXI will be multiplatform.

3.While PlayOnline doesn\'t jive well with MS\'s online plans well, you will be able to use your own ISP on XB. It\'s not impossible for you to be able to use PO and play FFXI.

Now add all those facts up"

LOL, those are facts?

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« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2001, 07:36:16 AM »
Tshirts... put more research into your "facts" in the near future.  That\'s about all I have to say...

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« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2001, 07:53:12 AM »
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LOL, those are facts?


They sure are. I don\'t know why that\'s funny... maybe you can\'t deal with said facts?
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« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2001, 08:02:28 AM »
>"They sure are. I don\'t know why that\'s funny... maybe you can\'t deal with said facts?"

Where would you have read these "facts"
Am I susposed to take your word on it?

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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2001, 08:30:09 AM »
Well, you should take my word for it, but heres what I dug up so far:

1-Still looking. It was a Gamespot interview with Ed Fries, but I\'m looking still...

2-Hironobu Sakaguchi, creator of the video games series and executive vice president of Square said to the LA Times:
That certainly is a possibility. In fact, executives at Square are very enthusiastic about Nintendo. Square is moving into online games. "Final Fantasy XI," which will be released next year, will be a fully online game. To make that work, you have to transcend hardware. If we want to do financially well online, we need to exist across all consoles. ( http://teamxbox.msxbox.com/news.php?id=1541 )

\'"Initially, of course, the game will be released for the Sony PlayStation 2 and the PC platform, but in order to gain as broad an audience as possible, we will release it across other consoles in the future." Sakaguchi told GameSpot. \' ( http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2781619,00.html )

3-MS has stated you can use your own ISP. It\'s such a generic proclamation, I can\'t remember where I read it. I am certain it was an MS official though. The rest of this one (it not being impossible to use PO) is a obvious given. MS will have open ended internet access, they said it just wasn\'t a priority (like DVD support), and wouldn\'t be available right away. If you can go online, you can use PO. It\'s common sense.
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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2001, 07:16:24 AM »
1-Sorry, I gave you the source, but I just can\'t find it. If you wanna dig through GS\'s archives, I won\'t stop ya ;) But I know what I read, and Fries strongly hinted they would be having some big announcements later this year involving the \'2 biggest Japanese developers that haven\'t been announced yet\'. The interviewer said  \'Square or Enix\' and Fries said somthing about he can\'t say yet, but they would make sense as 3rd party XB supporters. I don\'t see him saying things like that at E3 unless he\'s (at least negotiating) for both of them to be on XB.
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